by Dalbertlock
Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:54 am
I too have been scammed by the same person/people called Neale. These people were advertising a motor home on ‘Auto Trader’ and when I made enquiries regarding this motor home I was directed by a link to ‘Ebay.’ The link looked genuine. I was then instructed to pay £4,900 by bank wire transfer into their account by the name of C Cotovru at ‘Barclays Bank’ Regent Street London. Receiving Sort 207175
Receiving A/C 83868281. On hindsight if I acted on my gut instinct that the name was different to the first point of contact for the motor home I should have been more concerned. What follows are the emails that I received full of promises to deliver me a motor home.
My first email.
just read your advert about the motorhome,is it still for sale?
Advert Url: http://motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk/used ... sting=true
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:44:41 +0100
Subject: Re: A lead from Motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk (R470EOS ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME £4,900)
From: [email protected]
Hello,
Its still for sale. Immaculate condition, no damages, nothing to worry about. All necessary documents available. My current location is Scotland due to my work commitments,If this is going to be a quick sale, I will let it go for £4,900 delivered at my costs. Are you familiar to eBay? I will list the motorhome on eBay Motors for the £4,900 buy it now price and I will send you a link to my auction, so you can buy it immediate.
As soon as you will confirm the payment to eBay, I will proceed delivery without any additional costs for you.
In case you are not familiar with them, please read their Buyer Protection and will see that they cover 100% the transaction done through them up to £50,000. You will receive the motorhome with all the documents. As you know eBay is the best company of online transactions. If indeed interested in buying it and have the funds, I will list it on eBay, as I have a 100% positive feedback with them.
Please let me know your decision.
Thank you
Lisa
My Reply
Hello,yes i am still interested, but i have emailed other motorhomes and i cant remember what site i viewed yours, could you please remind me of the site you advertised.
From: [email protected]
autotrader.
My Reply
i have gone through 39 pages on ebay motorhomes, i have difficulty in locating it, any chance you could give me a link and make it a little easier for me to buy?
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 20:03:39 +0300
Subject: Re: A lead from Motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk (R470EOS ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME £4,900)
From: [email protected]
Its not listed yet. I will get it listed now.
My Reply
Ok
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 20:09:24 +0300
Subject: Re: A lead from Motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk (R470EOS ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME £4,900)
From: [email protected]
Done here is the listing:
1998 ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME
To secure it hit the buy it now button, fill your details and further informations will show up how to proceed.
Lisa
1998 ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME
My Reply
could you specify the problem regarding the 12 volt system and whether or not it effects anything
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 20:50:47 +0300
Subject: Re: A lead from Motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk (R470EOS ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME £4,900)
From: [email protected]
There was something little to change so the 12v can work nice and that was solved no worries about that
I solved the problem but forgot to edit description.
Lisa
My Reply
one last thing, is it manual or automatic?
I am definitely interested in buying. Not sure how we would make the payment, do you give me your account number and sort code so i transfer the money into your account or would you rather do it through ebay?
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 21:05:18 +0300
Subject: Re: A lead from Motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk (R470EOS ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME £4,900)
From: [email protected]
Manual.
Lisa
My Reply
I am definitely interested in buying. Not sure how we would make the payment, do you give me your account number and sort code so i transfer the money into your account or would you rather do it through ebay?
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 00:27:12 +0300
Subject: Re: A lead from Motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk (R470EOS ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME £4,900)
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
I prefer do to it with eBay you just have to get the listing secured, fill your details to get further informations.
Lisa
My Reply
hi,i thought we were going to pay through paypal,i also thought that this was the prefered option.
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 19:02:08 +0100
Subject: Re: A lead from Motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk (R470EOS ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME £4,900)
From: [email protected]
No paypal is not insured for this amount it has to be done by bank I hope thats ok.
Lisa
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 6:52 PM, lorraine lock <[email protected] wrote:
My Relpy
Hi,i wont be able too transfer funds untill Tuesday 2nd oct if this is ok for you.
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 19:44:15 +0100
Subject: Re: A lead from Motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk (R470EOS ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME £4,900)
From: [email protected]
Hi thanks for the update, eBay confirmed the payment I should be able to start delivery tomorrow morning for the weekend if its convenient, will keep you posted.
Lisa
My Reply
Hi Lisa, I have been at home all over the weekend awaiting delivery of the motorhome,have you dispatched it yet?
My Letter sent to Ebay
To [email protected]
I havent received the motorhome that i paid 4,900 pounds for, this was paid on the 2 october,ebay has said that they have no record of this transaction,the money was paid by bank wire transfer to Barclays bank regent street london,receiving beneficiarys name C COTOVRU account number 83868281 bank sort code 20 71 75,the seller has been an ebay member for six years,her email address is [email protected], could you please investigate this for me,the item number is 120513276341# invoice17sr5mf10#, the sellers address is Lisa Neale 32, arthurstone terrace, dundee dd46qt scotland,i was informed that this transaction was insured
Reply from Ebay
Hello, Seller is given a 48 hours notice from now to complete delivery otherwise you are eligible for a full refund. Thank you for being part of the eBay community. http://www.ebay.co.uk
Seller is given a 48 hours notice from now to complete delivery otherwise you are eligible for a full refund.
Thank you for being part of the eBay community.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/
______________________________
eBay
The World's Online Marketplace
My Reply
I have become rather anxious about our agreement to buy your motorhome, do you intend to deliver as promised? please dont say that you have deceived me
Ebay Invoice
eBay sent this message to………...
Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay.
eBay Buyer Protection Case ID: 17SR5MF10
eBay Motors member Lisa Neale, as the Seller, initiated a new transaction through eBay Buyer Protection program and registered ……….., as the Buyer.
We verified all the details of this transaction and we concluded that they are accurate and the transaction is approved. Please follow our instructions to complete the transaction safely. Your vehicle purchase is protected for up to £50,000.00 or the vehicle purchase price, whichever is lower.
Complete the transaction in 5 easy steps:
Buyer and Seller agree on the transaction terms and a selling price. Seller contacts eBay Customer Support with the transaction details;
eBay Customer Support accepts the transaction and offers purchase protection to the Buyer (if the transaction is declined, no further action is required from neither Buyer or Seller);
The Buyer receives an invoice and sends the payment to eBay Customer Support. After the payment is verified by eBay Customer Support, the Seller will initiate the shipping.
The Buyer receives the vehicle and has five (5) business days to inspect it. If it is as described and as agreed, the Buyer should accept the vehicle. If he refuses it, the Buyer must ship the vehicle back to the Seller expense;
After the inspection period is over (5 business days), the Buyer must contact eBay Customer Support with the result of the inspection. If the Buyer accepts the vehicle, the payment will be sent to the Seller within three (3) business days.
eBay Buyer Protection
Case ID: 17SR5MF10
Item titled: ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME
Item number: 120513276341
Amount Insured: £4,900.00
Seller Verified Profile
Registered e-mail address: [email protected]
Identity and Contact Information Verified.
Continues to meet strict Membership Criteria.
Committed to Dispute Resolution and Mediation.
Purchase Protection Coverage up to £50,000.00
eBay Buyer Protection Overview
Buy with confidence on eBay Motors! The eBay Buyer Protection program protects your vehicle purchase against fraud and material misrepresentation. This program is provided by eBay Motors for FREE on all eligible vehicle transactions completed on eBay Motors. There's no sign-up, opt-in, or registration necessary.
The following types of fraud and material misrepresentation are covered:
Paying for a vehicle and never receiving it;
Sending a deposit for a vehicle and never receiving the vehicle;
Paying for and receiving a vehicle:
That was a stolen vehicle at the time of the transaction;
With an undisclosed or unknown lien against its title;
Of a make and/or model that is different than what was described in the seller's listing;
Without receiving the title for that vehicle from the seller, if it is impossible for you to obtain a title from the appropriate Department of Motor Vehicles;
Whose title is subject to an undisclosed salvage, rebuilt, reconstructed, scrapped/destroyed, junk, lemon, manufacturer buyback, or water damage title brand at the time of the sale;
With a model year that is different than the model year described in the seller's listing;
With an odometer reading that is different than the odometer reading described in the seller's listing.
Your vehicle purchase is protected for up to £50,000.00 or the vehicle purchase price, whichever is lower. The program covers Cars, Trucks,Commercial Trucks, Motorhomes, Campers, Caravans, Motorcycles, ATVs, Go-Karts, Scooters, Mopeds, Personal Watercraft, Snowmobiles, Boats, Buses, Race Cars, Trailers.
I am astonished that Barclays have not monitored that their bank is being used as a means for trafficking proceeds of crime. I have emailed them and as instructed by them to put it in writing. This would be passed to their investigation team.
Perhaps if they don’t monitor these types of transactions they should be liable to repay all monies defrauded by their customers.
Receiving A/C 83868281. On hindsight if I acted on my gut instinct that the name was different to the first point of contact for the motor home I should have been more concerned. What follows are the emails that I received full of promises to deliver me a motor home.
My first email.
just read your advert about the motorhome,is it still for sale?
Advert Url: http://motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk/used ... sting=true
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:44:41 +0100
Subject: Re: A lead from Motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk (R470EOS ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME £4,900)
From: [email protected]
Hello,
Its still for sale. Immaculate condition, no damages, nothing to worry about. All necessary documents available. My current location is Scotland due to my work commitments,If this is going to be a quick sale, I will let it go for £4,900 delivered at my costs. Are you familiar to eBay? I will list the motorhome on eBay Motors for the £4,900 buy it now price and I will send you a link to my auction, so you can buy it immediate.
As soon as you will confirm the payment to eBay, I will proceed delivery without any additional costs for you.
In case you are not familiar with them, please read their Buyer Protection and will see that they cover 100% the transaction done through them up to £50,000. You will receive the motorhome with all the documents. As you know eBay is the best company of online transactions. If indeed interested in buying it and have the funds, I will list it on eBay, as I have a 100% positive feedback with them.
Please let me know your decision.
Thank you
Lisa
My Reply
Hello,yes i am still interested, but i have emailed other motorhomes and i cant remember what site i viewed yours, could you please remind me of the site you advertised.
From: [email protected]
autotrader.
My Reply
i have gone through 39 pages on ebay motorhomes, i have difficulty in locating it, any chance you could give me a link and make it a little easier for me to buy?
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 20:03:39 +0300
Subject: Re: A lead from Motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk (R470EOS ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME £4,900)
From: [email protected]
Its not listed yet. I will get it listed now.
My Reply
Ok
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 20:09:24 +0300
Subject: Re: A lead from Motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk (R470EOS ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME £4,900)
From: [email protected]
Done here is the listing:
1998 ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME
To secure it hit the buy it now button, fill your details and further informations will show up how to proceed.
Lisa
1998 ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME
My Reply
could you specify the problem regarding the 12 volt system and whether or not it effects anything
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 20:50:47 +0300
Subject: Re: A lead from Motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk (R470EOS ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME £4,900)
From: [email protected]
There was something little to change so the 12v can work nice and that was solved no worries about that
I solved the problem but forgot to edit description.Lisa
My Reply
one last thing, is it manual or automatic?
I am definitely interested in buying. Not sure how we would make the payment, do you give me your account number and sort code so i transfer the money into your account or would you rather do it through ebay?
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 21:05:18 +0300
Subject: Re: A lead from Motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk (R470EOS ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME £4,900)
From: [email protected]
Manual.
Lisa
My Reply
I am definitely interested in buying. Not sure how we would make the payment, do you give me your account number and sort code so i transfer the money into your account or would you rather do it through ebay?
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 00:27:12 +0300
Subject: Re: A lead from Motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk (R470EOS ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME £4,900)
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
I prefer do to it with eBay you just have to get the listing secured, fill your details to get further informations.
Lisa
My Reply
hi,i thought we were going to pay through paypal,i also thought that this was the prefered option.
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 19:02:08 +0100
Subject: Re: A lead from Motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk (R470EOS ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME £4,900)
From: [email protected]
No paypal is not insured for this amount it has to be done by bank I hope thats ok.
Lisa
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 6:52 PM, lorraine lock <[email protected] wrote:
My Relpy
Hi,i wont be able too transfer funds untill Tuesday 2nd oct if this is ok for you.
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 19:44:15 +0100
Subject: Re: A lead from Motorhomes.autotrader.co.uk (R470EOS ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME £4,900)
From: [email protected]
Hi thanks for the update, eBay confirmed the payment I should be able to start delivery tomorrow morning for the weekend if its convenient, will keep you posted.
Lisa
My Reply
Hi Lisa, I have been at home all over the weekend awaiting delivery of the motorhome,have you dispatched it yet?
My Letter sent to Ebay
To [email protected]
I havent received the motorhome that i paid 4,900 pounds for, this was paid on the 2 october,ebay has said that they have no record of this transaction,the money was paid by bank wire transfer to Barclays bank regent street london,receiving beneficiarys name C COTOVRU account number 83868281 bank sort code 20 71 75,the seller has been an ebay member for six years,her email address is [email protected], could you please investigate this for me,the item number is 120513276341# invoice17sr5mf10#, the sellers address is Lisa Neale 32, arthurstone terrace, dundee dd46qt scotland,i was informed that this transaction was insured
Reply from Ebay
Hello, Seller is given a 48 hours notice from now to complete delivery otherwise you are eligible for a full refund. Thank you for being part of the eBay community. http://www.ebay.co.uk
Seller is given a 48 hours notice from now to complete delivery otherwise you are eligible for a full refund.
Thank you for being part of the eBay community.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/
______________________________
eBay
The World's Online Marketplace
My Reply
I have become rather anxious about our agreement to buy your motorhome, do you intend to deliver as promised? please dont say that you have deceived me
Ebay Invoice
eBay sent this message to………...
Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay.
eBay Buyer Protection Case ID: 17SR5MF10
eBay Motors member Lisa Neale, as the Seller, initiated a new transaction through eBay Buyer Protection program and registered ……….., as the Buyer.
We verified all the details of this transaction and we concluded that they are accurate and the transaction is approved. Please follow our instructions to complete the transaction safely. Your vehicle purchase is protected for up to £50,000.00 or the vehicle purchase price, whichever is lower.
Complete the transaction in 5 easy steps:
Buyer and Seller agree on the transaction terms and a selling price. Seller contacts eBay Customer Support with the transaction details;
eBay Customer Support accepts the transaction and offers purchase protection to the Buyer (if the transaction is declined, no further action is required from neither Buyer or Seller);
The Buyer receives an invoice and sends the payment to eBay Customer Support. After the payment is verified by eBay Customer Support, the Seller will initiate the shipping.
The Buyer receives the vehicle and has five (5) business days to inspect it. If it is as described and as agreed, the Buyer should accept the vehicle. If he refuses it, the Buyer must ship the vehicle back to the Seller expense;
After the inspection period is over (5 business days), the Buyer must contact eBay Customer Support with the result of the inspection. If the Buyer accepts the vehicle, the payment will be sent to the Seller within three (3) business days.
eBay Buyer Protection
Case ID: 17SR5MF10
Item titled: ELDDIS AUTOSTRATUS CK MOTORHOME
Item number: 120513276341
Amount Insured: £4,900.00
Seller Verified Profile
Registered e-mail address: [email protected]
Identity and Contact Information Verified.
Continues to meet strict Membership Criteria.
Committed to Dispute Resolution and Mediation.
Purchase Protection Coverage up to £50,000.00
eBay Buyer Protection Overview
Buy with confidence on eBay Motors! The eBay Buyer Protection program protects your vehicle purchase against fraud and material misrepresentation. This program is provided by eBay Motors for FREE on all eligible vehicle transactions completed on eBay Motors. There's no sign-up, opt-in, or registration necessary.
The following types of fraud and material misrepresentation are covered:
Paying for a vehicle and never receiving it;
Sending a deposit for a vehicle and never receiving the vehicle;
Paying for and receiving a vehicle:
That was a stolen vehicle at the time of the transaction;
With an undisclosed or unknown lien against its title;
Of a make and/or model that is different than what was described in the seller's listing;
Without receiving the title for that vehicle from the seller, if it is impossible for you to obtain a title from the appropriate Department of Motor Vehicles;
Whose title is subject to an undisclosed salvage, rebuilt, reconstructed, scrapped/destroyed, junk, lemon, manufacturer buyback, or water damage title brand at the time of the sale;
With a model year that is different than the model year described in the seller's listing;
With an odometer reading that is different than the odometer reading described in the seller's listing.
Your vehicle purchase is protected for up to £50,000.00 or the vehicle purchase price, whichever is lower. The program covers Cars, Trucks,Commercial Trucks, Motorhomes, Campers, Caravans, Motorcycles, ATVs, Go-Karts, Scooters, Mopeds, Personal Watercraft, Snowmobiles, Boats, Buses, Race Cars, Trailers.
I am astonished that Barclays have not monitored that their bank is being used as a means for trafficking proceeds of crime. I have emailed them and as instructed by them to put it in writing. This would be passed to their investigation team.
Perhaps if they don’t monitor these types of transactions they should be liable to repay all monies defrauded by their customers.