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by Piotr Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:22 pm
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Hi Folks
Just faced first time in my life with proffesional scamers, but digging thru internet I foud thay do that quite a long time. So in case you have similar situation I do paste all emails below. That is about Audi A3 purchase:

Hello,

I appreciate their intention for my Audi A3 1.6, year 2002, last price 2300 eur. The car is in perfect condition and has German car number plates, I bought it from Germany and am the first owner. The reason why I want to sell it is that I bought a new Jeep so we do not need this car anymore, something about us, we are a nice retired couple (I am 63 and my wife is 61 years old), we live in the north of Dänmark (DK) in a beautiful place by the sea called Frederikshavn, region Nordjylland we also have a beautiful living space during our summer and winter holiday in Schöntal, and we have nothing else to do but spend only our money on travel, our most popular destinations are the Asian countries. If they opt for the car, we can arrange a short trip to Germany, so that we can meet and make the test ride. I'm sure. That we find a nice place in Germany where we can meet, that's enjoyable for us too, for Please tell us where you live so we can decide where we can meet. We have the trust that this is a good business!

Yours sincerely, Danish, Helfrid Merz
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Hello,

Thank you for your answer ,
The car is in perfect condition without any damage , has no technical (is the drive-in Procedure) problems, it has no dents or scratches. It has TÜV / ASU (active to 06/2014), all taxes are paid for Germany and all are registered in the service book.
We both are non smoking, in the car was never smoked.
I would like to inform that the car has number plates (German labels) .
As we have already told them we are currently in Denmark (the car is also in Frederikshavn) but we also can meet in a German region, where it would be beneficial for both of us. I would suggest we meet on 26.01.2013 ( Saturday ) in Magdeburg . Please tell me if you agree, so I can search a hotel room for me and my wife.

Greetings from Denmark!
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Hello Mr. Piotr , do not worry everything will be just fine , i will bring the summer tires and all car papers . I inform you about the meeting point: Hotel Stadtfeld ( Maxim Gorki Str. 31/37, 39108 Magdeburg ). I will arrive in Magdeburg on Friday and our meeting is on Saturday at 10:00 . This is a German mobile phone number which we use all the time in Germany : 015,778,478,590 , you can call us if you are late. I am ready to take part in our meeting but before that happens I must be sure that you will come and i do not go in vain 1400 km .... I think that you understand me , i must be sure that you will be in Magdeburg with the money for the car ,
This is what i have in mind --
My wife will go at the post office in our town and make a transfer of 1000 euro to my name with the destination Magdeburg --this is a proof for you that i will come in Magdeburg at our meeting.
The same thing i want from you , you can ask your wife or a good friend to go to the post office in your home town and make a transfer of 2300 € on your name with the destination Magdeburg. It is a money transfer from person to person , and the transfer is ready in a few minutes---this is the proof for me that they have the money and they will meet us!
Together we can go to the Post Bank in Magdeburg to pick up the money.
Sending € 2300 to Magdeburg you have to pay a tax between 110 - 140 €, because this is my condition i will support the transfer fees around 150 euro , so you will send 2300 minus the fees will be around 2150 Euro the price for the car !
Confirm that you agree with this and my wife will make a transfer to my name and then i will send you the scanned paper of the transfer ,
Without proof I can not make this trip to Germany.
Thank you and have a nice day ,
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Hello,
My wife has made the transfer to my name with western union , i sent the scanned document of the transfer (this is a proof that i will come at the meeting), and two pictures with me and my wife,
I had a bad experience with a buyer, i made a trip to Bielefeld and he did not appeared at the meeting, i think that you can understand why i made this proposal , i will also stay two days in Magdeburg so you can have time to test and inspect the car.
As i said your wife or a good friend can go at a western union office in your city and arrange a transfer of 2300 € on their name with the destination country Germany (this is a proof that you will come and you the have money) , it person is a transfer from person to person , the transfer will be completed in a few minutes and you do not need an account! Sending € 2300 you have to pay a fee of between 110 - € 140, you keep the transfer fee from the 2300 € and send rest of the (approximately 2150 € - and this will be the price for the car), we go together in Magdeburg at western union to collect our money transfer and if for some reason, you do not want the car, i pay them back all their costs for the ride, including the transfer fee.
I am waiting to see the scanned the paper of your transfer.
Thank you for understanding
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THAT IS ALL FAKE, BUT I DO WONDER WHERE SCAMERS TAKE PROFITS FROM IF I DO MADA WESTERN UNION FOR MY NAME? ANYONE CAN EXPLAIN ME? OR THE TRANSLATION (I DO BELIEVE IT IS NOT ORIGINAL TEXT) IS NOT PERFECT?
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by milantodoroo Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:28 am
I've heard about this type of fraud, but did not understand how fraudster take profits also.

I will describe a type of fraud that happened in Budapest:
We were sitting in the restaurant (friend and I) for lunch after several minutes next to us was seat other couple. Friend of mine bag is standing on a chair beside us in the direction towards the couple seated next to us. After a while, friend wanted to get something out of the bag and noticed it was gone.We asked the waiter if they noticed that someone approached and took the bag, and we asked couples who were seated at other tables if they saw someone took our bag. Nobody gave a positive response.Waiters directed us to the police because we are not able to find the bag. The police have told us that the bag probably stole couple sitting next to us. I think we should search all containers within a mile from the restaurant, we'll fastest way to find all documents of course without money. We looked for a long time, I can not specify precise time. We looked like most trash diggers. Literally when we wanted to give up, we said let's see one more - this trash and go. In the trash we found a bag in which there was nothing there except a few papers. Documents were located in the trash.

That was short story about fraudsters from Budapest, I hope that will help to someone. Fortunately for us, we found documents without problems (spent lots of time) and be able to continue travel.

With Kind Regards
Milan Todoroo

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