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by calmBeforeTheStorm Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:32 am
I haven't been scammed, but my grandmother is. She's sent tens of thousand of dollars that I know of. I also think they are using her to launder money. Because I've found western unions that she sends off. She's borrowed money from friends. She sold her car. It's ruined her marriage to my grandfather, because over the years it has developed from a regular scam to a love scam. The scammer turned her against my grandfather. I could list many more unfortunate things.

We've tried talking to her but she gets very angry and yells and says that we all need to butt out of her private business. She thinks we are jealous or trying to control her.

Its financially becoming unbearable. She barely ever leaves the house. She sits all day with yahoo mail open, waiting for a mail. The doctor told her to exercise after a surgery a few years ago. Her health has declined greatly very suddenly. She used to be very active in the church she managed a lot of things and was very accomplished.

I know that if my grandfather dies first then she will sell everything. The house as well. Because the scammer keeps telling her that he will come and take her to his mansion in England. She will be on the street. My mother was on the street for a while. That inheritance money is supposed to care for my mother.

I'm considering going to the courts and trying to get them to declare her incompetent, so she isn't allowed to spend money. I know that her fake boyfriend would leave her.

I've already told grandpa to cut the internet, but he doesn't want to make her madder. He's depressed.

Please give me some advice. Thoughts? This is tearing my family apart.
I'll try anything. We all feel so lost. I need a solution.
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by Bryon Williams Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:38 am
If you can post some of the details and emails of the scammer. We can try to research and provide proof it is a scam.

Once this is done. I am willing to call your grandmother as an outside party and inform her of the scam.

At this point do not direct her here just yet.

Post the scammers names, email addresses, phone numbers, pictures and a couple of his initial emails.

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by calmBeforeTheStorm Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:43 am
He claims to work for the Queen of England.

The initial email is long gone since it was from 2001. (yep.)

I hesitate to post anything because she doesn't share things with me. Every few years I find where she has written her password down and give them to my aunt who monitors her.
by Bryon Williams Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:50 am
Victims like this will be hard to get off the hook. If she is sending money she will realize it is a scam when she is broke. She can already see for the past 14 years he has not visited nor has she traveled to him.

If she is receiving money from other victims and forwarding then she'll learn when she is arrested.

I recommend directing your attention to your Grandfather.

Get him to seek legal advice.

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by calmBeforeTheStorm Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:55 am
My Grandfather already knows. He's known for many years.
He knows that she wants to divorce him.
He won't get legal help because he is scared.
I've tried looking up names on Pigbusters and similar sites, but is it possible that since this is so old that they haven't used these characters since before those sites were created.
I think I could get a copy of his fake UK driving license. Is there a way to check if that's real?
by calmBeforeTheStorm Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:57 am
The fake bank email domain has already been shut down a long time.

@republictrust-tt.net
by Bryon Williams Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:00 am
I have given you the best advice I can. You did say you were hesitate to post the details. With no information we can not do the research. I am sorry.

Bryon Williams wrote:If you can post some of the details and emails of the scammer. We can try to research and provide proof it is a scam.

Once this is done. I am willing to call your grandmother as an outside party and inform her of the scam.

At this point do not direct her here just yet.

Post the scammers names, email addresses, phone numbers, pictures and a couple of his initial emails.

Please contacta moferatorstor if you have a question or information about this post.



Please do not tell the scammer he is posted here.


Please remember the fallen. https://www.odmp.org/
by calmBeforeTheStorm Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:01 am
Me and my aunt want to try one last time to convince her and then get her declared incompetent if she won't listen.
Do you think that would work?
by Bryon Williams Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:07 am
You and your Aunt can not do that.

Only her husband. The other option would be a couple of Medical Doctors and a Judge.

You, your Aunt and Mother should seek legal advice.

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by Bryon Williams Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:16 am
The fake site republictrust-tt.net was reported by us in Oct 2012 it was operated by Nigerian scammers.

It had been floating around since 2008.

Hopefully, you will have some success.

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by Bryon Williams Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:31 am
This comment is my biggest fear for the OP. If money is being received in a joint account both grandparents are in jeopardy.

I also think they are using her to launder money.

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by tazmanian Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:53 am
Sorry to hear this very, very sad story. Everything Bryon said is correct. Without further details, it's impossible to offer extra help.You need to decide what to do next to help this situation.
by calmBeforeTheStorm Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:49 pm
What kind of lawyer would I go to?
Would it be expensive?
What would happen?

I just don't know if researching anything would do any good.
Because I just don't see how I would ever convince her.
I'm afraid she'll land herself in jail.

She is paranoid and thinks everyone is conspiring against her except for her beloved internet friends.

My Grandfather may never forgive me if I get her in trouble.
by Terminator5 Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:15 pm
You can also private message the details to someone and research can be done . These scammers usually have multiple victims on the hook . If research proved it was a scam, his details could be posted to an entirely new thread . hopefully warning other potential victims .

Daniel 8 :25
by AlanJones Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:49 pm
calmBeforeTheStorm wrote:What kind of lawyer would I go to?
Would it be expensive?
What would happen?


Find a local lawyer that offers a free initial consultation and explain everything to them and yes, it is likely to be expensive. As to what happens, only the lawyer can tell you that.

calmBeforeTheStorm wrote:I'm afraid she'll land herself in jail.


Unfortunately, this is a possibility (you will find threads in the news forum where money mules have been charged and imprisoned) - especially if she carries on laundering money. Fairly soon victims will start complaining and it will be her name that they pass to the authorities.

calmBeforeTheStorm wrote:My Grandfather may never forgive me if I get her in trouble.


She's already done that herself - she is committing a serious crime.

Please do not tell scammers that they are listed here - it will take them seconds to change their fake details and their new details will not be listed for any future victims to find.

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