digi-dt.com scam

I got this email from a guy saying that he brought something from me on ebay

Hello,

This is Grant Mitchell, I have bought an item from your ebay shop . I am recruiting a few people, from my recent customers with positive feedback, for a payment processing team in Australia. The average income would be around $1500 per mo. Drop me a line if you're interested and available 1 - 2 hours per day.

Grant

THEN THIS ONE

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Grant Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Bart, Digi-DT is a German electronics retailer http://www.digi-dt.com. I am part of their payments processing team, for the Australian orders that are paid by bank wire. The sales have increased lately, and we have to extend our team in order to handle all payments in time.
It is not very complicated actually. We are processing only the orders made by customers from Australia and NZ who are making their payments by local bank wire. First I am notified when they receive a new order (the amount and date of the payment, customer name, etc). and then the customer makes the payment to my account. After I receive the payment, I have to confirm the receipt so Digi-DT can proceed to shipping. I keep 7.5% of the amount received (my commission) and then I send the amount due to Digi-DT. After that I inform them that the payment has been processed successfully.
Of course, you will keep the entire commission for the orders that you will process. We only handle the processing of the payments. The orders are processed by Digi-DT directly, they handle the advertising, shipping, technical support, etc.
This is a brief description of the job, so you can decide if you would be capable of doing it. If you think you can handle it I can put you in touch with Robert Kaufman - the manager, for more details.


then his "boss" sent me this email:

Subject: Digi DT, partner


Dear Sir,

Our partner in Australia has formulated a request to provide you with our terms and conditions regarding the affiliate position that we
have available. At the moment we are working with two partners in Australia, but the recent sales increase requires a bigger team in order
to process all the payments in time.

You, as part of our affiliate team, will not need to offer customer assistance and support, thus we do not require that you have special
technical training. We will send you notification emails before receiving each payment. After each payment is received you will send us a
confirmation by email with the sender's name, and exact amount received so we can validate the order. You will keep your income directly
from the payments received and then send us the remaining amount. Your income will be in between 5.5% and 7.5% of the total amounts
received and processed, depending on your availability schedule and the processing duration. At the begining, there would be an average
of three orders weekly, that you will have to process.

If you consider that you can handle the job requirements in a timely manner, let me know a little about yourself (Name, Address, Phone number,
Age, Work Experience).

Respectfully,
Herr Robert Kaufman

General Manager
Digi-DT AG
http://www.digi-dt.com
Kaarster Strasse 150
41462 Neuss
Tel: +49 21 3154-9309
Germany

THEN THIS


Mr. *******

We have received your resume and you have been accepted by our personnel department. We do not require any references at this point.
For the next step there are two commission rates that you can choose from, depending on your schedule:

I. Normal Funding: you will process the payments (send us the funds received from our customers minus your commission) the same day
that you receive the payment.
Your commission is 7.5% and you will send us the amount due = 92.5% of the amount received.

II. Delayed Funding: you will process the payments on the next business day after the receipt of the payment.
Your commission is 5.5%. and in this case you will send us 94.5% of the amount received.

For all orders, you will process the payments only after the funds are AVAILABLE in your account for withdarwal. When the bank makes the funds available that means they have been verified, and are guaranteed by the bank. We do not accept checks or money orders from our customers.
All the payments are made by bank wire, and they arrive in the morning, so there is enough time for processing.

We suppport the processing fees involved, including the fee for sending the amounts due to us.

As I have stated before, you will retain your commission directly from payments. Below is an example indicating how is the commission calculated:
For example if you have chosen The Normal Funding schedule and you receive a payment of $3,000 you just keep the 7.5% commission, that
would be $225. Then you will have to withdraw the amount due, (92.5% of the payment), from your account, in this case $2,775 and send it to
us by Western Union. We support the Western Union sending fees.
Also, we will provide you the detailed calculation for each payment, with the amount due to us, and te value of your commission.

Our customers are making the payments by local bank wire to an Australian bank account. The first step is to open a new account
(personal bank account with any bank that you have locally), where you will receive the payments made by our customers.

We can start working with you within a few days after you confirm that you have an account ready to accept payments.

Our sales in Australia and New Zealand are constantly increasing, and for start we will assign you a maximum of 5 orders per week.
If you will manage to process our customers payments correctly and in a timely manner, we could assign you a higher number of orders.

Robert Kaufman
Digi-DT AG

here is the header info if this helps for one of his emails

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Just wanted to let the forum know, hope this helps

thanks
Bart

also the top right hand banner goes to a site called http://digitalinverters.net/
looks like that was his old site because some people also got emails from that site.

Hi Bart,

Im so happy you posted on this forum.

I received the exact same email from a person that i bought an item off ebay.

I was a bit sceptical that it was a hoax, but proceeded with interest.

I have just got to the stage of receiving an email from Robert Hauffman and thought i'd research if it was infact a scam before handing over my personal details such as name, address, etc.

The offer did look to good to be true, but at the same time it appeared genuine.

Hope no one falls for the scam.

Thanks again

Abaoof

No worries, yeah you got to watch out for shit like this on the net.
thanks
Bart

A friend of mine has also been contacted by this scammer....details are exactly the same as reported by Bart. What puzzles me is how do they intend to make money? The dialogue never got as far as requesting any payment...but I guess sooner or later the victim would be asked to make a setup payment or similar before 'business transactions' could commence.

Just curious...

[AlanJones]

The 'business transactions' would be by way of phished accounts into the victim's bank account and then the victim is asked to send the money (minus their wage) on to someone by Western Union. When the owner of the phished bank account notices the payment and complains to his bank, the money would be returned to him by debiting it from the victim's account. THe victim is therefore left down the money they sent via Western Union.

Thanks for the warning. My daughter received a similar email which referred to her by her name and the name of the product she purchased from ebay. The email went as follows:

This is Jason from Entertainment Warehouse, you have recently bought an item from us. I am recruiting a few people, from our recent customers for a payment processing team in Australia. The average income is around $1500 per month. Drop me a line if you're interested and available 1 - 2 hours per day.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
> Jason Smith

The next email:
I will explain further. Digi-HD is a German electronics retailer and I am part of their payments processing team, for the Australian orders that are paid by bank transfer. It is not very complicated actually. We are processing only the orders made by customers from Australia and NZ who are making their payments by local bank wire. First I am notified when they receive a new order (the amount and date of the payment, customer name, etc). and then the customer makes the payment to my account. After I receive the payment, I have to confirm the receipt so Digi-HD can proceed to shipping. I keep 7.5% of the amount received (my commission) and then I send the amount due to Digi-HD. After that I inform them that the payment has been processed successfully.
Of course, you will keep the entire commission for the orders that you will process. We only handle the processing of the payments. The orders are processed by Digi-HD directly, they handle the advertising, shipping, technical support, etc.
This is just a brief description of the job, so you can decide if you would be capable of doing it. There are two positions available, so if you think you can handle it I can put you in touch with Peter Schneider - the manager, for more details.

Jason

The next email:

I was wondering if you are still interested in working for Digi-HD? It's not a problem if you don't want to, just let me know as I have promised Peter that I will recommend a few people by next week. I would like to know eitherway, so I can ask somebody else if you are not interested..

Jason

I assume this is the exact same scam just using different names and a similar company name.

Ok I think I fell for the scam
I just went through the entire process with them and final email they sent me was this:

"

We have the confirmation from our customer, in regards to the payment for Order ID #110926 in the amount of $1943.00
The funds are available in your account for withdrawal. The amount due to us is $1797.00
The rest of $146 is your commission and you can either leave it in your account or withdraw it for your own needs.

In order to process the payment go to your bank and withdraw the amount due from your account: $1797 and then
go to a Western Union office and send the amount due to our supplier from Russia:
first name: ILYA
last name: LUPEY
city: Saint-Petersburg
country: Russia
adress: Voronezhskaya ul. 2A
postal code: 192007

All payments sent by Western Union to us must be made at a Western Union physical location. The transfer description is "Service".
If you have a debit card for your bank account, you can use it at the Western Union office instead of cash.

We support the Western Union fee from the amount due. So when you send the funds by Western Union, tell the W.U. teller that you want to send a total of $1797 including the Western Union fee, and he/she will calculate how much is the fee, and how much will actually be sent.

Please confirm the receipt of this email and then go to the bank in order to process the payment. After you have completed the payment processing let me know the following:

- MTCN# this will be provided by Western Union after you have made the payment
- Exact amount sent after the Western Union fees

ATTN: Pay attention when writing the Western Union transfer forms. If only one letter is missing or mistyped, the payment can not be delivered.

Peter Schneider
Digi-HD AG"

And I just checked my bank account and the money is in it... I created a new bank account just for this as this is what they advised me to do...

What do i do with the money?? Just wait till they claim it? or ask the bank what to do?

I obviously shouldn't withdraw it and send it to them as requested right??

[AlanJones]

Hi diana1811 and welcome to ScamWarners.

The money that has been transferred into your account will have been transferred from a stolen or phished bank account or paid in by a fake cheque (a method known as account flashing) and eventually it will be found to be fraudulent and deducted from your account.

What ever you do do not withdraw it and definitely don't sent them any money. If you do this you will be down the money you send and also could be facing charges for crimes such as money laundering (depending on where the funds came from).

The best thing to do is cut off all contact with the scammer - do not confront them as they will just deny everything and try to persuade you to send the money. As to what to do with the money, I would recommend that you print off all the emails that you have received and take them to the bank and tell them that you now believe the funds you have received to be fraudulent and ask for their advice what to do.

thank you AlanJones for getting back to me so quick... I feel stupid for falling for the scam
I will do exactly as you said and will go to the bank first thing in the morning.
Thank you, I appreciate your help.

Hi,

I have also been approached by these guys as well. Just wondering what the outcome was in this case. Did the bank say that it was fraudulent or were you approached by the scammers again?

Welcome to ScamWarners coffeeboy. It is a scam. The banking system will figure it out eventually.

The real issues is the person who deposited the check is the one who will be held accountable for the forgery and the funds they withdraw.

We don't always get the ongoing end of the story, but we have been through this with enough people to know what happens.

If you have a check from this scammer, do not deposit it. Do not use it to get any money for yourself. Do not send money to the scammer by Western Union. Take the check and the packaging it arrived in to your local police. At the very least, deface the check so you cannot be charged with posession of a forged banking document.

Legitimate businesses do not use Western Union as a means of receiving money. Western Union has warnings about using their services to send money to foreign countries or to people you do NOT know in person.

Hi coffeeboy,
I called the bank and explained the entire story to them and they requested I send all the emails to their fraud email, which I did. They put the account I opened on freeze and called me back 2 days later and explained that it was stolen money from someone's account and that the other bank had contacted them in order to retrieve the funds and that. My bank thanked me for my cooperation and returned the stolen funds to its owner.
In the meantime, i didnt want to email digi HD back and tell them what was going on, I just said that I will go to western union in a couple of days, to see how it would play out.
And guess what? I actually got a call from digi HD, from Mr Schneider's so called assistant. She had really poor english and an extremely strong Indian accent, although she claimed she was german and said a german name. She said Mr Schneider is waiting for his funds and would like to know why I am not committed to the job bla bla bla. I responded that I was 100% committed to the point that I have contacted the police and the internet fraud people and you are being investigated as we speak and hung up the phone. I must say. That made me feel better
Dont fall for their scam

Hi diana1811,
Thank you for returning to tell what the bank did with your situation. I take it you had not used any of the money and therefore did not have to repay the amount you spent or sent.

Thank you so much for sharing with us and keeping us informad.

Hey Guys,

Even I got this.

I realised this was some sort of a scam so I led them on.

I would recommend to report it to Ebay as well. If you receive an email regarding from Ebay, email Ebay on [email protected]

So they can investigate this too.
..........................................................................................................................

This was my last response to them. Haha. Not opening a bank account for these people lol !

Sent: Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:47
To: 'Digi-HD Germany'
Subject: RE: Referred by Chuen Ho

Hi Peter,

Thank You for the explanation.

Sound like a simple process.

As you would know in this day and age there are a lot of online frauds happening.

Would you please be able to give me some details of the business. Once I receive the info, I will proceed to open a bank account etc.

Any other details you want please feel free to contact me.

Kind Regards

From: Digi-HD Germany [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2012 8:54
To:
Subject: RE: Referred by Chuen Ho

Mr. ****,

At the beginning, we could assign you an average of three orders weekly for processing. We will send
you notification emails before receiving a payment. After each payment is received you will send us
a confirmation by email with the sender's name, and exact amount received thus we can validate the
order. You will retain your income directly from the payments received and then send us the amount due.
Your income will be in between 5.5% and 7.5% of the total amounts received and processed,
depending on the processing duration as described below:

I. Normal Funding: processing the payments (send us the funds received from our customers
minus your commission) the same day that you receive the payment. Your commission is 7.5%
and you will send us the amount due = 92.5% of the amount received.

II. Delayed Funding: processing the payments on the next business day after the receipt of
the payment. Your commission is 5.5%. and in this case you will send us 94.5% of the amount received.

For all orders, you will process the payments only after the funds are AVAILABLE in your account
for withdrawal. When the bank makes the funds available that means they have been verified, and
are guaranteed by the bank. We do not accept checks or money orders from our customers. All the
payments are made by bank wire, and they arrive in the morning, so there is enough time for processing.

As I have stated before, you will retain your commission directly from payments. For example if you have
chosen The Normal Funding schedule and you receive a payment of $2,000 you just keep the 7.5% commission,
that would be $150. Then you will have to withdraw the amount due (92.5% of the payment) from your
account, in this case $1,850 and send it to us by Western Union. We support the Western Union sending fees.
Also, we will provide you the detailed calculation for each payment, with the amount due to us, and the value
of your commission.

Our customers are making the payments by local bank wire to an Australian bank account. The first step is
to open a new account (personal bank account with any bank that you have locally), where you will receive
the payments made by our customers. We can start working with you within a few days after you confirm
that you have an account ready to accept payments.

Peter Schneider
Digi-HD AG


Hi Peter,

Chuen gave a some description of the job. Would you please be able to provide me the job description and what this entails and what I am required to do and I will then attach me resume with all the details.

Thanks


Kind Regards,


From: Digi-HD Germany [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 8:18



Dear Sir,
According to our main affiliate in Australia you are interested to fill one of the available positions.

In order to make an evaluation, please let me know a little bit about yourself: age, studies,
work experience, city of residence. Please include your contact telephone number as well.
We have a separate department for our customers assistance and support, therefore it is not required
that you have special technical training.

Respectfully,
Herr Peter Schneider

General Manager
Digi-HD AG
http://digi-hd.net/
Kaarster Strasse 150
41462 Neuss
Tel: +49 21 3154-9309
Germany