Is Simulation Computer a Scam? Im not sure

Donald Mark <[email protected]>
9:37 AM (1 hour ago)

to me
Dear Applicant

Your resume has been reviewed by our recruiting team based on the job ads posted on www.Indeed.com for the position of Data Entry Specialist that you are yet to occupy and we believe you would be capable of handling this position based on your resume. Your detail has been forwarded to the Human Resource Department and the Head of Operations Mrs Josephine Carrillo, would be conducting an interview with you to discuss the job detail, pay scale, benefit and briefing regarding the position in our company. The position is for immediate hire and interview has been scheduled.

You are to Set up a Screen name with yahoo Instant Messenger online at www.messenger.yahoo.com and add up the hiring manager's screen name: [email protected] to your yahoo messenger contact list. Email Address: [email protected]
She will be waiting to talk to you on yahoo messenger right away. Endeavor to get online ASAP.

Interview Time: 9:00am to 6:00pm EST.Monday-Friday.

I wish you the best of Luck with the Interview. If you have any questions, Please feel free to email Mrs Josephine Carrillo for more details.

Regards
Josephine Carrillo
Human Resource Department.

I go this message from indeed.com and never had a problem with this website before, i have tried looking up this company, the address is a real address and so far have not found anything that said it was a scam.

Complete scam.
Unfortunately, even legitimate job search sites are plagued by scammers, and the best screening is still not 100% effective.

NO legitimate company interviews and hires potential employees via instant messenger.

The atrocious English is another dead giveaway. A quick search shows an earlier version of their script, which has changed slightly, but not too much.

http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&p=129005

Could you please post the details you were given for the fake company, including the email and website if they gave you one?

interviewman: \
interviewman: Hello
interviewman: How are you doing....?
kxx: I am doing good, thank you. how are you?
interviewman: I am fine as well....
interviewman: Welcome to the company, i believe that you are here for the job briefing/interview. As we proceed further with the briefing and interview, you will get to know more about the opening position.....
kxx: Yes I am
interviewman: I am Mrs Josephine Carrillo, The Hiring manager to the firm (SIMULATION COMPUTER ) . am here to brief and interview you more about the opening position , Please introduce yourself indicating your Cell # and your location.....
kxx: I am <removed by dotti - it is important to safeguard your personal information>
interviewman: Ok
interviewman: Next would be the briefing about the Job and the company. I advise you read with care

Just follow the briefing and you can ask questions when i am through. Let me know when you have finished reading and understanding every line. You will be allowed to ask questions later.With each line just respond with an Okay......
kxx: okay
interviewman:

The positions which we have available here in SIMULATION COMPUTER are: Data Entry Clerk,Accounting Clerk,Administrative Assistant,Payroll, Medical biller, Bookkeeper, marketing sales, Bookkeeper, Officen Assistant, Customer services among these listed positions, which do you think will be a best suit for you ?
kxx: Medical Biller
interviewman: The Name of the company is SIMULATION COMPUTER is a service delivery company that provide radiation shielding solutions.The key to the company successes over the years has been based on integrity, innovation and insight.Our company is based on the belief that our customers' needs are of the utmost importance. Our entire team is committed to meeting those needs. As a result, a high percentage of our business is from repeat customers and referrals.We Specialises in computer and other electronic equipment re-cycling as part of its PC Support and Maintenance training for the unemployed.

Location:
700 Wilshire Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90017
interviewman: This is strictly an online and work from home job. The working hours are flexible where you could choose to work from anywhere of your choice. The pay is $35 per hour training is $25 per hour. Paycheck would be bi weekly via direct deposit or paycheck working 40 to 45 hours weekly, If you are employed you are going to be working as a full employee and not an independent contractor. Ok..?
kxx: ok
interviewman: Benefits: Health, Dental, Life and AD&D Insurance, Employee Wellness and 401k plans.Paid Time Off and Holidays with Generous Company Discounts .

Working hrs are flexible.All activities and corresponding time are to be recorded in excel spreadsheet. As for your duties, i will assist you with any difficulties by email....
kxx: ok
interviewman: DUTIES & RESPONSIBILITY:Tracks data and source documents.Prepares and sorts source documents, and identifies and interprets data to be entered.Compiles, sorts and verifies data for accuracy.Contacts responsible parties or clients from other organisation to resolve moderately complex questions, inconsistencies, or missing data. Also perform Records keeping, keyboarding/data entry and performing a variety of other office tasks account balancing, invoicing recording,proper data analysis of sales records and recording pay slips into accounting database all these will be done through the use of the Accounting Software, such as faxing or emailing confidently and positive attitude Online from home.

Can you handle All of these duties effectively?
kxx: yes
interviewman: The Supervisor, who would be attached to you online, He/She would assign logs of duty daily and you would be required to work according to instructions, using the Microsoft Office tools and the Accounting software. Now the function of the Accounting software is to arrange, formalize and manage the data you have processed, sent to your supervisor via E-mail.
kxx: ok
interviewman: You will undergo a one week training from your training supervisor, He/She will training you on how to work with the programs accurate and other Data entry works you will need to get done.Your training is going to be done online through your PC and PHONE .
kxx: ok
interviewman: You will Earn $35 per hour and training $25 traning hourYou will receive your pay via Direct deposit or Paycheck bi weekly.
interviewman: Are you currently employed?
kxx: yes
interviewman: How would you describe yourself?
kxx: I am honest, loyal, fast learner, caring, and a team player
interviewman: Do you have a printer,scanner,photocopier and Fax machine ?
kxx: no i don't, with the job i have right now, we were not allowed to use those machines at home because of confidentialty
interviewman: ok
interviewman: Do you have an idea of how to use ms excel?
kxx: yes i use that daily
interviewman: What do you understand by the term "Petty Cash" ?
kxx: its cash that the company has as back up and can use to borrow but needs to be paid back
interviewman: How do you see yourself fitting in as one of the company co-worker?
kxx: I feel I would probably fit in nicely.
interviewman: Very Good
interviewman: Do you know your typing speed?
kxx: no I never have been tested for the speed
interviewman: Oh okay....
interviewman: Give me 3 genuine and specific reasons why you should be hired by the company ?
kxx: fast worker, follow directions, recognize the importance of benefiting others as well as myself, i have the ability to work well with others
kxx: good communication skills
interviewman: Very Good,hope to see all that in you soon.
kxx:
interviewman: You will be paid Bi weekly !

What mean of payment would you prefer?Direct deposit or paycheck
kxx: if I were to get direct deposit, would you be sending documentation for me to fill out and send in
interviewman: Yes....
kxx: I do prefer direct deposit
interviewman: Ok
interviewman: Bonuses You will be enrolled for this benefits after a period of 2 months of working with us.We are going to be communicating through Yahoo! Messenger (IM) till after 7days of working with us, after then once we are done updating our website a user and pass to our website will be given to you including an up link to our server. Also after then list of contact phone numbers to various departments will be sent to you including all neccessary forms to fill out.

kxx: ok
interviewman: You will start work ASAP once you get your accounting software's working tool's from the vendor agent . Also your W-2 form will be coming along with your software's . Once you get everything from the vendor agent you are to sign on your W-2 form and have it e-mail to me for confirmation .
interviewman: Hhok
interviewman: Ok*
kxx: ok
interviewman: You will be needing some accounting software's for this job.

Here are the name's of the software's you will need to start working with Myob business essentials software 2013, US Patent Single Users Pack simply accounting 2013.
kxx: ok
interviewman: Before you start work you will recieve a payment you will be using this payment to set up your mini office by purchasing accounting software's plus the shippng logistics,cos we will be sending you some equipment you will be needing to start work with,immediately you get this payment you start work
kxx: ok
interviewman: The Head Dept of the company will issue you check to enable you purchase all the softwares you need to start work with.The check will cover all the equipment you will be needing to start work with
kxx: ok
interviewman: You are to start work immediately after training due to the rate of clients we have at hand
kxx: ok
interviewman: In the mean time i need you to provide me with these following informations to enable the company's secretary's department put you into register. Full names, state, city, address, zipcode and cell #
kxx: <removed by dotti - posting your details in this way will make you the target of more scams and spam.>
interviewman: Got it
kxx: ok
interviewman: You will start working this week as soon as you receive the software's needed to start working
kxx: ok
interviewman: And you will receive the check to purchase those software's this week as well,I will keep you updated on that
kxx: ok sounds good
interviewman: So you are needed to get online by 9am your time tomorrow morning for more update
kxx: ok
interviewman: And you will be working on your first TASK as well
kxx: ok
interviewman: So I believe you will be able to get online by 9am tomorrow morning?
kxx: yes
interviewman: Very Good
interviewman: That will be all for now,do have a nice day and stay bless
kxx: thank you
kxx: have a good day as well
interviewman: You are welcome
kxx: There is one question I forgot to ask, do you have a website I can look at?
interviewman: Yes but they are working on the site right now
kxx: ok np
interviewman: So once it up,I will let you know asap
kxx: ok thank you
interviewman: You are welcome
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Standard fake check scam.
The scammer plans to send you a fraudulent check, and instruct you to cash it and send the cash to someone they name, supposedly for the "software."

In reality, it is going to a mule for the scammers, where it will be forwarded to the scammers.

Later, when the bank discovers the fraud, you will be held accountable for the entire amount of the check, plus any bank charges, bounced checks, and possibly even costs for an attorney if you are arrested for check fraud.
The scammers, who have been using all fake details, will be nowhere to be found.

I also see that your username is your real name. I suggest you choose an alternative name (you can post a few options here) and I can change your name for you.

Thank you for the information I appreciate it.

Same scam jargon , different company name . For the Search Engines .

https://www.myedu.com/my-jobs/job/56337/


Begin scam Job Advert:


aigner computer world.

Administrative Assistants



Job Purpose

Administrative Assistants ensure the efficient day-to-day operation of the office, and support the work of management and other staff.

Primary Duties and Responsibilities

Administrative Assistants perform a wide range of duties including some or all of the following:

Reception

Answer general phone inquiries using a professional and courteous manner
Direct phone inquires to the appropriate staff members
Reply to general information requests with the accurate information
Greet clients/suppliers/visitors to the organization in a professional and friendly manner
Qualifications

Education

High School Diploma
Post secondary education in business, computers, or office management is an asset

Professional designation

None

Knowledge, skills and abilities

Proficiency in the use of computer programs for:

Word processing
Databases
Spreadsheets
Bookkeeping
E-mail
Internet

Proficiency in the use of office equipment:

Computer
Voice messaging systems
Photo copier

Experience

1-3 years experience in an office setting

Note: Many organizations use the position of administrative assistant as an entry point into the workforce for recent university and college graduates. This position will give the recent graduate an opportunity to learn general office procedures and will give them insight into the non-profit/ voluntary sector as a career choice. If this is an entry position for someone, you might want to consider incorporating exciting and challenging "growth tasks" and learning opportunities into their regular work responsibilities.

Working Conditions

Administrative Assistants work in an office environment.
Administrative Assistants usually work a standard work week.
Administrative Assistants may be required to work some overtime hours such as attending Board meetings.


End Scam Job Advert

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Company Description:

AIGNER COMPUTER WORLD is a service delivery company that provide radiation shielding solutions.The key to the company successes over the years has been based on integrity, innovation and insight.Our company is based on the belief that our customers' needs are of the utmost importance. Our entire team is committed to meeting those needs. As a result, a high percentage of our business is from repeat customers and referrals.We Specialises in computer and other electronic equipment re-cycling as part of its PC Support and Maintenance training for the unemployed. We would welcome the opportunity to earn your trust and deliver you the best service in the industry.

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A few victim posts here:

http://www.indeed.com/cmp/Aigner-Computer-World


Same scam Company different listing:

http://www.indeed.com/cmp/Aigner-Comput ... mpany#fd=1


See also posts here :

viewtopic.php?f=34&t=76278

First I received this email...

Dear applicant The Hiring Desk of Data Entry Solution is in Search of workers as your Resume has been Reviewed and Confirmed, we believe you have the required qualifications to proceed for this Online Interview.. This is a Medical Billing/Coding/Medical Data entry/Accounting Clerk. The starting pay is $24.7/hr for this Medical Biller/Coding / Medical Data entry /Insurance Claim Computation/ Accounting Clerk, you are also expected to come online through Yahoo Messenger during working hours I want you to setup a yahoo messenger and if you got one already use it, add Mrs Rachael Sand the Hiring Manager and IM her on this ID ([email protected]) asap for the interview/briefing and comprehensive job details.This is our first step to proceed further. she will be online waiting for you. Interview Schedule date/time is on Monday-Friday: 8am to 7pm..Keep your IM On so you can be reached Best regards Human Resources, Data Entry Solution

I copied & pasted some of the conversation I had with her today.
Sounds VERY familiar from what I have been seeing here


Primary duties: Your Primary duties include: Preparation of Balance sheets (Mini), account balancing,invoicing recording,proper data analysis of sales records and recording pay slips into accounting database all these will be done through the use of the Accounting Software.

Working hrs are flexible.All activities and corresponding time are to be recorded in excel spreadsheet You will Earn $25.75 per hour, You will receive your pay via Directdeposit/Paycheque weekly...That is what the company is going to pay you for a start...

And For any difficulties/verification before you start working or when you start working you can reach the company's Adm Dpt for your own personal confirmation and verification (425) 298-9985 Note...Call reference number is 4242, Like i said anytime you have to call them always remember your call reference number okay

?The company will provide you with a brand new HP laptop, scanner, printer, fax machine and a fast internet connection as all these softwares will be installed on your HP laptop and have it shipped to you via FedEx or the UPS overnight delivery along with all your training kits/manuals, Therefore you are needed to make purchase for a particular software called Time Tracker that will enables the company to know how many hours you have worked daily and also determined how much will become payable weekly the company will have you reimbursed for the order of the software programs, Is that clear and Do you know what a Time Tracker is? And..Here is the company's Vendor info you will send your payment of $352 Via Money Gram to the company's Vendor representative info


?And also after your Time Tracker purchase the company will send you the agreement letter that i will guild you on how to have it signed and send back to the company..

?sand_rachael:? Also the company's vendor will send you a payment invoice upon confirmation of your payment then they can have all your equipments installed and provide you with a fedex delivery confirmation for you to keep track on it.

?sand_rachael:? Is all that clear to you which i believe there should be a Money Gram outlet close to you?
?
Name... Adaline Williams
State..Florida
City...Sarasota
Zip code...34232
Country: USA11:54 AM
?sand_rachael:? And after sending the payment for your Time Tracker software you are to get back to me with the payment information so that i can have it forward to the company's Vendor for them to have all your working equipment installed and have them send to you Via fedEx next day air delivery Which i should be providing you with an invoice and tracking number to the delivery of your package after your payment is confirmed..


Yup...VERY familiar indeed

Thanks for posting this and updating the record . The more info posted online the harder it is for them to find a victim , I'll scrutinize and investigate some of the info you posted later tonight . Full Email Headers , Email Addresses , Messenger and Skype IDs , and telephone numbers are useful information to post .

I tried to find header info in the email can't find it..I did find this other email they sent me..

I JUST received this email...and I have NOT committed to sending ANY money to them...Interesting...

Welcome to Data Entry Solution! We are very happy to have you as part of our team. The staff here
is looking forward to helping you fill the management void we have had for some time.

Your organizational and strategic planning abilities are going to be put to good use as we
move into the new fiscal year, and we are eagerly anticipating the positive impact you are
going to have here.

Please let us know if we can be of any assistance, as many of us have moved here in the
last few years, and can offer suggestions on almost everything.

We are a very family friendly company, and look forward to when you get settled in.

Looking forward to working with you,

Once again, welcome to Data Entry Solution

Cindy Armstrong
Human Resources Manager

With this attached Letter:

DES Address : 720 4 AVE
Suite 522Kirkland, WA 98033 USA
http://www.dataentrysolution.com

425 298 9985

EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT LETTER

Date 11/13/2013

Dear (my name was there)

We are pleased to confirm you're being employed by our firm in the capacity of Data Entry Specialist. You will report directly to Roger Maxwell, commencing with your start of employment ASAP.

Your salary shall be $25.75 per hour and training is $18 per hour, you will also be covered by the standard group benefit plans & fringe benefits, which will be explained to you by your attached supervisor. For the first year vacation time shall be pro-rated, so you will be entitled to 21 Working day's vacation for this year.

If you do agree, please sign the enclosed copy & return for our files to
[email protected] we look forward to your joining our company.

_____________________________

Employee's Signature

You can find instructions on extracting a full email header here :

http://whatismyipaddress.com/find-headers

Copy and paste the header into notepad and than edit out your email address . Than you can copy and paste here .

And your correct , never send money in connection with an employment offer . Any mention of you sending money or buying something from a certain vendor = Fraud .

Just found this out too


DES Address : 720 4 AVE
Suite 522Kirkland, WA 98033 USA
http://www.dataentrysolution.com

425 298 9985

It needs to be noted that the website above is being impersonated by the scammers, and the phone # given belongs to the scammers as well, not the real business

here is the header info: FROM JOB OFFER EMAIL:

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From: Data Entry Solution <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Subject: POSITION CONFIRMED!!!
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The header shows that the email comes from India.

Thank you for your assistance..

I knew it was too good to be true and thought to investigate..

I truly feel sorry for those people out there that do NOT do their due diligence for themselves...

I also have emailed indeed.com where the job was posted.

Again, thank you