Company Representative scams, Payment Processing scams and other Employment scams.
by Librascythe Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:14 pm
Yeah that was what I pretty much figured as well.

At the start I wanted to see their end game was and it sounds like that type of ebay scam is the goal.

And now I have a new one emailing me about packaging job lol.

Once I get their company name i'll make a new post since I like this site to make sure that other won't get scammed by them.

I think I have a couple other ones as well if I can dig them up.
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by Bryon Williams Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:18 pm
Each new/different scammer need its own thread.

Post the emails sent to you minus your personal information.

Also post any website you may be directed to.

Please contacta moferatorstor if you have a question or information about this post.



Please do not tell the scammer he is posted here.


Please remember the fallen. https://www.odmp.org/
by Librascythe Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:33 pm
Well just an update.
Monday was another "start" date, was told I would be getting a call which never happened.
Only wanted to get a call to see who would be answering, and how they would respond to any probing question I had.
Never gotten an email back from my last reply to them.

Not really expecting a reply back normally scammer won't when you bring up questions that cannot answer without being suspicious.

Hope people search them and come across this site, I really dislike scammers.
by vonpaso xlura Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:22 pm
Librascythe, please post the email from the scam domain with complete headers. We cannot kill an email-only domain without headers.

If you got emails from different domains, and those domains are owned by scammers, include the headers when posting them too.

... ni los estafadores heredarán el reino de Dios. 1 Cor. 6:10
by Librascythe Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:08 pm
Message ID <[email protected]>
Created at: Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 5:48 PM (Delivered after 280 seconds)
From: "Watts, Terry (Promena Sales)" <[email protected]>
To: ******
Subject: ****, your Promena supervisor here!
SPF: PASS with IP 45.76.10.199 Learn more
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From: "Watts, Terry (Promena Sales)" <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
To: *****
Subject: ****, your Promena supervisor here!
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Hello, ****!


Hope you're having a good day!

We're back on track with the regular working schedule, and I truly apprecia=
te your patience, I know you're eager to start and so are we!

As you already know, my name is Terry Watts, I am your supervisor and trai=
ner for the probation period with Promena. I'm hear to cover you
when needed and to help you develop the necessary set of skills to be succe=
ssful within the company and your career here. FYI, there is lots
of room for growth within the company and your probation period will give y=
ou a kickstart towards your further development with the company.=20

Now, I would like to thank you for submitting your paperwork, I am asusming=
you've discussed all the work-related issues with the HR but let
me know if there is anything you are still not clear about 'technically' - =
I'll see if I can be of any help.=20
I would like to point out the basics once again:
- your schedule is flexible within the 8am-8pm time frame, and this is your=
local time, be it EST, PST etc.=20
- your very first payment is a 160 or 80 paid hours and is due closer to th=
e end of the probation period HOWEVER
- once you move from theory to practice you'll be able to earn commission i=
nstantly. Your commission can be as high as $300 every 3-4 days,
so be sure to dedicate yourself to our 'practical' working routine.=20
- you are expected to work from a spot of your preference, home office for =
instance; you're expected to communicate with me on daily
basis.=20
- it is an absolute requirement that you notify me of any vacations, sick l=
eaves etc as ahead of time as possible so that I do not end up with
a busy work schedule for you in vain.=20

Most of my agents will inquire about taxes - your taxation paperwork will b=
e mailed to you along with the direct deposit forms and other company
paperwork closer to the end of the probation period, because this is when t=
he HR department wants to get you enrolled into automatic payroll, process
your web panel access information etc.=20

As a part of your commission-earning routine you will be dealing with billi=
ng procedures, and will therefore require an account of your choice to use
during the probation period. Please note that we are not requesting any sen=
sitive information, but since you will be dealing with customer invoices an=
d payments
it is required that you provide a Paypal or a bank account of your choice. =
If you do not have one, we will reimburse up to $75 for establishing a new =
account.



Please get back to me with:

1. Best date/time to start our training.=20
2. Best contact number and time as I will be calling to introduce myself pe=
rsonally.
3. Confirmation of your understanding of the above written.



Terry Watts
Supervising Sales Manager
Promena=20
US Department
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<span style=3D" font-family:'Courier New'; font-size: 9pt;">Hello, *****!<=
br>
<br>
<br>
Hope you're having a good day!<br>
<br>
We're back on track with the regular working schedule, and I truly apprecia=
te your patience, I know you're eager to start and so are we!<br>
<br>
As you already &nbsp;know, my name is Terry Watts, I am your supervisor and=
trainer for the probation period with Promena. I'm hear to cover you<br>
when needed and to help you develop the necessary set of skills to be succe=
ssful within the company and your career here. FYI, there is lots<br>
of room for growth within the company and your probation period will give y=
ou a kickstart towards your further development with the company. <br>
<br>
Now, I would like to thank you for submitting your paperwork, I am asusming=
you've discussed all the work-related issues with the HR but let<br>
me know if there is anything you are still not clear about 'technically' - =
I'll see if I can be of any help. <br>
I would like to point out the basics once again:<br>
- your schedule is flexible within the 8am-8pm time frame, and this is your=
local time, be it EST, PST etc. <br>
- your very first payment is a 160 or 80 paid hours and is due closer to th=
e end of the probation period HOWEVER<br>
- once you move from theory to practice you'll be able to earn commission i=
nstantly. Your commission can be as high as $300 every 3-4 days,<br>
so be sure to dedicate yourself to our 'practical' working routine. <br>
- you are expected to work from a spot of your preference, home office for =
instance; you're expected to communicate with me on daily<br>
basis. <br>
- it is an absolute requirement that you notify me of any vacations, sick l=
eaves etc as ahead of time as possible so that I do not end up with<br>
a busy work schedule for you in vain. <br>
<br>
Most of my agents will inquire about taxes - your taxation paperwork will b=
e mailed to you along with the direct deposit forms and other company<br>
paperwork closer to the end of the probation period, because this is when t=
he HR department wants to get you enrolled into automatic payroll, process<=
br>
your web panel access information etc. <br>
<br>
As a part of your commission-earning routine you will be dealing with billi=
ng procedures, and will therefore require an account of <b>your choice</b> =
to use<br>
during the probation period. Please note that we are <b>not </b>requesting =
any sensitive information, but since you will be dealing with customer invo=
ices and payments<br>
it is required that you provide a Paypal or a bank account of your choice. =
If you do not have one, we will reimburse up to $75 for establishing a new =
account.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Please get back to me with:<br>
<br>
1. Best date/time to start our training. <br>
2. Best contact number and time as I will be calling to introduce myself pe=
rsonally.<br>
3. Confirmation of your understanding of the above written.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Terry Watts<br>
Supervising Sales Manager<br>
Promena <br>
US Department</body></html>
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Okay I hope I got what you needed, this is the second contact info. I'll post the first one next.
by Librascythe Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:11 pm
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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:01:13 -0400
From: Career Management Response <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
To: ******
Subject: ATTN all candidates
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Good day, ******!


NB To all candidates who applied/ were hired on and after July 21st! Due to=
outsourcing procedures, the Starting Date for all the new positions is Aug=
ust 23rd, 2017.=20
Please respond confirming this starting date works for you, otherwise pleas=
e respond with an alternate later date of your choice. The company's Human =
Resources department is=20
expanding and is therefore being restructured in a way to provide most favo=
rable employee experience.=20

Feel free to submit your paperwork in the meantime, however be prepared to =
receive delayed responses until August 23rd.=20



Now, to respond to your questions:=20
This is a virtual position for candidates residing within the US. Our headq=
uarters is indeed located in Turkey, and we do plan to open several offices=
on both costs of the US by the end of 2017,=20
however at this time we are primarily interested in virtual offices develop=
ment as this keeps expenses low and salaries high.=20
The pay schedule is listed below the job description, but let me explain th=
is here once again. For the first month of training you receive a flatrate =
paycheck of 160 paid hours (or 80 should you choose part-time).=20
After this month you're enrolled into an automatic payroll, the web panel y=
ou'll use for work will count hours and you'll receive your paycheck every =
two weeks.=20
You receive PAYPAL commission payments every time there is a deal you close=
and these commissions are paid outside the pay schedule.=20






Have a good day!

Jacob Barragan
Recruiting Manager
Promena US
(206)-338-0797

[email protected] ATTN: Jacob Barragan or Jane Salinas
[email protected] for financial inquiries only=20
by vonpaso xlura Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:11 pm
Could you post the message you sent, to which the above is the reply, with complete headers? The scammer is using different servers to send and to receive mail.

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