Company Representative scams, Payment Processing scams and other Employment scams.
by 5mg3 Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:56 am
Guys,

You are right to be wary!

Do NOT send this company your details!!

I sent my details because I was in need of a job/money and always fancied getting into forex trading. I received the exact same correspondence as above. This morning I started my "training".

I received two transactions into my current account of £498.95 and £389.65. I was then instructed to withdraw this money and send on to next trainee member via Western Union, or Money Gram. I enquired about doing this online, however they dismissed this and said it MUST be done in store. This flagged another warning signal to me.

So, I went to the bank and spoke to the manager regarding this and fortunately it had already been flagged by the specialist security team at the bank and my account was frozen and it was under investigation.

Basically, what they are doing is stealing money from someones account and depositing it in your account, then instructing you to transfer the money to them via WU, or MG so that its no longer traceable and you are the one that is accountable!

Tricky bastards! :evil: Sending the bank ALL the info and correspondence I have from them..Hope they get caught!
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by vonpaso xlura Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:58 pm
Please also post the emails here, with headers. If there's a website or domain being used for this fraud, it needs to be killed, and we need the emails as evidence to kill it. Also, the next possible victim may search for the new company or website name; if you post it here, they'll find it.

... ni los estafadores heredarán el reino de Dios. 1 Cor. 6:10
by salamander7 Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:17 pm
it is a scam. They don't take your money, but use you to transfer illegal money, once you have transferred the money you will never hear from them again. Your bank will find out and most likely close your bank account, so stay well clear of anything that sounds like this as they do use different names from time to time.
by marteenas Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:49 am
Another SCAMMERS SCAM CHEATERS ILLEGAL MONEY domain: crowtherinvest.com http://www.crowtherinvest.com
I think they just use this girls name, but lets disclose it, it's Gloria D. Hawkins

the phone no. some girl used to call me, as a training manager, or something like that, was: +442032860966

I did not answer the managers call, they did not transfer the money to me, and my bank account was not suspended and frozen. Thanks to this forum :)

some quotations:

Title: Finance Officer
Ages: 18+
Salary: FULL TIME - £20400/bonus; PART TIME - £15100/bonus

Personal Attributes:
* Able to priorities workload.
* Time management skills.
* Accurate and good attention to detail;
* Team player.

Candidates must also be available to start immediately.

We offer:
* Opportunities to progress and develop;
* Good basic salary;
* Absolutely free - study in UK with a trainer, computer tests, practice.


If you are looking for the next step in your career which will allow you to have an immediate impact and offer exposure and progression to further development, please contact me find out more about the opportunity.


and the original email looks like this:
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Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 14:48:04 +0000
From: "Gloria D. Hawkins" <[email protected]>
Organization: Crowther Investment Corporation
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by rose1989 Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:12 am
I received the exact same message, was silly enough to ask for more info but i never sent them my bank details!
by Dotti Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:57 am
Welcome Marteenas and Rose!

I'm glad you avoided this scam!

Looks like the scammers have a shiny new fake website for their scam.
Domain Name: CROWTHERINVEST.COM
Registrar: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDE
Whois Server: whois.melbourneit.com
Referral URL: http://www.melbourneit.com
Name Server: YNS1.YAHOO.COM
Name Server: YNS2.YAHOO.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 10-aug-2012
Creation Date: 10-aug-2012
Expiration Date: 10-aug-2013


The information and email posted will help our site killers in their efforts to get the scammers' website taken down.

Need to post photos? http://scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3219
Are you a victim of a romance scam? Read here for advice and FAQ's.
by Mike Wilson Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:34 am
http://www.crowtherinvest.com is in the process of being reported for fraud.

It is ALWAYS a scam
If the pet seller or shipper asks for money to be sent via Western Union, Money Gram, any brand of gift card. Walmart To Walmart , Zelle , PayPal friends and family option, or mentions Cameroon
by quickandsmart Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:35 pm
I have been scammed....I got carried away, since I am desperate for a job.

EMAIL I RECEIVED:-

__________quote___________
"Harper Finance LTD

Account Manager - UK

Salary: FULL TIME - £20000
PART TIME - £15200

Skills and experience:

- A detailed approach
- The ability to liaise with all levels in the business
- The ability to work to deadlines
- The ability to work on own initiative
- Team Player



In return you will receive a competitive basic salary, personal commission scheme,
training program in UK, personal trainer support, plus other large company benefits.

If you are interested in this role, please contact us NOW!!!


HR Manager
Angela T. Ray
Harper Finance LTD"
____________unquote______________

Thank GOD, it is the first day I supposed to receive money, but did not receive and the GIRL told me wait till tomorrow. That made me curious and I searched the web with all the possible key words including the telephone number - Guess what? the telephone number brought me to this site.

Straight away I have called and left a message to them saying do not send money and told them that they are scammers. On top of that called them again and spoke to the GIrl and told her not to send me money as they are scammers. Further I have send emails, warning not send money. I hope I am out of it - but the girl told me they have instructed to send money - I guess that is there usual BS.

Please someone advise me what to do? Should I wait and forget about it or should I inform any authority? I guess I am doing right thing by letting this community know that they are still out there.
by Dotti Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:59 pm
Welcome quickandsmart!

It sounds as if you did give your bank account information to the scammers.
At this point, the most important thing to do is to contact the fraud department of your bank, and alert them to what has happened. They may want to see the emails from the thieves, so make sure you save them. The bank may be able to block the incoming transactions, preventing future headaches, or they may even want to change your account number. Since you have not participated in the scheme, you have done nothing wrong, you are just being proactive.

Need to post photos? http://scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3219
Are you a victim of a romance scam? Read here for advice and FAQ's.
by vonpaso xlura Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:44 pm
Crowther is dead.

... ni los estafadores heredarán el reino de Dios. 1 Cor. 6:10
by kr01 Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:14 pm
Hello all,
I wish I found this page before I sent my details off, normally I would be suspicious but seeing as I have applied for a lot of jobs. The same people or copycats are now operating under the name of http://www.ortonfinance.com . Please be weary of dealing with them. The serious fraud office have been contacted. Thank you all and good luck
by Mike Wilson Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:25 pm
Hello kr01 and thnaks for posting.

Please post the email with the header. The email information is need so the site can be taken down.

Edit to add additional site with the same content.


http://owentradinginc.com/
http://butlergc.com
http://stbconsultinggroup.com/
http://langstonfinance.com/

It is ALWAYS a scam
If the pet seller or shipper asks for money to be sent via Western Union, Money Gram, any brand of gift card. Walmart To Walmart , Zelle , PayPal friends and family option, or mentions Cameroon
by jxd812 Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:46 am
This company has now changed. It's currently calling itself Watkins Capital Group.
Unfortunately, not being able to find anything scam related under the company name, I thought it was legit so I signed the contract and gave them my bank details. I've contacted my bank who informs me that they cannot withdraw anything from my account with only the sort code and account number. They require my card number for this, which is entirely different. I'm still worried though.


http://watkinscapitalgroup.com/index.php?q=index
From Laura M. Turner Mon Aug 27 10:24:26 2012
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:24:26 +0000
From: "Laura M. Turner" <[email protected]>
Organization: Watkins Capital Group
To: Joseph Davey <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Subject: Training manual - Tuesday, 28, August 2012
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by vonpaso xlura Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:09 am
Thanks for the header! Could you post the body? Also post the headers and body of the email you sent to Watkins, to which the above is the reply. Please remove your own name and address; you don't need to post the attachment.

... ni los estafadores heredarán el reino de Dios. 1 Cor. 6:10
by Scouser Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:44 pm
My girl received an email from Laura M. Turner from the HR Department of Watkins Capital Group.

Dont know why I Googled it but glad I did now. Perhaps it was because the job just seems to be to good.

Anyway, It will be going no further and no info will be sent

Thanks all

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