Company Representative scams, Payment Processing scams and other Employment scams.
by DanielA Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:47 am
No problem, have contacted totaljobs.com by e-mail and eventually by phone. They've looked at this thread, and taken a forwarded copy of the e-mail off me and are dealing with the matter with utmost urgency. Hopefully we will have stopped them before they've ruined someone's life...
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by Ralph Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:43 am
Unfortunately having the scammers adds removed will only be a minor inconvenience to the scammer, it may possibly prevent somebody from being scammed but the scammer will have a new add and possibly new ID up and running in no time at all.

In some ways it can actually make it easier for the scammer as his new adds and details may not be picked up by searches like they were for you.
by DanielA Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:22 am
You mean adds as in address? Shouldn't be a problem, key thing is totaljobs.com are on the case. They said that whoever it was couldn't have had access to their database of CV's as its private information for recruiters who have signed up for their service. So I have no idea how they got our info, but the fact their website was mentioned is certainly proof that they had access in some form, whether they hacked their way in or an employee sold the information illegally.

The bit that annoys me is I set up a new e-mail account last year to get rid of all the spam I was getting, now they have that address, along with my home and mobile telephone numbers and home address *sigh*. I now expect a huge torrent of marketing calls for double glazing over the next few weeks, fun....
by Dotti Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:18 pm
What Ralph is saying is that very little will happen. Unfortunately, the "screening" performed by most job sites of the recruiters that post on them is minimal to none. Most likely the scammers simply signed up as recruiters using fake information and paid with a stolen credit card. The job site may figure out which account belongs to the scammers (eventually they do anyway when the stolen CC comes to light). Then what most sites do is close the scammer account, maybe block the email the scammer signed up with, and maybe monitor for identical jobs (some job sites don't even bother to do this). If the scammer has found this site profitable, he will simply open a new recruiter account using new fake details and credit card, and he will start again, changing the company name and a few details. If the site was not profitable, he will move to another job recruiting site. If he actually has a stolen or purchased mailing list (which is definitely possible, but the less likely scenario since scammers tend to keep things simple), there is nothing the job site will be able to do except post warnings and maybe email members.

What Ralph meant about searches is that if the scammer signs up again using new fake details, the next potential victim won't find them in Google because they are brand new, while if the scammer continued to use the same details, a Google search would lead them here.

Note totaljobs disclaimer in the terms and services:

totaljobs.com services

Services and information provided on the site by us and our third party suppliers are intended to assist in the job seeking or recruitment process. Neither we nor our third party suppliers can guarantee their suitability or prospects of success in any particular case. You should obtain independent verification before relying on information provided on the site in circumstances which may result in loss or damage.

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by krishna2k15 Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:42 pm
Hello

I received an email too. I am so glad that I did research into this before I fell into this scam. SO a BIG THANK YOU for the posts on here guys. There was a similar one I got a few months back about mystery shopping and they were basically after bank details saying that they would put money into your account etc, Luckily I did research into that too and didnt fall for it.
by Dotti Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:42 pm
I'm glad to hear you avoided being scammed. Remember, if you are suspicious of a future offer, and it is not posted here, feel free to ask, as scammers change names, emails, and scripts all the time, and it's possible you will get a new one before it is listed here!

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by krishna2k15 Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:33 pm
thanks again... i notice they always change their email addresses, another one known to be scamming is the HM Revenue & Customs one. I have lost count on how many of them I receive too. I just hope that nobody falls for these horrible scams.
by RaverBabyEffie Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:29 am
I recieved this email the other day. But I was critical of it because it sounded too good to be true. So I looked it uo and came across this forum. I'm so glad I did... :!:

I also recieved another email earlier today.

Hello !

My name is Daniel Brian and I am the Senior HR manager for WTI Company. I have just found your e-email at one of the job resource and I am sure that you would be interested in the new job vacancies at WTI Company:

Vacant position: Supply Department Agent .

As one of the world's leading producers of highly absorbent and customized airlaid, WTIs objective remains solid: to be the most important airlaid production company in the world. We invest in our people and our technologies, support and fund industry research around the world, and consistently deliver quality, competitively priced products to our customers.

We are looking for energetic, hardworking and responsible individuals to supervise orders from our clients.

Minimum qualifications include:
• Well developed analytical and interpersonal skills
• Top notch communication and writing skills
• Strong operational background and knowledge

The duties include:
• Analyzing the market
• Gathering information about firms in your region
• Controlling and monitoring the cargo deliveries from our customers
• Processing weekly payments for orders
• Maintaining your own salary records

The positions involve a lot of independence, responsibility and attentiveness.

If you are interested, please reply to : [email protected]

--
Sincerely,
Senior HR manager, Daniel Brian.


It was sent to my email address that I only use for important things and applying for jobs. And now I don't know which emails to trust! How do I go about reporting these emails? Should I tell the police? :(

Thanks for this thread!!! :mrgreen:
by Ralph Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:35 pm
Hi RaverBabyEffie, welcome to Scamwarners.

Thank you for your post,I am glad that we have been able to help you avoid being scammed.

As far as reporting the emails, besides posting the details on line ethere is little else you can do that will actually make any difference.

Having the emails account of the scammer reported and shut down will mean the scammer quickly and easily opens a new email address that we dont have any details for so that may actually help the scammer in some ways.

Reporting it to the police will have no real outcome either, police edont have the time or resources to deal with scams and even if they did the emails are almost certainly sent from Africa where they have no jurisdiction.

The best way to help prevent people from being scammed is to discuss it with family and friends and make as many people as possible aware of the problem, smply by sharing your story you can save others from being scammed.
by joemagowan Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:55 am
Hi guys,

Thanks to your forum I didn't get sucked in - I have also reported the scammers to the consumer direct report line in case that helps at all.

Thanks again -

Here is the email

Hello,

We have reviewed your resume on Totaljobs and would like to consider you for the position of administrative assistant/sales support. You'll work at the convenience of your home, part-time.

EPS, a luxury goods company, presents the best off-season luxury finds from the most prestigious international designers and collectibles from the rarest collections at irresistible prices.

Candidates for the job should possess excellent organizational skills as well as the ability to efficiently multi-task. Ideal candidates have a strong focus on day-to-day operational excellence, and a personal style that builds trust, and inspires loyalty. The candidate should be motivated, proactive, be able to learn and adapt quickly.

Other duties of the Administrative Assistant/Sales Support include, but are not limited to:

• Incorporating effective priorities for the virtual office function
• Administer day-to-day financial responsibilities for clients
• Reporting online daily
• Preparing brief summary reports, and weekly financial reports

Salary part-time: 1,800GBP/month, plus commission.

In the attachments you will find the agreement with a detailed job description. If you are interested in this trial period, which will last for one month, during which you will receive training, salary, and commission, please see the attached agreement. Upon successful completion of the trial period you will receive a contract to continue working with EPS, have an option to change from part-time to full-time or continue working part-time.

Please read carefully the trial period agreement, complete, sign, and forward back to us either via email [email protected] or by fax 1-714-276-1463.

If you have any questions please email to: [email protected].

Thank You,
Paula Hill
EPS Team
by ash Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:57 pm
Hello,

yup as above I too got this email. Thankfully I saw this thread before I did anything about it. However, I rarely reply to job emails if I have not applied, there seems to be a lot of this sort of thing going on.
Have reported it to totaljobs and consumer direct so far.

Thanks :wink:
by tracker Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:45 pm
It's not only Australians, I got sent it today, and like one of the others has said, it's bad enough being unemployed and to possibly have to fork out loads for a scam. Luckily this thread was available for me too or I could have been had. Thanks to all who have blogged about it.
by DanielA Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:06 pm
us neither Tracker, totaljobs.com seems to be the current target atm, is that where your's claims to be from?
by Dotti Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:50 pm
Welcome! It's always good to see new members who found this site and avoided being scammed!

It's typical to see a format spread like this. Scammers will try a new format, and if they are successful with it, they will branch out and try to find more victims--so while this particular format seems to have started with Australian sites, the scammers using it (or others copying the format) started branching out to new job search sites. Although this exact format has not yet been reported, we see similar scams targeting other major job sites such as monster.com here in the US.

Over time the script will continue to change. The general premise will remain the same, but company names, parts of the text, and email addresses will vary.

Remembering these key points will help you to avoid many of the job scams out there:
-Be very wary of job offers that come too easily (e.g. by email, without a hiring process)
- No legitimate company will ask you to send any money to anyone via Western Union or Moneygram
-Any job offer that requires you to open a bank account, provide your bank account information, cash checks, or deposit money into your account as part of your job is a scam!
-travel agents and other 3rd parties cannot arrange visas/passports for you. In order to get a passport and/or visa, you personally have to visit your local oassport office and/or consulate.
-Do not share information that could compromise your identity (e.g. drivers license/passport number, social security number) with potential employers unless they have been very thoroughly checked out. (In general, a legitimate employer will not ask for this kind of information until after they have personally met and interviewed you, and either have extended or are near extending an offer).
-Never scan and email your identification!
-Legitimate companies do not use free email addresses for official business.
-If in doubt, check it out! Google the company, check their website registration (less than a year old is a BIG red flag), stop here and ask--we're always willing to help you sort it out!
by mattikake Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:06 pm
Hi,

I'd just like to report for the benefit of other people searching the web before sending off their personal details to a scammer, that the exact "EPS a luxury goods company" using the same fax number 1-714-276-1463... also appears to be spamming from email address: rake Padilla ([email protected]) as I just got the exact email as above.

Many thanks to your site for logging such stuff. :)

I can't highlight enough the point of always doing a search on 'tinternet when you get some offer that seems too good to be true. There's always some decent places that report/discuss/track these things. You can find info out from a company name, an email address, an account name, even a telephone or fax number. Search engines are superb for this and it only takes a few mintues.

NEVER give out your personal details willy nilly. Just like if someone rang you up pretending to be a shop asking for your credit card details, you wouldn't be so daft to hand them out, you would always ring the shop first so you know the person on the other end of the line is much more likely to be genuine. The same goes for a job application!

l8ers,

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