[email protected] ELM jobs/ELT jobs

thanks for your reply.
was thinking it probably was, was confused as as it wasn't addressed to me either, totally random email address at the top. Definitely will be more careful about these emails.

Hi there,
I just got a mail from this person this week and figured it had to be a scam so I looked it up and your fantastic community popped up. I am posting the following things so that we can keep track of this person. I also did send a reply before I looked things up to inquire more about the job so when I get that email I shall post it as well. Thanks for being around, you have saved me a few times.

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Hello=2CWe have looked through your resume on Totaljobs and would like =
to consider you for the vacancy of administrative assistant/sales suppo=
rt. You'll work at the convenience of your home=2C part-time.ELM=2C a lux=
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he most high-status international designers and collectibles from the r=
arest collections at irresistible prices.Candidates for the job should ha=
ve excellent managerial skills plus the ability to efficiently perform =
multiple tasks. Perfect candidates have a firm focus on usual operational=
excellence=2C and a personal style that builds trust=2C and inspires r=
eliability. The applicant have to be motivated=2C proactive=2C be able=
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ting effectual priorities for the virtual office job=95 Manage everyday =
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Thank you for posting..

I received the exact emails as you guys.. I almost fell for it. Good thing I checked on google first. It is horrible what they are doing.

It was too good to be true. I have been a victim of something like this around 2008. I received a check and my bank account has accepted the check. I have a credit score so I was able to withdraw my 10%. After 2 days, I received a phone call. The guy was saying that if I give them 500 pounds in advance (because they need the money asap) they will give me more checks, more checks means more money.

I was waiting for the whole check too go through first before I could send the money to them. I told them I do wish I have 500 pounds but I don't. After a week the check bounced and I went overdrawn. I gave the police all the copy of emails that I have received from them plus my cellphone to check where the call is coming from but the police wasn't able to do anything about it. Why is that?

Welcome to ScamWarners ssmetham.

I'm sorry to hear that you lost some money from this scam, but it is a good thing that you realised from your research that it was a scam before you lost much more.

The scammer is probably in a different country to you, and using a false name, with an email address set up with fake information, and a disposable phone number, probably also registered with false information - so very difficult, and maybe impossible, to track down.

But even if that was possible, your own country's police force are likely to be unable to do anything about a criminal breaking the law in another country.

Nonetheless, this scamming activity will now be on record, giving your country a clearer picture of how people are targets of this type of crime. So it was not a wasted report, but one that may be of statistical use in the future.

Welcome ssmetham,

I'm glad you were able to avoid being scammed again. The truth is, there is no such thing as a legitimate job at home sending or processing payments using your own bank account. Whether the job involves printing checks, cashing checks, or receiving and forwarding Western Union, credit card payments, or bank transfers, it is a scam! In addition, any legitimate job that involves handling valuable merchandise (i.e. reshipping) is not going to be offered without a real application, interview, reference check, and/or credit check--no legitimate company is going to trust a perfect stranger not to steal!

As to why the police couldn't do anything the last time, it is probably because of how these scams work. If you received the check from someone in your country, that person was likely another victim, either a romance scam victim or a job scam victim who thought that he/she was printing and sending payments for a legitimate company. If the police tracked that person, they would have discovered it was part of this larger scam, and the trail would lead to Africa or Malaysia, well outside of their jurisdiction. At this point, the police would be unable to proceed any further.

I replied to the first email from a gmail account:

> Thank you for your generous offer.
>
> If you'd like your scam email to sound more convincing, I have a suggestion.
>
> Purchase a domain name and have a website which recipients may
> visit in order for you to appear legitimate. You could also have an
> email address @your domain name, which obviously works better than a
> hotmail or gmail account (which screams 'HOAX').
>
> I own and operate Removed website address - Ralph and I can provide these
> services to you at a very reasonable price should you wish to run a
> lawful operation. Please visit it to see what is possible and get in
> touch via the email form on the site if you are interested.
>
> I appreciate initiative and enjoy nurturing the type of
> entrepreneurialism that you have extended to me. I would be happy to
> give you a 10% discount on any purchases you make (with payment made
> in advance in your case- no offence intended)
>
> Warmest regards
>
> Removed member name

and all they did was send me the contract. I can handle them trying to scam me, but I object to the fact that they don't read an email I took some time to compose! Still, at least it was well written unlike most of the ones in broken English I receive.

Hi Andy and welcome to Scamwarners

While I understand your intentions, we would prefer if you didn't reply to scammers without some knowledge on how to do so safely and without teaching the scammer about how to make his scam more believable.

Trust me, they are good enough at scamming without you making it that bit easier for them by giving scamming tips. If you are interested in deliberately communicating with scammers, take a look at www.419eater.com where they can teach you some tricks to ensure you stay safe, ruin scammer's lives and have some fun in the process

I want to thank everyone for sending in the headers, they really helped us build a case. The domain elm-job.com has been suspended . Thank you all for your assistance!

Hi Michael, the domain may be down but they are still sending the e-mails. I've received the mail today 22/6/2010

Hi tedmeister16, welcome to Scamwarners.

Could you please post the header and content of that email, it should be a huge help in making sure the site is closed.

If you need help in finding the header please let us know which email provider you use (gmail/hotmail/yahoo/outlook) and we can give you specific instructions

Received similar email this morning and thought it was suspicious.
Here is the email:
Position available - id I524Y?
From: Wenona Fugler ([email protected])
Sent: 22 June 2010 10:55:22
To: [email protected]

Hi,

We have looked through your CV on Totaljobs and would like to try you for the position of administrative assistant/sales support. You'll work at the convenience of your home, part-time.

ELM, a luxury goods business, offers the best off-season luxury finds from the most high-status international designers and collectibles from the rarest collections at irresistible prices.

Candidates for the job should possess excellent organizational skills as well as the ability to successfully perform multiple tasks. Ideal candidates have a firm focus on everyday operational excellence, and a personal style that builds trust, and gains loyalty. The candidate have to be motivated, practical, be able to learn and adapt quickly.

Other responsibilities of the Administrative Assistant/Sales Support contain, but are not limited to:

• Incorporating efficient priorities for the virtual office function
• Manage everyday financial tasks for customers
• Give a report online every day
• Preparing brief summary reports, and weekly financial reports

Salary part-time: 1,800GBP/month, plus expenses.

In the attachments you will find the contract with a complete job explanation. If you are interested in this trial period, which will last for one month, during which you will receive guidance, salary, and commission, please see the attached agreement. After successful completion of the test period you will receive a contract to keep on working with ELM, have an option to change from part-time to full-time or continue working part-time.

Please read carefully the trial period agreement, fill in, sign, and send back to us either by email [email protected] or by fax 1-949-271-5605.

If you have any questions please email to: [email protected].

Have a happy day,
Laura Jenkins
ELM Team

And here is the header:

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Hi We have looked through your CV on Totaljobs and would like to try you for the position of administrative assistant/sales support. You'll work at the convenience of your home=2C part-time.ELM=2C a luxury goods business offers the best off-season luxury finds from the most high-status international designers and collectibles from the rarest collections at irresistible prices.Candidates for the job should possess excellent organizational skills as well as the ability to successfully perform multiple tasks. Ideal candidates have a firm focus on everyday operational excellence and a personal style that builds trust and gains loyalty. The candidate have to be motivated practical be able to learn and adapt quickly.Other responsibilities of the Administrative Assistant/Sales Support contain but are not limited to: Incorporating efficient priorities for the virtual office function Manage everyday financial tasks for customers Give a report online every day Preparing brief summary reports and weekly financial reportsSalary part-time: 800GBP/month plus expenses.In the attachments you will find the contract with a complete job explanation. If you are interested in this trial period which will last for one month during which you will receive guidance salary and commission please see the attached agreement. After successful completion of the test period you will receive a contract to keep on working with ELM have an option to change from part-time to full-time or continue working part-time.Please read carefully the trial period agreement fill in sign and send back to us either by email [email protected] or by fax 1-949-271-5605.If you have any questions please email to: [email protected] a happy day

Laura Jenkins
ELM Team

Tidied for clarity and to help with searches - Ralph

Hi Wawan, welcome to Scamwarners.

Just to be sure, the first thing I need to make sure is the "To" email address, if that is your email address please edit it out as soon as possible.

It is not a good idea at all to identify yourself here in public

Thanks for posting the email from this scammer, if you have any questions, please ask

Hi

I have also recieved this email thought it was a scam and googled it and came across this thread.

Hi,

We have looked through your CV on Totaljobs and want to try you for the vacancy of administrative assistant/sales support. You'll work at the convenience of your home, part-time.

ELM, a luxury goods company, offers great off-season luxury finds from the most high-status international designers and collectibles from the rarest collections at irresistible prices.

Applicant for the job should have outstanding managerial skills plus the ability to effectively perform multiple tasks. Perfect candidates have a firm focus on daily operational excellence, and a individual manner that builds trust, and gains reliability. The applicant have to be motivated, practical, be able to study and adapt quickly.

Other functions of the Administrative Assistant/Sales Support contain, but are not limited to:

• Incorporating effectual priorities for the virtual office job
• Manage daily financial tasks for customers
• Give a report online every day
• Preparing brief summary reports, and weekly financial reports

Wage part-time: 1,800GBP/month, plus expenses.

In the attachments you will find the contract with a full job explanation. If you are interested in this test period, which will last for only month, during which you will be given instructions, wages, and commission, please see the attached agreement. After successful finishing of the test period you will be given a contract to keep on working with ELM, have an choice to change from part-time to full-time or keep on working part-time.

Please read carefully the test period agreement, fill in, sign, and send back to us either via email [email protected] or via fax 1-949-271-5605.

If you have any questions please email to: [email protected].

Sincerely yours,
Laura Jenkins
ELM Team

and the headers for you if they are of any use

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Great Site very helpful glad i googled them now

Rhian

Fixed quote tags and removed domain key from header - Ralph

The first thing to note about the job offer is that it never describes what you'll actually be doing.

Of course, if they specified that you'd be cashing counterfeit cheques through your bank account it wouldn't get too many replies as it's not hard to work out who'll benefit financially from that arrangement, and who will end up in deep trouble.

The mail from the scammer is well written and could easily attract people looking for work. The trick the scammer is using is to obtain your agreement before you know what you're agreeing to.

There is no such thing as a job that involves receiving cheques for a company. The thing you have to be able to spot is when a job offer is going to turn out to be just another scammer trying to trick you into passing counterfeit cheques for him.

It's worth doing some research before you respond to any job offer to avoid wasting your time.

"#@!?!é&&

I had a feeling that this one would come back . I'll investigate asap to confirm it being alive again and then I can get back to business. Thanks for notifying me and for the headers

I recieved an e-mail from this person 2 weeks ago and she sent me the agreement i thought it was all legit so i sent her my bank details and other details she was asking for. I dont know what made me google it but when i did it came up elm job scam. I'm at my wits end now i dont know what to do. Whoever these people are they have my bank details and my address details, date of birth everything!! the only thing is the address i live at now isnt the address on my bank account and i have give them my current address not the one that is on my account. would that make a difference? there isnt alot in my account maybe £20.00 but thats not the point they have my bank details for whenever my money does go into it.

What do i do??

Lx