Company Representative scams, Payment Processing scams and other Employment scams.
by Dotti Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:28 pm
VX was absolutely right. Visadesk is a legitimate site.

Well, but they encourage me to confirm the cost there. To confirm it, I have to register there and after registration surely I'll be directed to someone from this agency. At least there is a high risk that I'll be paying to this agency instead of scammers.


I just went to the site, clicked on H-3 visa, and saw the information below without signing up for anything.

PRICE
Regular Process
Legal Fee - $1,390
Filing Fee - $320
Premium Process
Legal Fee - $1,390
Filing Fee - $1,320
Processing Time
4 business days


Besides, don't you think visa processing rates of this agency are incredibly high and they are not competitive in normal way? more than 4 K$ per visa isn't it crazy?

Visadesk does not charge more than 4K per visa. The scammers have taken visadesk's prices, and added their own fake fees. Scammers do this all the time. They aren't concerned about reality--they are merely concerned about getting as much money as possible out of their victims. They frequently target people who are desperate to get away from their own country for one reason or another, and who will spend every penny they can get hold of on the (fake) opportunity.

VX is also right about the African English. There is a good chance the scammers are not located anywhere near the US. This is important because if both the scammers and the victims are located outside of the US, the US government is not going to attempt to intervene in any way as it is out of their jurisdiction. Both cellphone numbers trace to companies that provide special VOIP services that are targeted toward people who travel internationally.

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by Alex W Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:59 am
vonpaso xlura wrote:us-uneceonline.org is in the process of being reported for fraud. The outgoing mailserver of this message is mailhostbox, which is the domain's mailserver, so no need for headers both ways.


The scammers go on writing to me anxious to get the money. If necessary I can provide more message headers.

I think they will be writing even more now, because I replied to them, that I already had contacted Visa Desk, as they advised, and waiting for a proforma invoice from this Agency to immediately pay. :D
by vonpaso xlura Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:01 am
The forecast is for a thunderstorm. It may come today.

... ni los estafadores heredarán el reino de Dios. 1 Cor. 6:10
by HillBilly Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:08 am
here is another site you can compare other prices with..... I think an i-130 (similar to an i-129) I did for someone cost me in the $100 neighborhood.

http://www.uscis.gov/working-united-sta ... ge-visitor

But in all honesty, the Gov't site is very hard to get good answers from, at least for me.

the fact is, you are better off getting a visa at an embassy or consulate of the country you want to visit near your home. Chances are good there is one reasonably close, and if you do it yourself, your money can't be stolen from you.

by Alex W Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:30 am
HillBilly wrote:here is another site you can compare other prices with..... I think an i-130 (similar to an i-129) I did for someone cost me in the $100 neighborhood.

http://www.uscis.gov/working-united-sta ... ge-visitor

But in all honesty, the Gov't site is very hard to get good answers from, at least for me.

the fact is, you are better off getting a visa at an embassy or consulate of the country you want to visit near your home. Chances are good there is one reasonably close, and if you do it yourself, your money can't be stolen from you.


Yes, actually even price of 1710 per visa at Visa Desk seem to me absolutely non-realistic. Sure in my country I could've got legal assistance of same quality at much lower price. In my experience the maximum cost of visa processing we paid is 250 US$.
by Alex W Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:40 am
Dotti wrote:VX was absolutely right. Visadesk is a legitimate site.


Looks like you're absolutely right. The scammers are so anxious to stop me from paying to Visa Desk...
:D

-------- Пересылаемое сообщение --------
14.08.2015, 18:02, "UNECE eVacancy Services" <[email protected]>:

Dear .....,

I saw your mail just at our closing time today and decided to respond back
to you immediately so that you do not make costly mistakes about the
processing of your H-3 visa.

According to the rules of UNECE as it relates to H-3 processing,we
organize same together with Messers VISA DESK AND DING TING.We do not
encourage our new entrants to deal with them directly because they would
not be able to process and get the visa released for them without getting
back to us.

Therefore,I will advise that you follow our own process by filling the
forms I sent to you and sending them back to me,contact Mr. Stevenson for
the account details and make the payment.Any other way chosen by you is
NOT acceptable as our staff.

I have also forwarded this your mail to Mrs. Lidia Bratanova and by the
time they resume in NYC,I am sure she would also communicate to you about
this.

I hope you understand the position as stated above which is in your best
interest.

Regards,

Dr. Adjei
>  On August 14, 2015 at 2:13 PM

<[email protected]> wrote:
>  Dear Dr. Adjei,
>  I haven't paid yet. I just registered with visa desk, as you had
requested and they appointed a specialist to assist me. He has to
contact me shortly to give payment instructions.
So we are on the way to start process.
>  Thank you for your concern.
>  Kind regards
> ............
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by HillBilly Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:42 am
Alex W wrote:Yes, actually even price of 1710 per visa at Visa Desk seem to me absolutely non-realistic. Sure in my country I could've got legal assistance of same quality at much lower price. In my experience the maximum cost of visa processing we paid is 250 US$.


It really depends on the type of Visa what the final cost will be. Some require as many as 7 to 10 additional forms (and their associated fees). I paid close to or in excess of $1000 to bring someone here on an i-130 J class Visa. The cost of processing of most of these forms nearly doubled about 4 years ago.

by Alex W Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:46 am
HillBilly wrote:It really depends on the type of Visa what the final cost will be. Some require as many as 7 to 10 additional forms (and their associated fees). I paid close to or in excess of $1000 to bring someone here on an i-130 J class Visa. The cost of processing of most of these forms nearly doubled about 4 years ago.


I guess, that's US specificity. Visas to Europe're obviously easier and cheaper to get. As for the US, I believe it would be wiser to create problems to illegal immigration rather than to legal visitors... But this is out of the topic.
Last edited by Alex W on Fri Aug 14, 2015 9:00 am, edited 2 times in total.
by Alex W Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:56 am
Just in case, I provide the header of the above funny message. :D

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Dear ............,

I saw your mail just at our closing time today and decided to respond back
to you immediately so that you do not make costly mistakes about the
processing of your H-3 visa.

According to the rules of UNECE as it relates to H-3 processing,we
organize same together with Messers VISA DESK AND DING TING.We do not
encourage our new entrants to deal with them directly because they would
not be able to process and get the visa released for them without getting
back to us.

Therefore,I will advise that you follow our own process by filling the
forms I sent to you and sending them back to me,contact Mr. Stevenson for
the account details and make the payment.Any other way chosen by you is
NOT acceptable as our staff.

I have also forwarded this your mail to Mrs. Lidia Bratanova and by the
time they resume in NYC,I am sure she would also communicate to you about
this.

I hope you understand the position as stated above which is in your best
interest.

Regards,

Dr. Adjei
>
> On August 14, 2015 at 2:13 PM
[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Dr. Adjei,
> I haven't paid yet. I just registered with visa desk, as you had
requested and they appointed a specialist to assist me. He has to
contact me shortly to give payment instructions
> So we are on the way to start process.
> Thank you for your concern.
> Kind regards
>
>
>
by vonpaso xlura Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:35 am
The domain us-uneceonline.org has suffered a direct lightning strike. :D

... ni los estafadores heredarán el reino de Dios. 1 Cor. 6:10
by Alex W Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:52 am
vonpaso xlura wrote:The domain us-uneceonline.org has suffered a direct lightning strike. :D


The climate over there is not good. :=) I'm becoming an admirer of your weather forecasts! :mrgreen:
The poor dudes already had informed me about this incident even before you did.They still strongly believe they will enjoy my money and promised to fix the consequences of this calamity soon.

Show must go on (Freddie Mercury) :beer:
by Alex W Fri Aug 14, 2015 12:31 pm
Lidia is such a sympathetic, caring personality.... I don't know why elements of the Nature are so cruel to her. :)

-------- Пересылаемое сообщение--------
14.08.2015, 22:22, "Lidia Bratanova" <[email protected]>:

Dear .....,

The alternative email ID of Mr. Henry Stevenson of our accounts department at the Beijing office is [email protected]. You may wish to write to him now demanding for the payment invoice and bank account nominated details for the payment of your H-3 visa using the PREMIUM PROCESS METHOD.

Meanwhile,I am happy to inform you that the Engineers has promised us that they would configure a temporary official email ID for all our correspondences for the next 2 weeks to enable them have some enough time to sort out a permanent solution to our email glitch issues which have become embarrassing to all.

As soon as we have the temporary official email IDs,I shall notify you before the close of work today or tomorrow.

But,I will advise that you do not wait for the new email IDs before writing to Mr. Stevenson

See you soon in NYC.

Regards,

Lidia
by Alex W Fri Aug 14, 2015 3:14 pm
Ok. Our new partner and good friend now is the domain unces.org.

Mr. Zeus, I think we got a new job. :wink:

-------- Пересылаемое сообщение--------
15.08.2015, 01:02, "Lidia Bratanova" <[email protected]>:

Dear ......,

Thank you for your mail and your request to assist us in fully resolving the server issues when you arrive NYC. But,I think before you come in October,the permanent solution would have been done.If not,your assistance would definitely be requested for.

1. However,as I said in my previous email,our Engineers has given us temporary email IDs for the next couple of weeks to enable them have time to give a permanent solution.The following emails are now accessible for your use:

Mrs. Lidia [email protected]
Dr. Joe [email protected]
Mr. Henry [email protected]

You can test the email IDs if you want now.Like you said,it is good to communicate with private domain servers unlike the public ones.They have assured us that these email IDs won't experience the glitches and we believe them.

2. Mr. Stevenson would respond back to you from his official email ID on Monday the 17th of August,2015 as our China offices are closed for the week end. I guess you would have been in Russia then.It is further advisable that you make the bank to bank swift transfer that same Monday to avoid unnecessary delays.

3. Do not also forget to send to Dr. Joe Adjei the two forms he earlier sent to you.Send them to his new email ID as well.He needs them to commence H-3 visa process.You can send them before Monday to him so he can see them at his desk first thing on Monday morning.

If you require further clarifications,please do not hesitate to ask.

Regards,

Mrs. Lidia Bratanova
by vonpaso xlura Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:25 pm
I think you've gone as far as plausible by being yourself with this scammer. If you'd like to help kill the scammer's future sites, I suggest you head over to http://forum.419eater.com. I'm going to ask if any baiters are interested in serially baiting the scammer; they may need your help getting started.

... ni los estafadores heredarán el reino de Dios. 1 Cor. 6:10
by Alex W Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:29 pm
Ok, here's the message from my pen pals, suggesting me to pay. Also it has bank details of the criminals.

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Dear .........,

Please find attached the payment invoice for PREMIUM PROCESS option chosen
by you which costs $4,910.00 in total and the UN voucher for
reimbursement.Fill and send back UN voucher together with the Bank
Evidence of your Transfer to us so that the H-3 Visa petition application
expense ticket could be raised from your duty station.

You are advised to therefore,send by swift wire bank to bank transfer the
sum of $4,910.00 representing cost associated with the Premium process
for the facilitation of obtaining the mandatory USCIS petition approval
needed to get the issuance of your training visa and the delivery/courier
charges to our US embassy in your country and to your person as well into
the nominated agent's account for your region as follows:

BENEFICIARY BANK:CHINA CONSTRUCTION BANK,JINHUA BRANCH
BANK ADDRESS: NO 3H,DISTRICT INTERNATIONAL TRADE CITY,YIWU ZHEJIANG,CHINA
BENEFICIARY NAME: DING TING
BENEFICIARY ADDRESS: NO. 289,HUANSHI ROAD,XUEXIU DISTRICT,GUANGZHOU, CHINA
ACCOUNT NUMBER: 1463609980110092126
SWIFT CODE: PCBCCNBJZJG

INTERMEDIARY BANK: BANK OF AMERICA,
SWIFT CODE:BOFAUS3N

PURPOSE OF PAYMENT: ADMINISTRATIVE & PROCESSING CHARGES

For tax purposes, the above nominated beneficiary account name as been
used without the CO. LTD as agent to receive the H-3 visa payment.Please
do return a scanned copy of the Bank Transfer swift receipt to you via
[email protected] ASAP to enable us process all you need for
entry into USA.Please note that the above nominated account details is for
the agent appointed covering your region.

You are advised to state the bank details as stated on the payment
invoice.Do not add or remove any info as above for proper and faster
confirmation of your swift transfer.

Also kindly ensure that you send your mailing address so that the hard
copy of your documents could be couriered to you once the processing of
your H-3 Visa petition application is concluded along with the supporting
documents and the H-3 petition approval you would be taking to the U.S
consulate in your country for visa stamping.

Hence, the need for the speedy/immediate execution of your Bank transfer.

Sincerely Yours,

Mr. Henry Stevenson
Accounts & Finance Department For Visas
Beijing Office,UNECE
Alternative email ID:[email protected]

On Sat, August 15, 2015 2:41 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> Dear Mr. Stevenson,
> .
> I am a new employee of the UNECE appointed for the position of Senir
> Programme Manager in Beijin Office.
> Please provide account details for me to pay for H-3 visa processing to
> participate in October orientation in NYC as soon as possible. Please send
> me payment details for a regular process. However if you find it's too
> late for a regular process, send the details for PREMIUM one. But I would
> like to save money for the Organization and if possible get the H-3 visa
> through a regular process. Thank you in advance
> Kind regards
> .............
>

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