Logistics mgr with Angela's electronics

Thank you dotti. without this website i would still be blinded as well. it was a total accident and i dont even remember how i got here but again, this has been a life saver for me and i thank you soooooo much. now am just scared about the job hunt again.

I think we @ scamwarners are honored that you say we are the only ones that have been helpful to you. Thanks for that.

You did do everything you could, trying to see if it was a scam or not. You just happened to be unlucky first one that made it possible for others to realize this was a scam. This is not a matter of what else could have been done. We are all volunteers here, but because of our backgrounds we do tend to dig deeper (and have more places to dig) than Gov't and most private agencies will.

At this point in time it is a matter of what can happen in the future. I tried to explain to you in the earlier post that you need to stop all contacts with these criminals, and let law enforcement handle it now.

I'm not sure what you mean by "do anything" ( as there are many possibilities for "anything" ), but the fact remains law enforcement needs to handle this from now on. If you have read the pages on the USPI's victim witness protection program ( even if they apply in your case, idk), they pretty much say the same thing. The IC3's pages are also very similar with respect to victim's questions.

The likelihood of you ever seeing payment for what you thought was a valid job are slim to none, i'm sorry to tell you. The fact is also that if you do receive a payment, it is likely going to be a fake check, stolen, or money laundered funds. This is something that can also cause you a great deal of harm, if you are not careful with it. Be very careful of anything sent to your home, now that you know it is a reshipping scam. Refuse deliveries of anything that is not from friends or family ( Christmas stuff). it is likely you can tell private shippers and the USPS to hold any packages for you, until you can view them in person and make the decision to return them to the sender.

see the FAQ's from the IC3 for more information : http://www.ic3.gov/faq/default.aspx

Q: What happens after I file a complaint?
After you file a complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3), you will receive an email containing your complaint id and password. This email will contain a link to an area on our site where you can view, download an adobe pdf version of your complaint, and also provide additional information to be added to your complaint.

As Internet crime complaints are reported online, the IC3 electronically compiles the data. Trained analysts review and research the complaints, disseminating information to the appropriate federal, state, local, or international law enforcement or regulatory agencies for criminal, civil, or administrative action, as appropriate.

Q: When will I be updated on the status of the investigation of my complaint?
After you file a complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3), the information is reviewed by an analyst and forwarded to federal, state, local, or international law enforcement or regulatory agencies with jurisdiction. The IC3 does not conduct investigations and, therefore, is not able to provide the investigative status of a previously filed complaint. It is the IC3's intention to review every complaint and refer them to law enforcement and regulatory agencies having jurisdiction; however, investigation and prosecution is at the discretion of the receiving agencies.

the USPI's victim witness resources page is here https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/radD ... urces.html

Hey everyone. I just went back to the db-edit.com site and was able to log into my account. Is there any information I can give you to help? I also just made screenshots of all the chats between me and David Brooks and the 3 tracking numbers and descriptions of the packages I had to deal with.

Reshipping Scam Log In Page :

canonical name db-edit.com.
aliases
addresses 81.177.139.188


Domain Whois record

Queried whois.internic.net with "dom db-edit.com"...
Domain Name: DB-EDIT.COM
Registrar: NETIM SARL
Whois Server: whois.netim.com
Referral URL: http://www.netim.com
Name Server: NS1.JINO.RU
Name Server: NS2.JINO.RU
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 25-jun-2014
Creation Date: 25-jun-2014
Expiration Date: 25-jun-2015

>>> Last update of whois database: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 19:53:01 GMT <<<


Queried whois.netim.com with "db-edit.com"...
Domain Name: db-edit.com
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.netim.com
Registrar URL: http://www.netim.com
Updated Date: 2014-06-25T22:48:58Z
Creation Date: 2014-06-25T00:00:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-06-25T21:00:00Z
Registrar: NETIM
Registrar IANA ID: 1519
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +33.972307476
Domain Status: active
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID: PJ1110
Registrant Name: PENNING Juan
Registrant Street: 610 hall valley drive
Registrant City: DAVY
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code: 24828
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.3046568550
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: [email protected]

Hey everyone. I just went back to the db-edit.com site and was able to log into my account. Is there any information I can give you to help? I also just made screenshots of all the chats between me and David Brooks and the 3 tracking numbers and descriptions of the packages I had to deal with.

Its probably best IMO, queenz68 to save that information for law enforcement personnel. If you have been reading this thread from start to finish there are 3 agencies you need to contact so that you can protect your innocence as a victim, and not be part of the conspiracy. The US Postal Inspector ( or other private shipper's fraud department), The IC3, and your local police department. ( links are elsewhere in this thread).

It is great that you got the screen shots, and will be a good idea for the other victims in this fraud to do the same.

At this point it is impossible to tell if the addresses those packages were shipped to are also innocent victims, or if they are part of the conspiracy. Let law enforcement figure that much out. We don't want to chance bringing innocent victims into this mess.

It is likely the website is in the process of being removed for fraud, but the whois does not yet reflect that statement yet.

electroniti.com was taken down by the nameserver, not the registrar. I've seen lots of reports to Paknic get no action.

db-edit.com has been reported for fraud.

I took screenshots of everything to print out. I filled out the information on two of the links you posted, but the Post Office information only has a PO box and number. I will call them tomorrow and go to my local police station as well. Should we make a complaint with the BBB? I also want to thank you as well. I only wish this information was available last week or I would not have declined a legitimate job interview that I should have gone to last Thursday. I'm so sick over this, and the other company I posted about. I've tried so hard to find a job for the past couple of years, but actively since August when I got laid off from a temporary job, and these two seemed like such wonderful opportunities. Now I have to worry about not being able to pay bills and rent. The messed up part about this is I told a lawyer about this job and said I was a bit leery at what they wanted me to do because why would they have me inspect purchases then send them off to the buyer instead of doing that at the warehouse, and he told me it made perfect sense since they were going out of the country and he seriously doubted it was a scam, then encouraged me to take the position. This really sucks!!!!

I took screenshots of everything to print out. I filled out the information on two of the links you posted, but the Post Office information only has a PO box and number. I will call them tomorrow and go to my local police station as well. Should we make a complaint with the BBB? I also want to thank you as well.

I'd hold off on the printing of the screenshots until someone asks for them ( why potentially waste the paper and ink?). The fact is, even if a physical address was given, instead of a P.O. Box, it is likely false information, anyhow.

There is generally a toll free # that the Postal Inspector's office gives if there is not a local office for you to go to in person. try entering just your ZIP code in the box and see what happens : https://ribbs.usps.gov/locators/find-is.cfm

It wouldn't hurt to file a complaint with the BBB, but since they are not a BBB accredited company, it won't help except to post another warning to others. And the fact is, that particular site is by now permanently offline.

I'm sure each and every one of us on the site here appreciates your thanks. We all have our own reasons for doing this type of thing, but I think we all smile when we see a genuine thank you.

The messed up part about this is I told a lawyer about this job and said I was a bit leery at what they wanted me to do because why would they have me inspect purchases then send them off to the buyer instead of doing that at the warehouse, and he told me it made perfect sense since they were going out of the country and he seriously doubted it was a scam, then encouraged me to take the position. This really sucks!!!!

If I were you I would seriously question how much of a "friend" this "lawyer" is of yours, or if he/she lives in the same world you and I do.... Maybe he knows about a "black market" to ship items out of the country that are not allowed to be shipped by the manufacturer outside the country, and he is OK with that.... idk. But it would cause serious concerns for me about his credibility in the future.

I'm reading this in disbelief. I mean I am aware scams that look somehwat similar exist but I didn't expect to find this much detail about my current employer on this website. I've been employed by them since September. Never met anyone in person so I refused to provide some of the personal information they initially requested (like SSN or bank info). Asked to be paid via paypal. Got paid via paypal three times already. I send packages to various addresses in Mexico, Germany, Czech Republic and at least two states within the U.S. I know of at least one other woman doing this same job for them. She's been doing it for over a year. Or so she said on the phone, I never met her in person, either. I can confirm David Brooks works for this firm and he is my primary contact. Please don't tell me this money they are paying me has been obtained through illegal means? Can the government take my pay back if it's sent via paypal? Can anyone shed some light on how it's possible for them to pay some and not pay the others?

Nicole,
Out of curiosity what made you look the company up and find this thread since you said you've been paid three times already? As mentioned before, I had my suspicions, but I worked for another company before where everything was done by email and phone. However because they had an office close enough for me to drive to, I did go there one time to sign my W2 and I9 form since I didn't have a scanner or fax at the time that's why only talking to someone during the interview process didnt concern me.

Please don't tell me this money they are paying me has been obtained through illegal means?

I don't think anyone here has said "IT IS.... illicit means".... everyone has said "if it gotten by illicit means"...

Can the government take my pay back if it's sent via paypal?

No matter the medium used ( the exception being cash), the government can take anything away from you and charge you with Money laundering, and a host of other charges if they think you are part of a conspiracy. They will call it "evidence".

Can anyone shed some light on how it's possible for them to pay some and not pay the others?

we are not talking about a legitimate business here, so speculation that they must operate in a legitimate fashion by following the law is absolutely ludicrous. Asking anyone here, or anywhere else such a question is outrageous. and fwiw, no legitimate business in the USA is allowed to employ you without seeing valid I-9 documents. So, exactly which I-9 documents did you show your "Employer" in order to be legally "employed" by them, I wonder??

[AlanJones]

Out of curiosity what made you look the company up

That's an interesting question queenz, I know that I don't randomly Google my employer if everything is OK, Perhaps "Nicole" is worried that her "business" is being negatively affected by all the bad publicity here.

I would also wonder why "she" appears to be using a stolen image (for someone with a similar name) as her avatar.

I'm reading this in disbelief. I mean I am aware scams that look somehwat similar exist but I didn't expect to find this much detail about my current employer on this website. I've been employed by them since September. Never met anyone in person so I refused to provide some of the personal information they initially requested (like SSN or bank info). Asked to be paid via paypal. Got paid via paypal three times already. I send packages to various addresses in Mexico, Germany, Czech Republic and at least two states within the U.S. I know of at least one other woman doing this same job for them. She's been doing it for over a year. Or so she said on the phone, I never met her in person, either. I can confirm David Brooks works for this firm and he is my primary contact. Please don't tell me this money they are paying me has been obtained through illegal means? Can the government take my pay back if it's sent via paypal? Can anyone shed some light on how it's possible for them to pay some and not pay the others?

Lets focus on one bit of the above rubbish "I refused to provide some of the personal information they initially requested (like SSN or bank info)". Is that even possible? I'm not in the US, but I know that in the UK it would be impossible to work for someone legitimate without giving your NI Number (the UK equivalent of an SSN) how else would they be able to report taxes for you.

Definate Scammer Nicole R Wrote:

I'm reading this in disbelief. I mean I am aware scams that look somehwat similar exist but I didn't expect to find this much detail about my current employer on this website. I've been employed by them since September. Never met anyone in person so I refused to provide some of the personal information they initially requested (like SSN or bank info). Asked to be paid via paypal. Got paid via paypal three times already. I send packages to various addresses in Mexico, Germany, Czech Republic and at least two states within the U.S. I know of at least one other woman doing this same job for them. She's been doing it for over a year. Or so she said on the phone, I never met her in person, either. I can confirm David Brooks works for this firm and he is my primary contact. Please don't tell me this money they are paying me has been obtained through illegal means? Can the government take my pay back if it's sent via paypal? Can anyone shed some light on how it's possible for them to pay some and not pay the others?

Their website is no good anymore ! How can I sign up ?


On the website it says " the company rapidly grew to the point of opening of several stores over several states "


But Google , The White Pages and The Yellow Pages show no such stores exist .


The registration shows that the website was not brought online until November 4 , 2014 . So how you can work for them for 3 1/2 months and someone else for a year is unbelievable .


Perhaps your boss can clear this up and message a valid re sellers permit from the California State Board of Equalization to a Moderator and clear up some of these other issues like insecure credit card checkouts and non existant stores .

Hello, I am the person who asked the question on Yahoo Answers about the company that is in questioning. Like others have posted on here already, Yes this company is a scam. I realized it was a scam after seeing videos on YouTube about how re-shipping scams work. I wished I would've found out sooner, but I eventually ended my relationship with them and returned the package to sender. It sucks because fake companies like "Angela's Electronics" are preying on people who are searching for work in this scarce job economy like myself and others who have failed for their tricks.

To anyone who is still with the company I suggest you quit it now before you possibly get into serious complications with the law in the long run.

Welcome JKLove, Thanks for posting about your experience. We are doing what we can to warn people and to get the various websites closed down.