Logistics mgr with Angela's electronics

Welcome JKLove, Thanks for posting about your experience. We are doing what we can to warn people and to get the various websites closed down.

You're Welcome! When I found this thread, I just had to make an account here to share my knowledge of dealing with this fraud company and hopefully to help prevent others from failing into the same trap.

And I will join in to help get their website removed as well.

Thanks for joining scamwarners, JKLove. Sorry to hear you were also scammed by these criminals.

I'm curious if you have followed the steps recommended? ( USPostal Inspector or equivalent), IC3, and local PD to make reports to them? If not, please do so at your soonest moment. The more people that file complaints to these agencies, the better chances are that something can and will get done about these criminals.

What we think is a scammer posting trying to validate this criminal enterprise has posted here. Did you ever receive anything that resembled pay like our suspected scammer claims "she" did?

Thanks for joining scamwarners, JKLove. Sorry to hear you were also scammed by these criminals.

I'm curious if you have followed the steps recommended? ( USPostal Inspector or equivalent), IC3, and local PD to make reports to them? If not, please do so at your soonest moment. The more people that file complaints to these agencies, the better chances are that something can and will get done about these criminals.

What we think is a scammer posting trying to validate this criminal enterprise has posted here. Did you ever receive anything that resembled pay like our suspected scammer claims "she" did?

I appreciate your warm welcome HillBilly and to answer your question, I have not yet reported Angela's Electronics to any of the agencies that were posted earlier, but I will do so starting tomorrow. I'm not sure if there is a need for me to contact the USPostal Inspector because the package that they sent to me was never "reshipped". I sent the package back via UPS where it came from.

As for your other question, no I did not received anything like the other person claimed they did (I didn't stay with the company too long) but just because she received compensation from them still doesn't make it a legit company.

Thanks, JKLove. We're next to positive that "SHE" (the suspected scammer) is lying through his teeth. He just saw one of his criminal enterprises being bad mouthed and tried to insert his foot in his mouth to prevent damage. We, around here are able to ask the questions that make suspected scammers like him flee. They can't talk in public because the only good sense their scams make is in their heads. As T5 said, how can "SHE" work for a place for over a year in a place that has only existed for a month or so?? "SHE" hasn't been back to answer any of our questions, isn't that interesting??

If it was sent to you via UPS, and you shipped it back same means, then UPS has a "fraud" or "suspected fraud" department that you can contact. http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resour ... otect.html

If you have information that you believe could help UPS in preventing or detecting fraudulent activity, we want to hear about it at [email protected].

JKlove
Were you the only thing I was able to find a semi complaint with? I think it was mid November just saw that there was a issue bc it was an overseas package. I have done extensive research and couldnt find anything until i finally found this website. it is being investigated is all i will say. i had to find out for sure and it has to be put out there properly so others do not go for this. so far 4 women with families have fallen for it and then you. this has to end

I got of the phone with Fed Ex fraud department and they were not to happy that a lot of peoples boxes were going overseas. She point blank said. Girl just stop now what your doing it is wrong. Those packages are other peoples the invoices are missing numbers. She advised for me to sign to tell my leasing office to quit signing my packages. Which. Sucks for me because I am also in school and now I have to go across town to pick my packages up. I agreed that I am done working for these. I have spoken with David Brooks who was cooperative at having a strange mumbling attitude trusted that the company is legit we have lawyers. I asked so do I have to hirea lawyer he specifically said no because that's why we hired you guys. I know that you are not the only person that has asked me these questions. We have been hacked into our site because people have tried to shut us don several times this year. I9 forms were sent to your email.

[AlanJones]

^^^ You are wasting your time talking to "David Brooks" - he will continue to lie to you to convince you that he is a legitimate business in the hope that you will send more of his packages for him.

His website wasn't hacked it was shut down by the hosts due to being reported as fraudulent.

If you gave him sufficient personal details for him to produce an I-9 then it would be a good idea to take steps to protect yourself from ID theft as you have probably given a proven criminal enough personal information for him to commit ID fraud or sell on to someone else to do it.

The documents were from a Shirley Haywood were they came from the official IRS website. Trust I am not filling anything out. Everything I am posting is what was said to me. I am making everything known because it is being investigated. While I was on the phone with him. This is the first time he contacted me since the website shut down. I wanted specific answers and he merily didn't answer them correctly and didn't want to chat. I had to upload a form and take it with me to cover my butt. At ups and USPS. He never told me where he was located. I asked several times.

I truly do appreciate all of your advice. Because of this scam with Angela's electronics more people will be aware of it. Mind that it is the holiday season I was seriously not expecting to loose two jobs within two months. I was told because I signed up with unemployment in my state too also notify department of Labor and employment because it is listed as a company per their contract that I do work for these scammers. It sucks that they have my address and email. I have closed various banking account's.

The documents were from a Shirley Haywood were they came from the official IRS website.

Documents are free and downloadable from the IRS website. But I don't understand how they could come to you "from the website"... can you please explain that in more detail? I wonder if you are trying to say it was emailed from that woman, if so, what was "her" email address?

I had to upload a form and take it with me to cover my butt. At ups and USPS. He never told me where he was located. I asked several times.

Yes, the forms are required to cover your butt. You do not want to be part of the conspiracy, you want to remain a victim.

How does "he" get in touch with you? can you post a phone #, or email address?

so far 4 women with families have fallen for it and then you. this has to end

So far it is 4 that have come forward and posted in this thread. Very likely the total is much higher because most people either a) might read this, but won't post, or b) don't even do the research to find out about it. Dottie said earlier in the thread, "They open their new sites and hit hundreds (or thousands) of potential victims right away."

JaneDoe30, It might be wise for you to contact a lawyer. It sounds like you are digging yourself into a deeper hole. Your posts are a little vague but it sounds like you continued to work for them even after you knew it was a scam. And you put them as an employer when you went to apply for unemployment? Who told you to contact the department of Labor and Employment? Who is giving you this advice?

Have you gone to your local police department and told them the whole story? You really need to, in order to protect yourself.

The documents were from a Shirley Haywood were they came from the official IRS website

Please post the emails, email addresses, etc. that sent the IRS forms. We need to look into that aspect as well.

Why are you still talking to "David Brooks" when you know he is a scammer?

Sometimes chronology can get a bit jumbled in internet threads.

JaneDoe, am I right in thinking that you contacted "David Brooks" and asked him about some of the points that were raised here, and that in response to these points he then followed up by sending the IRS forms that we had pointed out are needed for legitimate employers?

As a general rule, we recommend against confronting scammers with the points that were raised here. When a victim points out the problems with their scams, the scammers can learn from the information and improve their scams the next time. For example, if you tell a scammer you know something is wrong because he sent you the wrong form, he might take that information and send the right form to the next victim, making his scam harder to detect.

Once you know you are dealing with a scammer who has your real life information, the best thing to do is to cut off all contact with the scammer and file the appropriate reports with the authorities.

While this is definitely a more sophisticated reshipping scam (the added fake HR company shows an attention to detail of a very experienced scam gang) the scam itself is actually very typical of a reshipping ring.

Here is an excellent article that describes reshipping scams and how mules fit in: http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/10/shad ... ed-part-i/

Dotti,
I am such a mess. I have made phone calls and sent emails to alert these places of this scam. I even called out a deputy and he laughed at me and said he cant write a report even with possible identity stolen. he told me wait until my door is busted down. I am so scared and i have tried to take every precaution and measure that I can. I am scared for everything now and i have a family. This is so horrible that these heartless people do this. Also their stuff is back up and been up since monday

shy, chances are very good these criminals are not out to steal your identity at all. The only reason they wanted it was to make their scam seem real.

If you are really worried about your personal information, set up alerts here : https://www.google.com/alerts
put the information contained in quotes ( ergo "123 Main St" , not 123 Main St ), and make separate alerts for your name, address, and whatever other information you gave that you are concerned about. Its also a good way to find out what web sites have information about you, that you can probably get it out of the publics eye with a simple request to be removed.

I guess my post are vague, but David contacted me. After I came on this website. I have stopped all communication with him and that company and notified everyone about the packaging meaning USPS, FED EX, and UPS. I was still receiving packages from from them. Before I signed up with this company I quit a good job and applied for unemployment praying that I would get the Angela's position. I got it and notified unemployment per a contract before I even found out about this scam. That I was working now in which I did not claim those days worked, but still had to report it. I have no money for a lawyer. I am out of funds due to this scam nonsense.