Admn Clerk Scam

Hi, I need to understand if this is a "real" opportunity. This company has been advertising on job boards accross Canada for Admin Clerks, They dont conduct a telephone interview, only online over instant message, send you written questions and ask you to return them . The job is offered, a "contract" stating working hours, responsibilities , pay etc. But then they try to ask you to order your own equipment by mail , they give you the address the reply requests money by WU to Lagos , all emails that come from other employees such as the HR department, dont have a return address that is a persons name.You then get a 3 week training period and are given "tasks" online to complete (internittently) When you ask questions about work start date, location etc they are evasive and dont really answer them.


They appear to have legitimate mailing address and phone number, 2 websites under diffferent names, neither of which state the locations of their other offices, but say they are international etc.

Company web sites are
www.netplusinc.com & www.xpresscomp.com

please advise your thoughts

Anything involving making payments by Western Union to Lagos is a scam and any money you send you might as well flush down the pan. It's that simple.

Most Nigerian scammers know it's best not to mention Lagos or Nigeria in payments, as they can still pick them up even if it bears the wrong country as long as they have the correct information, so they've done you a favour by mistake.

No Western company will receive money by Western Union because they will have a bank account. Western Union is only used for receipt of money by private individuals so you aren't dealing with a company at all. The website may, or may not, be real as scammers will often pretend they are associated with legitimate companies to make themselves appear more credible.

I'm sorry but this is a complete scam.

Thanks for this, I never had any intention of parting with any of my money, but what I cant figure is why they kept sending me "training Tasks" to do and telling me to report for training each day, so i guess be warned all

www.netplusinc.com
www.xpresscomp.com

these guys are to be watched

It's the basics of a standard confidence trick. You don't ask for money up front but get people to do things that they won't object to and make the illusion more realistic. It also conditions you to follow instructions so if the trickster has a set procedure he can just run you through it like a lab rat and by the time you're asked to pay up, you're well hooked and have bought in to the scam. By the time you've invested time and effort you are mentally committed to doing the one last thing to achieve your goal, which is to pay the scammer.

Remember that many scammers get supplied scripts from university students (some are students themselves) and, though some can be a little 'off the wall', they aren't slow to exploit any opportunity - mystery shopping, working from home, personal shopping, receiving cheques. The scammer doesn't ask you to cash counterfeit cheques for him. He gives you what appears a credible story and asks you to supply him with all sorts of information about yourself he could care less about, but it helps to make it appear you have gone through a legitimate selection process, and as he appears to have selected you, it's easier for you to neglect checking him out properly. Before you realise what's happening, you're passing dud cheques through your bank account and paying him your money.

netplusinc.com appears to be offline. Could you please post the emails you received and how that they linked you to xpresscomp.com? If we get definate proof that site is involved, we may be able to get it offline.

The only reason I have a link to xpresscomp.com is through a posting put on another scam warning site on Dec 2nd www.scam.com where someone else had answered the same ad i had, but had pretty much told them where to go as soon as they spoke about the equpment ordering.

the add, posted on several job boards read:

Administrative Clerk (Expired)
netplus computers

Immediately. Full Time. Part Time. Evenings and Weekends. Pay: 18/HR Posted: 9/10/10 Create a resume or choose one from your account. Melanie Bappert of netplus computers inc will receive your application. netplus computers Toronto Job Shop jobs - TorontoJobShop.ca Administrative Clerk Jobs ....
Found at Toronto Job Shop jobs - TorontoJobShop.ca on 2010-09-11 03:09:51

anyway after applying to the add I got sent an email from Melanie Bappert telling me i had an interview and to set up instats messaging with yahoo.com and a person called Wayne Hasman would interview me. This duly happened, although it was all online, he sent me questions, i answered them, he offered the role. sent me a contract of employment a code of conduct form and a personal info form (names address etc nothing other than what was on my resume)

told me to be online the following day for training (for 3 weeks), day 1 & 2 met with me online and sent me "tasks" in relation to the jobs, accounting tasks, free download of quickbooks etc.

but on day 1 also asked me to order myequipment (computer, filing cabinet, fax and phoocopier etc) then came the kicker, money via WU, which of course i refused, he said no problem, we will sort it out here later.

I always smelt a rat, but being a newbie to the country I guess i thought perhaps I was being too cynical, but i was never comfortable with it, and finally got fed up on day 3 and told him so, am glad i did now. Am just glad I never gave anything more than name and address etc. I hope this helps someone else, I consider myself pretty smart, but I fell for some of the patter, its a very elaborate scam.

Though you didn't get snagged by a scammer Summ3rfr, it doesn't make a person dumb who does get caught. You'd be surprised at some of the profession's of those who have lost money and it's clear that intelligence isn't a factor in determining who falls for them. The problem is that the internet gives every cockroach on the planet the opportunity to get access to people's homes, and those who'd never take a risk or do anything shady can easily find themselves in trouble if they're naturally trusting.

I could set up a store on a street and sell fake and damaged goods and get away with for less than a day but pretty soon people would be after me and know where to find me. The internet enables scum to be anyone they want to be, as many times as they want, and to evade pretty well any chance of arrest.

It's less that people are stupid and more that it's ridiculously easy to perform internet scams.

The 419 scammer of 10 years ago is very different from the one of today, and has adapted and become more sophisticated, using modern technology and social engineering skills to become much more effective. They have their own websites and online stores and perform some quite impressive tricks to make them appear genuine. It's not safe for anyone to believe that they aren't vulnerable and scammers wouldn't target solicitors if they didn't believe they couldn't have success, and hadn't already managed it, and you couldn't find a more cynical and worldly wise victim than that.

It's not just individuals either. In my working days I saved several companies from doing deals that would have put their companies into bankruptcy if they'd gone ahead with them. All the scammer needs to know is that you have a need, and they take it from there, and everyone has a need.

I was born cynical, and though cycnicism doesn't make you great company, it is the safe way to operate on the internet.

Just a warning to all, a new ad for this has appeared in the last day:



Earn $150 + Benefits
Admin Representative

Netplus Computers Inc is currently seeking an Admin Representative.

Payment Rate
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> $15-$20/HR

Job Description
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> Entering all cheque vouchers and payment in appropriate account ;
> Maintains accurate records of all Receivable's and Payable's
> Developing, analyzing, and maintaining financial reporting systems in general accounting, budget or cost systems.
> Responsible for compiling amounts owed from purchase orders, charge slips, sales tickets etc.

Requirements
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> A high school diploma, preferably with courses in Accounting, Mathematics and Computer Applications, with +1 yr work

experience;
> Good organizational, analytical, verbal and written communication skills. Detail and deadline oriented and proficient in

Microsoft Office ;

Benefits
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> Health Insurance
> Vacations
> Bonuses

If you are an interested applicant do forward your RESUME IN .DOC FORMAT to [email protected]

Company Name: NetPlus Computers Inc
Location: Barrie,Ottawa,Toronto,Kuwait
Available: Immediately. Full Time. Part Time. Evenings and Weekends.
Posted: 12/4/10

Thank you for posting this. It can help others who might find the job offer and search for information about the so called offer.