Company Representative scams, Payment Processing scams and other Employment scams.
by tohmy Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:17 pm
Hello all, I have been scammed this week but I think I could prevent the worst.

Here is how it came about:

I started applying on job websites in the UK, totaljobs and reed. They were all legit ads and one seemed particularly interesting, multiple vacancies, the company just being around the corner at the local trainstation, reasonable pay, only 10 hours a week, perfect for what i was looking for. After a week or so of replying to several jobs this was the only reply so I was enthusiastic to reply back. I did see the red flags but chose to ignore them at this stage. The header said *my name*, high-paying job which was suspicious. The payment that was mentioned later on in the email was also suspiciously high but i thought, that would be for a full time position, then it would have made sense again. There were also a few subtle spelling and grammare mistakes that made me suspicious. But, never having heard of this kind of scam before, I went ahead. They asked me for my full name, telefone number and availability. I thought nothing of it in my enthusiasm of course. A few hours later I received a text message that I had been entered in a draw for 300 pounds. But i would have to pay 3 pounds a month and that i am already live. to opt out and cancel i was supposed to text or call a certain number. That was more suspicion than I could handle. Today, a day later i then received an email reply saying that I should reply to a different email address and that there is also a company website (before i could not find their website)

website (somewhere in russia, a guy called sergej): http://www.money-visualuk.cc/
first email address (geolocation: somewhere in florida): [email protected]
second email address (geolocation: somewhere in romania): [email protected]

in this last email and on the website I then found out that this company is appearently dealing in arts and needs me as a payment processing agent to receive clients' payments on my PERSONAL BANKACCOUNT to then wire them on to virtual money as this is appearently the fastest way of doing this and they cannot afford to lose time in the arts industry... Well, that was it for me, I told totaljobs (but they haven't replied yet), some other website and eventually came accross some baiting and scam aware websites. As I could only find one forum post about this on the first ecosia search result page I thought it's worthwile telling as many people as possible about this. Similar things seem to happen around the world but it was the main ad on totaljobs that was so realistic that i thought it important to emphasise it here. I thought I would deal with customers who arrive in the city via train and want to exchange their currency for some pounds. It all seemed reasonable. However I still do not know whether this ad is actually afiliated with the scamming people, maybe they just took my CV and saw that I applied there or something like that.

The first add had a 3 hour on/off shift system, reasonable pay, 10 hours a week, 4 vacancies.
the job in the emails then had 2h/day mo to fri 9-11 am and on the website it then only had 3 vacancies left (nice attention to detail sergej!:) but with the pay unrealistically blown out of proportion.

Well, anyway, I hope someone will find this useful, and I hope that totaljobs will reply to me soon as well as warn everyone else who has applied to this job, if it was that job.

Over and Out... tohmy
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by David Jansen Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:38 pm
Welcome here tohmy.

Thanks for posting this. That payment processing job is a so called 'money mule' scam. The scammer will use you to forward money from other scam victims, or receive fake checks, cash them, and transfer the money via western union. The website they are using is probably fake, and will be investigated by one of our fake site specialists.

Always be suspicious if a job offer sounds to good to be true, or when you get hired without questions for a vague job.

Being a victim doesn't mean you stand alone. We're here to help you.
by Michael Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:53 pm
Ho tohmy,

could you please post the emails you received here, along with the headers? If you are unsure what headers are or how to find them, just ask and we'll explain you how to find them. I will need those as evidence to get the site offline. Thanks :D

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by Dora Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:56 pm
Michael, the headers and email were posted on Eater here. I spoke to bravo and he is going to take the domain to the FB forum. ;)
by Michael Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:02 am
Glad to hear :) I am going to copy those exact mails here below so they can be found by search bots. I will leave the killing to you two.
Dear Mr *my name*,

Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Grace Rowley and I represent Money Visual Company.
I am pleased to offer you a part-time position as a Payment Processing Agent at Money Visual, world's famous arts promoting company.

In this assignment of this position, your key responsibilities will be to deal with the Companyâ??s customers and payments for the provided services.

Your base salary is 1800 GBP - 3000 GBP per month or 30000 GBP - 45000 GBP per year. Your salary is payable once a month at month end in accordance with the Companyâ??s standard payroll practices. Your hours of work are expected to be from 9am to 11 am Monday through Friday.

As a part-time employee, you will be eligible to participate in Money Visual Inc group benefit plans for employees.

I wish to convey my sincere enthusiasm about the possibility of you joining our Company. I hope that you find the terms of this offer reasonable and attractive.

Applicants are requested to provide their full names, phone numbers and availability time and send this information to [email protected].

Yours truly,

Grace Rowley
Money Visual Company

Hello, ***.

Thank you for your reply and interest in a part-time position with Money Visual LLC.

In the future please e-mail me at [email protected]

The main strategic aim of our company is to provide quick, easy, efficient and secure ways for the artist and emerging artist to market and promote their art in a professional and inexpensive manner.

The goal of our company is to ensure both, the most reliable transactions level and simplicity of use and availability.

To find out if you're a good match for this position, take our test: http://www.money-visualuk.cc/registrati ... _quiz/?reg

We are happy to offer you the Payment Processing Agent position.

Here are the job Requirements:
- 18 years of age or older;
- internet access to promptly reply to emails;
- availability by phone (1-2 hours a day);
- a bank account to process payments

We welcome competent and reliable approach to work, responsibility and initiative in search of the most efficient ways of job implementation.


Each Payment Processing Agent is provided with employment benefits after successful completion of probationary period (30 days).

The employment benefits include:
- Stock options;
- Retirement Options;
- Flex-Time;
- Health & Dental;
- Professional development programs


You will find detailed description of the job following the link:

http://www.money-visualuk.cc/vacancies/payment

We strongly recommend to read our FAQ:

http://www.money-visualuk.cc/vacancies/payment/faq

Details about our company you can find here:

About Money Visual LLC : http://www.money-visualuk.cc/about/us

Management Team: http://www.money-visualuk.cc/about/team

Some important facts:

1. You don't need to invest your own money to get started;
2. This is not a sales position. While employed with us, you are guaranteed a Base Salary as well as commission per task processed;
3. Each remittance will be accompanied by an invoice ensuring legality of transaction.


If you are interested in the offered vacancy or have any questions please contact us at [email protected]


We appreciate your time and sincerely hope to see you in Money Visual LLC team!

Best Regards,

Grace Rowley
Money Visual LLC
[email protected]
Phone: +44 0208 123 9172
Fax: +44 0208 099 7381

*Please note that some e-mails may enter your SPAM folder and may delay our process of communication. Please add our e-mail address to your filter/safe list to ensure that you receive our e-mails without any delay. If for some reason you do not hear from us within 24 hours with further information, please give us a call at +44 0208 123 9172 and we will provide you with the necessary information.

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by jerunder Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:41 pm
HI all

Just thought I would flag up this as it seemed relevant after a quick google of the email content - it was received from [email protected]:


Dear Jeremy Gray,





We've found your CV at eteach.com and it appears that you meet our basic requirements for initial consideration and would like to offer your a position as a Payment Processing Agent.



Our company is well-known not only in the UK but all over the world. We are dealing with arts all over the world, bringing buyers and sellers together.

Two to three hours a day performing your duties over the Internet is sufficient for this position.



There are no start-up or any other fees. The company covers all the fees related to the hiring process.



We provide one month paid training period, during which you will receive online training and support as well as a regular paycheck. A personal supervisor guides your training. At the end of your training, the personal supervisor will make the final decision whether or not to extend a permanent offer. Your training is critical to your success!



Your starting salary will be 1500 GBP per month plus 8% commission from each transaction during the training period. Total income, given the current volume of clients, should be about 3000 GBP per month. After the training period, base salary will be 1800 GBP per month plus 8% commission.



My goal is to spark your interest. Given the present economy, our position offers training, support and a pay scale comparable to an entry-level position requiring 40 hours per week. I hope you will explore, compare, and then contact me with your questions.



Yours faithfully,



John Foster

ATLANTA LTD
by pessimist84 Mon May 09, 2011 3:46 pm
Hey guys

I got this one as well from John Foster - It sounded dodgy so I googled it and found your post. Here is the e-mail I received.

Salute Mrs *name*

My name is John Foster. I represent ATLANTA LTD . After reviewing your CV, we think that you might be a good fit for our Independent Agent opening. We are expanding our Electronic Payments Processor position by accepting applicants with different backgrounds, and we believe you have the potential to be an excellent match for this position.

Though your work history may not be an exact(previous job-wise)match, I think maybe we'd be a good fit. You don't need any extra skills or experience. The on-line training is provided to assist you in maximizing your earning potential. This is position with benefits plus base salary and qualified candidates earn up to 40,000 GBP a year.

If you are motivated to build a career and independent lifestyle over the next 4-5 years, we can offer you the home-based position of Electronic Payments Processor. Contact us at [email protected] apologize for using a Gmail account and not a company one, it is necessary to avoid getting SPAM letters that can damage our system. You will find out why so many business customers are choosing us.

Our representatives will contact you from our corporate e-mail domain within the next 2 business days.

Respectfully,

Human Resources

John Foster

ATLANTA LTD .
by helibob Fri May 13, 2011 11:25 am
I have experienced exactly the same type of scam. Website looks extremely legi until you look at the Verified Secure Site certificate and see that it has clearly been doctored and includes the name of the other scam company on the botton (Covers Media Group) which is ALSO a scam. http://swiss-estate.net/index.php?page=offer&adv=adv4

Luckily I didn't provide any bank account details of passport/drivers license details which they requested in subsequent emails. Guys name was "Peter Brown" and he catually called me over the phone which did sound legit.

Anything involving money moving through my bank account is ringing alarm bells with me - I hope no one else falls for this. If nothing else its wasted a lot of my time as I thought it was legitimate initially and spent quite a lot of time returning an employment questionnaire which was clearly just for credibility.

Website will be reported - Michael
by Timm3y Tue May 17, 2011 3:09 pm
Hi

I am a newbie and found you only because I got caught out in part by the scam of Swiss Estate AG. No - I did not do any transfer for them - thank god. I did however share some of my personal data with them. Yes stupid I know and am kicking myself well and truly. :oops:

I researched the company well - so I thought it all looked ok. I could not get an answer why they needed people to process payments through personal bank accounts. This in mind I tracked the registered owners down and asked them the Q. Took a bit of time, but was worth it. He was so helpful and explained it was fraudulent and would now take required legal action on mis-use of his company name.

When they did answer other Q's for me and all seemed plausible. I was emailing a lady called Carrie Parks, HR Manager. I see she has placed many ads like this.

I have no idea if they will be any use, but I have kept all of the emails, and T&C sent to me.

Absolutely furious with myself today - just hope no one else gets stung by this as it feels horrible.
by David Jansen Wed May 18, 2011 2:25 am
Welcome here Timm3y.

Yes, you can post some of the first emails that they have send you, that will make it easier for other potential victims to find it here and be warned.

Being a victim doesn't mean you stand alone. We're here to help you.
by forevertrue2001 Mon May 23, 2011 8:01 am
I have also recieved a similar email regarding a 'job opportunity' i have copied the email here below.They got my name too which is annoying. I also am currently unemployed and have my cv on indeedjobs total jobs etc. why are these scammers allowed to get access to my details via various job boards????

Good day (my name),

We have reviewed the CV that you posted on jobsite.co.uk, and I'm pleased to offer you an opportunity to apply for the position of Electronic Payments Processor.

Providing fast, simple, highly efficient and safe ways for art lovers and alike fulfilling their dreams and helping art seller and art buyer to locate each other nationally and internationally is our Company’s main strategic aim.

This position has a flexible schedule, requiring a commitment of 2 to 3 hours a day, from your home in a telecommuting capacity, in which you stay in contact and receive all your tasks on-line.

Your salary during the probationary period will be 1500 GBP per month, plus 8% commission from each transaction. Your total income, with the current volume of clients, will be approximately 3000 GBP per month. After the training period, your base salary will increase to 1800 GBP per month, plus the 8% commission.

I hope you'll find interest in this part-time position. Please feel free to ask me any questions at [email protected].

Thanks,

Jason Graham
SMART LLC .
by Bubbles Tue May 24, 2011 1:22 am
Welcome to ScamWarners forevertrue2001. It is great that you realized this was a scam. Will you please post the email address the message your received came from. This helps others who might search using the email address. Thank you.

Bubbles, former Scamwarners moderator.

Rest in Peace 24 June 2015.

Gone, but never forgotten.
by vicki54ramsay Wed May 25, 2011 8:48 pm
Hi I'm also a newbie. Just came across this website after Googling the name Jason Graham and SMART LLC company after receiving a very dodgy and suspicious email from them. Luckily I'm quite paranoid about things like this so haven't replied.

The email is as follows:

How are you *name*

Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Jason Graham , and I act for
SMART LLC

I am pleased to offer you a part-time position as a Electronic Payments
Processor at SMART LLC, the world-famous antiquepromotion company.
In fulfilling this position, your key responsibilities will be to deal with the
Company’s customers and payments for the provided services.

Your base salary will be 1500 GBP - 3,000 per month, or 25,000 GBP to 40,000 GBP
per year. Your salary is payable once a month, at month’s end, in concordance)
with the Company’s standard payroll practices.
Your hours of work are expected to be from 9am to 11am, Monday through Friday.

As a part-time employee, you will be eligible to(participate|take
part|contest)in SMART LLC group benefit plans for employees.

(I|We) wish to convey my sincere enthusiasm about the possibility of your
partnering with our Company. I hope that you find the terms of this offer both
reasonable and attractive.

Applicants are requested to provide their full names, phone numbers, and
availability times, and send this information to [email protected].

Yours truly,

Jason Graham
SMART LLC Company


Hope this helps in getting rid of these idiot scammers!!
by vicki54ramsay Wed May 25, 2011 8:57 pm
Oh and I don't know if this helps too


Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 10:20:51 +0000
Subject: Job Proposal only for *name*
To:
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
From: "Jason Graham" <[email protected]>
X-Script-Name: /index2.php
X-Server-Name: www.spa-charline.fr
X-Remote-Addr: 88.190.253.253
X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP
x-aol-global-disposition: G
X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:269318688:93952408
X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0
x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d41174dd792045408
X-AOL-IP: 88.191.253.42
X-AOL-SPF: domain : googlemail.com SPF : neutral
by redmonkey Thu May 26, 2011 7:06 am
Just received the same email as vicki54ramsay and also found this thread after being suspicous.

The buggers got my details from Jobsite. This must be so easy if you now how.

I think anyone who gets one of these emails should forward them to the job wesites - I will be!

Remember the old adage: If it seems to good to be true then is pobabaly is!

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