edmiston yacht hotel

Help!!! I am the US and I have been accepted for employment at Edmiston Yacht Hotel. Capt. Pierre Elliot is the contact that I am dealing with. Is this for real? Do you have a number for the company so I can verify any info. Please let me know ASAP. Your input would be helpful.
Tom

There is a real Edmiston Yacht company but that is probably not who you are corresponding with. The name of this company is used for employment scams. Please see this topic: viewtopic.php?f=34&t=16557

The name of the company and Pierre Elliot is used in this scam listing so it is pretty certain that you are involved in a scam: http://www.bestjobsin2010.com/company/v ... acht+Hotel

Content of that fraudulent job posting:

Edmiston Yacht Hotel 62 St. James's Street, London SW1A 1LY, United Kingdom http://www.edmistoncompany.com Edmiston & Company is a world leader in the super yacht industry. Specializing in the sale, charter, management and new construction of the largest and most important yachts. The company has an unrivaled reputation when it comes to performing for its clients at the very highest level.Edmiston is recognized throughout the industry for personal service, transparency, commitment to quality and forward thinking. While other companies have fallen victim to global economic changes, Edmiston Yacht Management has gone from strength to strength. As world leaders in yachting our management department consistently provides expert representation, innovative solutions and services that resonate with today’s client demands. In 2008 we developed custom-built crew training programs, recognizing that the quality of the crew is directly proportional to the enjoyment on board. Highly trained in service, safety and security, a crew trained by Edmiston enhances a yacht’s service, appeal and value. We want to use this medium to inform you that vacancies is now on, so therefore do let us know if you have an interest in working in any of the areas in which Edmiston Yachting Company Job Offers, Below are the Vacancies: *Engineer *Captain *Stew work *Mate Engineer *Deckhand *First Mate *Stewardess *Chef *Steward *Chef Stew *Cook Stew *Masseuse *2nd Engineer *Waiter *Customer Care Representatives *Guest Room Attendants *Cleaners *Estate-managers *Head Housekeepers *Gardeners *Housekeepers *House-managers *Maternity Nurse *Lady's Maids *Butlers *Cooks/Chefs *Mother’s Help *Caretakers *Nannies *Chauffeurs *Tutors Job Salary: Depending on your roll of specialization, Salary Ranging from 4,500.00 GBP to 8,500.00 GBP or negotiable and We shall take care of your Transportation expenses, Accommodation, feeding and a month training on arrival. If you are interested to work with us in any position, please kindly send your resume to our via e-mail ([email protected]) immediately with your personal details including your roll of profession/Skill of Specialization. Regards Capt. Pierre Elliott

If you post more information we can further advise you.

The real Edmiston Yacht company website is here: http://www.edmistoncompany.com/ I do not see a phone number listed but they do have a contact us page here: http://www.edmistoncompany.com/contact/index.htm?id=6

I'm sorry to tell you but this is a scam. I work for the real Edmiston Company and the Edmiston Hotel does not exist. They are using our name, logo and address to deceive people looking for jobs. They will tell you that you have got the job and then ask you for money for a Visa. Please do not give them any money and report the job advert to the website you found it on. We are trying to close them down but the scam is originating in Nigeria and proving very hard to trace.

Many Thanks.

Thank you for posting this information, scamhate. Please let us know if we can be of help.

Please Help!!! I am the Indonesia and I have been accepted for employment at Edmiston Yacht Hotel. Capt. Frank Collins is send min mu Email and the contact that I am dealing with. He also attach a letter of interviews to work, then sent a letter contract to Email me, four months ago I had sent a job application to the company Edmiston Yacth Hotel, as the crew Ship / Oiler.
In one email sent by the CPT. Frank Collins recorded as the recruitment department Edmiston Yacht Hotel +44 702 407 2959, Is this for real? Do you have a number for the company so I can verify any info. Please let me know ASAP. Your input would be helpful.
Arry...

Hello Arry Nugroho.

I have to tell you that they are not real. This is a big scam and the criminals only want to steal your money.
As you can read above they have nothing to do with the real company which you can contact here
http://www.edmistoncompany.com/contact/index.htm?id=6
- the real company is selling yachts and is no hotel.
The phonenumber the scammers gave to you is a UK roaming number which can be redirected to anywhere in the world and is probably going to West Africa.
If you take a closer look at the email the scammer is using to contact you, you will see that it is a free email address. The real company would not use a free email address but they would use a @edmistoncompany.com email address.

Please stop all contact to the scammer, don't tell them that you found them on scamwarners and just stop answering their mails. They will leave you alone as soon as they have realized that you are not going to pay.

Always remember: never pay money via Western Union or Money Gram. Legitimate employers will never ask you to pay money in advance or to pay money to sign a contract.
If you are paying to a bank account the details of the account have to match the details of your business partner.
And there is no way of applying for a visa via email and with only scans of your passport. You will always have to go to the embassy to do so. If somebody tells you different he is a fraud.

If you have further questions we are here to assist you.

Hi Arry Nugroho!

As scamhate posted, on Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:57 am

I'm sorry to tell you but this is a scam. I work for the real Edmiston Company and the Edmiston Hotel does not exist. They are using our name, logo and address to deceive people looking for jobs. They will tell you that you have got the job and then ask you for money for a Visa. Please do not give them any money and report the job advert to the website you found it on. We are trying to close them down but the scam is originating in Nigeria and proving very hard to trace.

The phone number that you posted is a redirect number and has been used for scamming for a few years now: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 206AAcjJEp
Please also read this post, which explains the scam: viewtopic.php?f=34&t=16557

Edmiston wish to raise awareness of a possible UK visa scam that was discovered recently. The group of scammers using a variety of apparent pseudonyms such as Morris Winter, Capt. Jones William and Capt. Pierre Elliot start with false job adverts in emails naming unsuspecting companies, "The Edmiston Hotel" amongst them.
Unfortunately it doesn’t just stop there. It has been reported to us that once they attract someone’s attention they even go as far as issuing bogus appointment letters. After that, they get down to what they are really after. Charging up to £900 for arranging a UK visa. For a job that doesn’t exist.
Any phone numbers given are premium rate UK numbers; expensive but very hard to trace and therefore quite commonly used by scammers.
http://www.edmistoncompany.com/crew/caution.htm

Thank you very much Adgarharrison.
The warning on Edmiston's homepage is a great example how easy it is to make it harder for the scammer to fool victims.
Quite a few victims are going to check the homepage of the company and then such a warning can save them from falling for the fake job offer.

The number given makes it a scam. It is only scammers that use this type of phone numbers. It is a free phone number which anyone can rerount to another number.

However, Helen Halper, what makes you think the Scam is originating from Nigeria?

Welcome to Scamwarners, yommytec!
Nigeria is, unfortunately, where a huge percentage of scams originate. In this case, the real company that was being impersonated investigated the scam, and found that it was coming from Nigeria.

scamhate posted, on Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:57 am

I'm sorry to tell you but this is a scam. I work for the real Edmiston Company and the Edmiston Hotel does not exist. They are using our name, logo and address to deceive people looking for jobs. They will tell you that you have got the job and then ask you for money for a Visa. Please do not give them any money and report the job advert to the website you found it on. We are trying to close them down but the scam is originating in Nigeria and proving very hard to trace.

Welcome to Scamwarners, yommytec!
Nigeria is, unfortunately, where a huge percentage of scams originate. In this case, the real company that was being impersonated investigated the scam, and found that it was coming from Nigeria.

scamhate posted, on Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:57 am

I'm sorry to tell you but this is a scam. I work for the real Edmiston Company and the Edmiston Hotel does not exist. They are using our name, logo and address to deceive people looking for jobs. They will tell you that you have got the job and then ask you for money for a Visa. Please do not give them any money and report the job advert to the website you found it on. We are trying to close them down but the scam is originating in Nigeria and proving very hard to trace.

Well, I own up and admit my mistake. Only that so many people write "Nigeria Romance scam", "Nigeria Scam", "Nigeria 419 scam" and the likes whereas most of the scams are coming from other places.

Truly there are lots of scammers from this part of the world but not all Scams are coming from Nigeria. I used to be a scammer myself and have lots of friends who are none Nigerians who are into this. In those days, we use people's credit cards to make western union transfers and we have somewhat of a gang.

The guys who gets the victim - me and my late partner ( both of us Nigerians ).
The guys who fetch the credit cards from unsuspecting victims - An Egptian, A Parkistani and A Lebanese
The guys who fetch the credit owner's background details for WU questions - An American
The guys who calls western union - 4 of them from America ( 1 female who calls when we have female card details).

Like I said earlier, I agree the bulk of it is coming from here but people need to accept the fact that it is a global thing.

That is a valid point, yommytec, and one we try to make often. There are scammers all over the world. We do, however, see a higher percentage from certain areas on this forum, simply because we limit ourselves to specific types of scams.

Spammers also come from all areas of the world, even though we see a higher percentage from some areas. And we do ban spammers here. I have removed the spam links from your signature line, but if the links return, that will be your fate as well.

Well, I own up and admit my mistake.

Mistake?... MISTAKE?... MISTAKE? I wouldn't call deceiving people to steal their money a mistake. I call it criminal. I am curious what made you stop scamming people of their earned money. Was it your conscience?
Did you return any money to the people you deceived and stole from?

Only that so many people write "Nigeria Romance scam", "Nigeria Scam", "Nigeria 419 scam" and the likes whereas most of the scams are coming from other places.

Truly there are lots of scammers from this part of the world but not all Scams are coming from Nigeria.

I do not believe we claim that all scammers come from Nigeria. You seem to be defensive toward scamming. I don't believe you have the experience we have regarding scammers. We never claim that ALL scammers are from Nigeria or the surrounding areas. We do know that most of the scams and scammers we deal with come from West Africa. We also state that we don't try to deal with every type of scam which is on the internet here.

I used to be a scammer myself and have lots of friends who are none Nigerians who are into this. In those days, we use people's credit cards to make western union transfers and we have somewhat of a gang.

Sir, this leads me to believe you are still involved in scamming and scammers, which also leads me to believe you condone what they are doing.

It sounds like you were not a Romance scammer, but an outright thief, using stolen credit card information. It is all illegal activity. What you did was like robbing a bank, one credit card at a time.

The guys who gets the victim - me and my late partner ( both of us Nigerians ).
The guys who fetch the credit cards from unsuspecting victims - An Egptian, A Parkistani and A Lebanese
The guys who fetch the credit owner's background details for WU questions - An American
The guys who calls western union - 4 of them from America ( 1 female who calls when we have female card details).

Are your gang members still in the scam "business"?
Did your Egyptian friends obtain credit cards by force?
Is your background American still in the scam "business"?

Like I said earlier, I agree the bulk of it is coming from here but people need to accept the fact that it is a global thing.

Well, that isn't exactly what you said, and we have never said all scams come from your homeland.

I am hoping you will answer my questions by PM or here in the open.