Company Representative scams, Payment Processing scams and other Employment scams.
by kuba999 Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:33 am
Hi

I found this Agric Startoil Company Limited

Contact Name : Mr.Dima Petrov
Address: 16,Leninsky Prospekt
City : Moskva
Country : Russia
Zipcode : 119049
Phone : +7-925-8154765 Fax : +7-925-8154765

How can i chceck them are they genuine?
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by TerranceBoyce Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:13 pm
This is the third Russian oil company that's been referred to this forum in the last couple of days.

Do you need to ask ?

A simple rule is that if you can't verify the authenticity of a company offering you a deal, then you shouldn't do business with them. Equally, if you're seeking to arrange a meaningful deal relating to oil, which would be in the millions of dollars, then you shouldn't be asking here.

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by kuba999 Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:31 pm
TerranceBoyce wrote:This is the third Russian oil company that's been referred to this forum in the last couple of days.

Do you need to ask ?

A simple rule is that if you can't verify the authenticity of a company offering you a deal, then you shouldn't do business with them. Equally, if you're seeking to arrange a meaningful deal relating to oil, which would be in the millions of dollars, then you shouldn't be asking here.



I just asked how to chceck it, i saw in many posts that people showing for ex. that there is a fake telephone, checking when the site is open, and for how long is suscibed.

I didnt found anything about that company, so i'd like to help me chceck in and if it fake, futher buyers will see it. That's all
by AlanJones Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:44 pm
kuba999 wrote:I didnt found anything about that company


This should be your first red flag - legitimate companies thrive on publicity in order to get customers. If you can't find anything about a company then how is it getting customers.

Also legitimate companies have their own websites (which you can then check to see how long they have existed, who they are registered to etc.). If you put a company's name into Google, then you would expect its own website to appear in the first couple of results.

For Agric Startoil, the only results that seem to come up are listings on free directory websites where businesses can advertise. Anyone can place an advert on those types of sites, so they do nothing to prove the legitimacy of the company.

I would also agree with Terrance - if you aren't able to tell whether companies are legitimate or not then you probably shouldn't be getting involved in high risk deals.

Where are you getting the names of these companies from as you seen to be coming up with a lot of them and they all appear dodgy.

Please do not tell scammers that they are listed here - it will take them seconds to change their fake details and their new details will not be listed for any future victims to find.
by vonpaso xlura Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:27 pm
If you run whois (or jwhois) on the domain and find that it's registered for only a year or two, it's probably fake. Especially if it claims to have been around for a decade, but was registered last month, it's fake. (This doesn't apply, of course, to political campaign sites.) Example:

$ jwhois inehoilandgas.ru
[Cached]
[whois.ripn.net]
% By submitting a query to RIPN's Whois Service
% you agree to abide by the following terms of use:
% http://www.ripn.net/about/servpol.html#3.2 (in Russian)
% http://www.ripn.net/about/en/servpol.html#3.2 (in English).

domain: INEHOILANDGAS.RU
nserver: ns1.hosting.reg.ru.
nserver: ns2.hosting.reg.ru.
state: REGISTERED, DELEGATED, UNVERIFIED
org: INEH OIL AND GAS
registrar: REGRU-REG-RIPN
admin-contact: http://www.reg.ru/whois/admin_contact
created: 2013.08.07
paid-till: 2014.08.07
free-date: 2014.09.07
source: TCI

If you're going to be dealing with Russian companies, you should learn some Russian. I know a little Russian; my vocabulary is not extensive, but my grammar is good enough to write an understandable report. Ineh claims to be in Moscow, but the site is in Ukrainian.

Those are just a few of the signs that a site is fake. Browse this site, and you'll find plenty.

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