Advance fee loan scams and fraudulent loan sites.
by wasalakcag Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:13 pm
I'm from San Francisco California, I apply a loan online october 17 2008 for $5000. On October 22 2008, a guy name HENRY WILSON called me that i was approve of a loan, but he said i have to pay 8 months advance ($938), but before that he fax the information and the agreement that i have to sign, so i did sign the agreement. after i send the information he told me to sent the payment to DIANE GARZA in canada, HENRY WILSON told me this is they're accountant manager. So i give the confirmation number to HENRY WILSON and he said that you will receive the check by Fedex in two days. So i waited but the next thing you know, the next morning a guy name STANLEY DENSON called me that there's a problem. He said that my credit is to low, and the bank is asking for 8 months advance again that's $938. So i borrow $938 to one of my family member because STANLEY DENSON said that if he receive the money today i will receive the $5000 tomorrow. So I did send another $938 to DIANE GARZA in canada. After a couple of days STANLEY WILSON called me again and he said the bank back out, so i was so mad, and i said i want my money back. but he said he cant do that, he said you have to wait for the billing cycle. he even told me that if theres a late payment, one of the're lawyer is gonna call me to pay for late bills i have, but no call yet. He told me that i will receive it on NOV 24 2008. but i cant wait that long my car is already Repossessions I don't have any money I have to pay the money that i borrow from a family member. Now i'm trying to call them but I think they block my number. and they're website is not there anymore. I really need a big help right now i'm all out of money and need my money back.
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by charlie16 Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:52 pm
Hey all,
Here is an update... I was contacted by Detective Charlie Stack from the Fort LAuderdale police department. I had left him several messages and he finally called back. The address that these people listed is not real. There is a detective working on the case. I did not get his name. He told me that because this involves the internet and another country, Canada, I should contact the Secret Service which I have done.
I just wanted to keep you all up to date with what I know and give you the opportunity to contact Secret Service as well.
jenmc0306
by Ralph Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:27 pm
@ Jen,

Please PM any of the details of the person you spoke to from the secret service to Full Auto so he can include anything relevant to the others here in his PMs to each of you.

Yes, the local police are powerless when the criminal is operating from another country, contacting law enforcement is never going to be a bad thing but it should be coordinated if at all possible so each of you is dealing with the same member of law enforcement.

It is worth restating for any newcomers, please read through this entire thread, there is valuable information about protecting your identity and preventing further loss posted earlier in the thread.

These are certainly not your garden variety scammer that you are dealing with.
by Naz Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:17 pm
I cant believe how big this thing has exploded!! I come here to vent and share a story and come to find out, I wasnt the only one that got hit by them. My story was published on Consumer Affairs and they have it under Lending Tree scams. There are SOOOOOOO many people that got scammed either by or because of them. Its a shame. We are already broke ands these B*ST*ARDS are thriving off of us!! They want to line their already stuffed pockets with the hard earned money of those less fortunate and dont even feel one ounce of remorse or regret for the people they have hurt. Its disgusting. :(
by full auto Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:02 am
^ As has been said before, puts meaning the love if money is the root of all evil. I ran a calculation on a previous site, they raked in around $200,000 just off of that one site... and that was a conservative estimate. These guys are doing far to well, and I knew this thread was bound to explode like this from what I've witnessed before.

@ Jenmc: Please send me any information you may have about this detective.

@ All: Update coming!

"Art is resistence." Trent Reznor's Year Zero
by ChrisSmith Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:52 am
One thing that should be stressed.

If you've been a victim of this scam, please make a report to your local police.
Unless a crime is registered, the law can do nothing.

Although local police may not have the resources to deal with something like this, they are the guys you need to go to first to get the ball rolling. Register the crime first. Mediation between law enforcement agencies can always be done at a later date. You can always point your local LE to this site so that they can see that it is not just a minor crime but a major fraud affecting many, many people.

If you want something done about these scammers, don't just sit there and rely on other people to make the first move. If enough victims go to LE, this gang will hit their radar and they'll have to act.
by scammed2 Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:23 pm
I was scammed by cedarbrook lending group also. I haved talked with the police and they told me to get in contact with money gram to see if they have a surveillance video of whoever picked up the money. Maybe if we can get these people on video and give it to the canadian police they can help us out a little bit. Just a thought.
by Stacey Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:02 pm
I was contacted by Henry Wilson at Cedarbrook Lending in October 2008 and was advised that I had been approved for a $5000 loan. However due to my past credit history to secure the loan I would have to put 6months up front to secure my loan. I thought about it and tried googling them, but came up with nothing so I went ahead and did it, now wishing I hadn't. Then on the day I was suppose to get my loan I get another call stating my loan got reassessd and I would have to put down another 6 months. Although I was skeptical, I guess I was also desparate I sent it. Again the day I was suppose to get my loan I get a call from Stanley Denton saying the lender backed out of the contract and that on the next billing cycle 11/24 I would get my money back and that their legal department would be taking action against the lender becasue they breeched the contract and that If I wanted to do another loan I could, I said no I just want my money back. Now I can't get a hold of them on the phone, I googled the company again and find all these posts regarding there scams. Christmas is here and now I'm broke, my children and family have to suffer now. I need a way to let everyone know and try to get back what's mine.
by idiot Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:10 pm
Stupid stupid stupid! All I have to say. I should have known better dammit!
*bashes head on the desk*

Same story as the others...

Knew something was wrong when i got the second call for more money. I did try to find out if it was a scam before I sent the money but nothing popped up so against my better judgement and need of the loan I sent it. Now I owe my grandmother 1400 bucks!

So much for Christmas...
by Jillian Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:20 pm
Welcome here. No need to be quite so hard on yourself; as you can see by this thread, you're definitely not alone. :wink:

This is a very involved scam. We have a member who is working on this project, full auto, who will likely be in touch with you through private message soon.

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by mrs_d Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:45 am
So I have been working for the past few days (now that my loan is gone...) and I come back to this post and I see that more people have come forward with their stories.

I am so sorry to everyone who has been scammed by these people. I hope that everyone goes through this rough patch okay...
by full auto Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:26 am
I would like to echo a common thing I've been hearing from many of your here with the identity and banking information you sent. It does not matter how little you have in your account, or how bad the credit is on your ID... cover your rear here and get the banking and ID information covered with the information either here or in the PM I have sent you. You don't want these guys to use that information in any way that can affect you after this, and they may already be working on that.

To those I have not contacted yet, I'll be getting to you soon! Hang tight guys there's information coming, until then back read the thread and please ask anyone (mod/admin/scam warner) what you can do to protect yourself if you are confused on any bit about identity theft and banking information that may have been compromised/provided to these scum bags.

"Art is resistence." Trent Reznor's Year Zero

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