Advance fee loan scams and fraudulent loan sites.
by cagedbird714 Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:29 am
Ralph,

This is not totally accurate. I am not sure about Moneygram but with Western Union you have to live in the area where they are sending the money. My ex had to send me some money once and I live in NJ but work in NY and I asked Western Union if I could pick it up in NY and they told me I had to to go to the location in the state where he sent it meaning NJ. The other problem with this is that we all sent the money to Canada. Which means since they asked all of us for photo id, they can be using our own ids to pick up the monies in Canada.

Ralph wrote:The problem is that Western Union money can be picked up from any country in the world and by virtually anybody, you need only have the senders name and the test question / answer, fake IDs are usually used without too much concern and especially from Africa or Russia where it is common to bribe the WU workers to allow you to pick up the payment.

Western Union and Moneygram are certainly not secure which is exactly why they are the preferred choice for scammers.

I would love for the worlds police forces to get together to tackle the problem but it doesn't seem like that will happen too soon either, they just seem to have too many other problems that are a higher priority than internet fraud, that is the main reason for reporting internet crime, if everybody that got scammed reported it they may take more notice.
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by full auto Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:05 pm
@ Julie and Caged: One thing that poses a problem are bribed or threatened Money Gram/WU employees. Sometimes the people at these places are right in line with the scammers themselves, either for personal gain or out of necessity. You'll find employees of this nature make such an effort hard. Also, a police officer is unlikely to sit there all day just waiting. Takes time and tax payer money, and for most LE agencies they're busy enough. Sitting and waiting is a lot to ask when you've got a whole community to manage. Also of interest, even if you get the person collecting the money, this person is usually just a small player in the game. His arrest won't take down the whole operation, you'd be lucky if he squealed enough to even hurt it.

*Bookmark for myself* Everyone here should have been contacted by me in PM at one point or another if you've had contact with cedarbrook.

"Art is resistence." Trent Reznor's Year Zero
by babydll77 Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:51 pm
I feel so stupid. I also fell for this scam. I received a phone call from Clearviewlending on Oct 28th from Jamie Davenport saying I was approved for a $10,000 loan. He said I would need to pay a $1,400 security deposit that would cover the first six months of payments. I was a little hesident to do this and told him I was unsure if I could come up with the money. (It's not like I had this just laying around. If I did, I wouldn't have needed a loan in the first place.) I tried to get a loan from my bank and heard I was denied, so I decided to go ahead with this loan. I borrowed the money form payday advances (I figured I could pay them back after I got the loan and everything would be fine) and the last $360 from my mom. I told her I would pay her back in a day or so after I got the loan. I called Jamie back and told him I would go ahead with it. He told me I would need to send a money gram to Victoria A Carpenter in Pine Falls, Canada. On Thursday Oct 30, I sent the money. The next day around 3 or 4 I recieved a phone call from Clearview (I can't remember the name of the guy who called me). He stated that I would need to send an addition $1,400 because of the insurance and I was "high risk". I told him that I could not come up with that and I wanted a refund. He said that he would refund me it back along with an addition $200 for the inconvience. I would have to wait until Nov 28 to get my money back. So I said fine. I was very upset by this news, but figured at least I was getting my money back. Well, November 28th has come and gone and still no money. I decided to get on thier website to send them an email when I found this site. The website has been closed down and I tried calling the phone number on the papers I have. All I get is a "Thank You. Good-bye".
So now I'm out $1,400 and soooo behind on my bills and rent because of this whole mess. Paying back those payday advances takes my whole paycheck and leaves nothing for me to pay anything else. Not to mention I am a single mother, so this makes it even worse.
by cagedbird714 Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:44 am
Hi babydll77 -- I found some interesting news about Clearviewlending on the BBB site...

Customer Experience
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Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record with the BBB due to a pattern of complaints.

All complaints are regarding obtaining a loan that never happens. Consumers are advised they have been approved and then must send advance payments for various reasons. Often times, the company will ask for multiple payments in an effort to take as much money as possible from the consumer. Payments sent by moneygram are difficult to trace and if the money is sent out of the country there is no way to retrieve these payments.

The BBB has verified that the address in this report is not valid. All mail has been returned as unable to deliver.

The BBB has been unable to contact the company concerning complaint(s). We have not been able to determine a valid address and/or phone number for this company.
Business Contact and Profile
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Name:

Clearview Lending Services
Phone:

(866) 504-3148
Address:

7335 Sand Lake Rd, Orlando, FL 32819
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Business Category:

Advance Fee Brokers
BBB file opened:

October 28, 2008
Customer Complaint History
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The company's size, volume of business and number of transactions may have a bearing on the number of complaints received by the BBB. The complaints filed against a company may not be as important as the type of complaints, and how the company has handled them. The BBB generally does not pass judgment on the validity of complaints filed.

Number of complaints processed by the BBB
since the firm's BBB file was opened in October 2008: 35
in the last 12 months: 35

Complaints Concerned:
Selling Practices (2 complaints)
2 The company could not be located or is out of business
Service Issues (4 complaints)
4 The company could not be located or is out of business
Credit or Billing Disputes (2 complaints)
2 The company could not be located or is out of business
Delivery Issues (2 complaints)
2 The company could not be located or is out of business
Refund Practices (12 complaints)
12 The company could not be located or is out of business
Contract Disputes (12 complaints)
12 The company could not be located or is out of business
Guarantee or Warranty Issues (1 complaints)
1 The company could not be located or is out of business
Government Actions
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The BBB has no information regarding Government Actions at this time.
Advertising Review
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The BBB has no information regarding Ad Reviews at this time.
Additional Information
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If you have been victimized by this entity, please contact the IC3 -the Internet Crime Complaint Center- at www.ic3.gov, as well as Phonebusters -the Canadian Anti-Fraud Center- at www.phonebusters.com


babydll77 wrote:I feel so stupid. I also fell for this scam. I received a phone call from Clearviewlending on Oct 28th from Jamie Davenport saying I was approved for a $10,000 loan. He said I would need to pay a $1,400 security deposit that would cover the first six months of payments. I was a little hesident to do this and told him I was unsure if I could come up with the money. (It's not like I had this just laying around. If I did, I wouldn't have needed a loan in the first place.) I tried to get a loan from my bank and heard I was denied, so I decided to go ahead with this loan. I borrowed the money form payday advances (I figured I could pay them back after I got the loan and everything would be fine) and the last $360 from my mom. I told her I would pay her back in a day or so after I got the loan. I called Jamie back and told him I would go ahead with it. He told me I would need to send a money gram to Victoria A Carpenter in Pine Falls, Canada. On Thursday Oct 30, I sent the money. The next day around 3 or 4 I recieved a phone call from Clearview (I can't remember the name of the guy who called me). He stated that I would need to send an addition $1,400 because of the insurance and I was "high risk". I told him that I could not come up with that and I wanted a refund. He said that he would refund me it back along with an addition $200 for the inconvience. I would have to wait until Nov 28 to get my money back. So I said fine. I was very upset by this news, but figured at least I was getting my money back. Well, November 28th has come and gone and still no money. I decided to get on thier website to send them an email when I found this site. The website has been closed down and I tried calling the phone number on the papers I have. All I get is a "Thank You. Good-bye".
So now I'm out $1,400 and soooo behind on my bills and rent because of this whole mess. Paying back those payday advances takes my whole paycheck and leaves nothing for me to pay anything else. Not to mention I am a single mother, so this makes it even worse.
by cagedbird714 Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:11 pm
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by jaskew Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:57 pm
I too was scammed by this company, but they were going under the name Clearview Lending. I applied for an online consolidation loan of $5,000.00 through a reputable company, but I ended up hearing from them. The person that I was working with initially was Andrew Simmons,who on his fax cover sheet is identified as the Senior Account Executive. His information is 1-866-504-3148, ext. 492. I was faxed all the necessary documents, to read, review and sign and had to send those back to the fax number included on the sheet, that number was 1-407-650-3400. That was the 31st of October, 2008. The CEO was listed as Julian D. Glen. I went to my local Walmart and completed a Money Gram International form and sent it to Natalie Bishop, Cold Lake, Alberta, Canada. I was told to wait to receive an 8 digit reference number and that the funds promised, could be in my account later that evening. The amount I had to send in was $880.00 plus the fee for the transfer which was $14.16. Later on the next day, I received a phone call from Mr. Glen Russell, who stated that he was with Customer Service and there was a problem with my loan paper work. When I asked what the problem was, he stated that because we had come in hot, meaning, high credit risk, that the lender needed to guarantee their money, so I was given his number, 1-866-504-3148, ext. 0 and was told that if I wanted the loan, that I needed to send in an additional $880.00 plus the fees, and they would process my loan. I did on the 4th of November. I waited to hear from them, and then received a call from Mr. Russell again, that the lender had decided not to do the loan and had backed out. He stated that they, (Clearview Lending) was sueing them for not holding up their end of the agreement, and that either I could have my money refunded or I could send in an additional $1700, and they could up my loan to $10,000. instead of the original $5,000. Luckily, something told me not to send them any more money and to ask for a refund. So, I did. Mr. Russell told me that it would be November 27th, before we could receive a refund and that I would need to wait until then. He also said that he would also refund any late fees that occured, due to the lost of the loan, but I would have to wait until the 27th and he would call me. The 27th has come and gone, no phone call. I tried to call the number, I only got a message that said, thank you. I looked on the website, no website is there. Before I accepted this offer, I looked on the Better Business Website for Florida, and it was there. The BBB did not have any negative reports, so I thought it was going to be ok. How wrong I was. I have now got to notify my bank, because they have my banking information and they also have my driver's license number. If anyone has any suggestions on how to stop them from scamming someone else, let me know. I am posting all of their information, so people be ware.



Clearview Lending Services
7335 Sand Lake Rd.
Orlando, Florida 32819

1-866-504-3148
Fax- 1-407-650-3400
www. CLEARVIEWLENDING.NET

Agents:

Andrew Simmons
Glen Russell

Loan sent to:

Natalie Bishop
Cold Lake, Alberta, Canada
by Ralph Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:34 pm
@ Caged Bird, good idea re the media, it certainly cant do any harm and the awareness is much needed :wink:

@Jaskew, Welcome to Scamwarners, please read through the information on the previous pages, there is some good advice on protecting your identity and bank account, from what is known of these scammers they may not have finished with you yet but there are things you can do to protect yourself from further loss, stay tuned, there will be more information coming your way.
by elitaw Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:59 pm
I once again applied for a loan trying to get help after Cedarbrook scammed me. I got a reply from Mcallister and Burnes Financial Inc. I swear it is the same people or the same scam going on! The guy who called me is named Jason Watson and when i called him back it was the same answering service. The guy also has the same accent that Robert Baxter and Stanley did. They want me to do the same thing which is send them money and yes it is to Canada. I really think these are the same guys. Check out their website. Mcallisterandburnesfb.com. Their phone number is 1-888-924-0777. Maybe it's the same guys and maybe we can do something to stop them.
by Ralph Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:56 pm
Yes, it most likely is the same people having another go at stealing from you

The below information has details of the website

mcallisterandburnesfb.com


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information about or related to a domain name registration record.
1&1 does not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a WHOIS query,
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under no circumstances, you will use this data to
(1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission by e-mail,
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domain: mcallisterandburnesfb.com
created: 04-Nov-2008
last-changed: 04-Nov-2008 (of particular note is the 1 year registration, if they planned on sticking around the registration would be for much longer)
registration-expiration: 04-Nov-2009

nserver: ns57.1and1.com 74.208.2.9
nserver: ns58.1and1.com 74.208.3.8

status: CLIENT-TRANSFER-PROHIBITED

registrant-firstname: Oneandone
registrant-lastname: Private Registration
registrant-organization: 1&1 Internet, Inc. - http://1and1.com/contact
registrant-street1: 701 Lee Road, Suite 300 (I just googled the address, i dont have time to go through it but i am sure there will be things of interest in the search result Click here
registrant-street2: ATTN: mcallisterandburnesfb.com
registrant-pcode: 19087
registrant-state: PA
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tech-c-city: Chesterbrook
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tech-c-phone: +1.8772064254
tech-c-email: [email protected]

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bill-c-lastname: Private Registration
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bill-c-pcode: 19087
bill-c-state: PA
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bill-c-phone: +1.8772064254
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See http://registrar.1und1.info for information about 1&1 Internet AG


I will notify one of our site killers and see what they can do with it, thank you for bringing ti to our attention
by mickeygirl Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:32 am
Hello, Yes I have been scammed out of money I did not have. I borrowed it. I was contacted by a Jeffrey Albertson. Very convincing man. Sent $750.00 on 11-4-2008. Sent it to Canada to an Amy Wells. Oh I am sure she or someone picked the moneygram up. Was contacted by the accounts supervisor on Nov. 5 and was told that the private lender had re-evaluated my loan and that for another 750 dollars I would be able to get my loan. Mr. Russell, the loan supervisor asured me that this was not a scam and that there was no other lender willing to deal with me and my poor credit. Not only do I have bad credit but I am out money I did not have. This has to be stopped!!!!!! I will do anything necessary to prevent some other person from being dupped. I am in the process of contacting my states Attorney General. PLEASE BE AWARE OF THIS FRAUD!!!!! the scammers are using CLEARVIEW LENDING SERVICES 7335 SAND LAKES RD. ORLANDO FL 32819THE PHONE NUMBER THEY USED IN MY CASE IS 866-504-3148 WITH A FAX NO. OF 407-650-3400. i AM ASHAMED TO SAY I WAS SCAMMED. I FEEL LIKE AN INCREDIBLE FOOL.
by cagedbird714 Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:47 am
Mickeygirl, there is no reason for you to feel stupid. People are in times of need and unfortunately almost every person here who has posted got scammed. So call us a special fraternity/sorority but this is a widespread issue. I have contacted all the people in Florida -- The BBB, IC3, Consumer Affairs, The Attorney Generals Office and the Secret Service (and I live in NJ!!!) and the only thing we can hope is that they get caught and really soon because I know the cycle for these company pretty good now and I did some research and this has been going on for quite some time. I actually got some info on a company that did the same thing in 2007. So this is nothing new and it will continue until someone really gets them good. Just one question -- Did you first apply for a loan through Lending Tree?

mickeygirl wrote:Hello, Yes I have been scammed out of money I did not have. I borrowed it. I was contacted by a Jeffrey Albertson. Very convincing man. Sent $750.00 on 11-4-2008. Sent it to Canada to an Amy Wells. Oh I am sure she or someone picked the moneygram up. Was contacted by the accounts supervisor on Nov. 5 and was told that the private lender had re-evaluated my loan and that for another 750 dollars I would be able to get my loan. Mr. Russell, the loan supervisor asured me that this was not a scam and that there was no other lender willing to deal with me and my poor credit. Not only do I have bad credit but I am out money I did not have. This has to be stopped!!!!!! I will do anything necessary to prevent some other person from being dupped. I am in the process of contacting my states Attorney General. PLEASE BE AWARE OF THIS FRAUD!!!!! the scammers are using CLEARVIEW LENDING SERVICES 7335 SAND LAKES RD. ORLANDO FL 32819THE PHONE NUMBER THEY USED IN MY CASE IS 866-504-3148 WITH A FAX NO. OF 407-650-3400. i AM ASHAMED TO SAY I WAS SCAMMED. I FEEL LIKE AN INCREDIBLE FOOL.
by cagedbird714 Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:58 pm
How many people actually filed a complaint with the BBB regarding CedarBrook Lending? I got a confirmation from their site about my complaint and it showed only one which was mine. Of course it came back undeliverable. I checked Clearview Lending and they have 35 complaints and they were still operating full scale when CedarBrook vanished. I am not going down without a fight.
by Ralph Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:35 pm
Welcome Mickey Girl,

I would rather you had found our site under different circumstances but unfortunately that is not the case.

CagedBird is completely right, you are no fool, just a victim of an elaborate scam, please read through the other posts in this thread for information on protecting yourself from further loss.

For the moment, reporting and talking about what has happened is the best thing to do, after protecting yourself from losing more money that is
by crimefighter Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:04 pm
Hello, I was scammed also. I was scammed by Clearview Lending Services who also sounds like the same people running Cedarbrook. This guys are good and they took me for $1,800.00. I too had been approved for a $5000 loan, was asked to send $910 via moneygram. I was called next day and told I had to submit another $910 in order to receive a loan. Well I wired the other money, then I was called and told the company backed out of the loan and that they were going to sue the company for any expenses I incurred as a result of this loan. Well I never received the loan nor the papers for my refund. I did however receive the loan papers and other documents. I did do a search of the BBB but when I went out there nothing appeared under their name. I also did a search on them and nothing came up but my sister went into the ripoffreport and that's where she found them under Prime Capital. However it was too late. I have reported them to the Canadian authorities as well as the authorities in Florida. The Florida police did investigate and stated the address was a construction site where a strip mall was going up. The phone number he said looked as though it was coming from Michigan but because the money was wired to Canada, the authorities there would have to persue the woman picking up the money. It's a shame that people pray on those with bad credit and it appears this is what they did. I know I can't get that money back but seeing them put to justice would be worth all the money I lost. Live and learn and know that God will take care of them. :oh-joy:

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