Is this a scam? We have been taken before and scared.

I have put below the email which pretty much sums up the details of what has happened to us. This person is in Hong Kong and asking for a Surety Bond. Any input is greatly appreciated. Please read from the bottom up.

Mrs.Michele Sayetta,
In as much as a bond is needed for the security of the investor's funds,my word is also my bond.I do not promise what i cannot fulfill.

I expect that the part payment be sent using western union in two installments using the below information:

NAME OF RECEIVER:TOM WILLIAMS
HONG-KONG.

Kindly send your bank information as soon as possible.

Do have a wonderful weekend.

Abdul Rahman Alwaleed.


> Thank you kind Sir and I do understand, there has to be security. I
> am going to see what I can get done over the weekend by offering a
> sale on products from our primary business. I appreciate your
> kindness and how do I send you the funds since it is half of what is
> needed for the bond? I am putting all of my trust in you for our
> family and I thank you.
>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suliman Al-Rahji Group
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 1:41 PM
> To: Michele
> Subject: Re: FW: FW: URGENT
>
> Mrs.Michele Sayetta,
> 1.I am deeply touched and moved by your fruitless efforts in the hands
> of some investors/lenders.
>
> 2.That you are about to lose the property makes it more disturbing.
>
> Having said that,it is impossible to give out a loan no matter how
> small without a bond in place.That is the only guarantee that we have
> in respect to the security of the funds.
>
> But considering your plight,we can accept a part payment of half of
> the total bond fee and the rest to be deducted from the loan amount
> prior to disbursement.
>
> If that is agreeable,fine and good.
>
> Abdul Rahman Alwaleed.
>
>
>
>
>> I am also attached documents from Dubai regarding the failed
>> transaction and we believe that these people have scammed the money
>> from Dubai as they have received (per the attached letter) but never
>> followed through with funding (I have spoken to 4 other people that
>> never got their funding either). I humbly ask for help for our
>> family.
>>

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michele [mailto:
>> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 1:08 PM
>> To: 'John Crews'
>> Subject: RE: FW: URGENT
>>
>> Oh goodness, I just copied you on the email to him. The Investor
>> that failed on us was working with Muslim's as well as we even
>> received documentation from Al Sharif Advocates and Legal Counsels
>> and we believe they have taken the money from the Mulsims and have
>> now run with that. I have attached a copy of that letter for you
>> too. We believe that his countrymen have been scammed as well, it is
>> an unbelievable mess. We have been trying to reach the Al Sharif
>> Advocates to report this but have been unable to do so.

>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Crews [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 1:01 PM
>> To: Michele
>> Subject: Re: FW: URGENT
>>
>> Michele,
>> I have been dealing with these people for years.If you had told me
>> from the beginning your financial situation,i would have given you
>> some advice on how to go about it.I am a broker and working for a
>> commission which i am entitled from the investor.The investor is as
>> interested in the interest annually as you are in receiving the loan.
>>
>> If you assure him of paying the balance upon receipt of the $1.5M,he
>> will work with you.Let him know how much you can send now and plead
>> with him.Though he is a Muslim but he is meek and have the fear of God.
>>
>> Do that and get back immediately.
>> John
>>
>> On 9/27/13, > wrote:
>>> John, do you think he will work with us?

>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: John Crews [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 12:47 PM
>>> To: Michele
>>> Subject: Re: FW: URGENT
>>>
>>> Michele,
>>> It's so sad.I wish you had listened to me initially you would long
>>> have been funded.
>>>
>>> But if you can appeal to the bank to give you till Wednesday next
>>> week,you can have the funds in your account and pay for the property.
>>>
>>> All you need do right now is to appeal to Abdul Rahman Alwaleed and
>>> tell him how much you have for the bond.Tell him that once you
>>> receive the funds,you will send the balance to him.
>>>
>>> I wish you told me this earlier,i would have long given you this
>>> advice.
>>>
>>> Get back asap.
>>> John
>>>
>>> On 9/27/13, Michele <wrote:
>>>> I am pretty sure we have lost the property, the bank wants it
>>>> funded as of Monday and not possible. I cannot come up with the
>>>> 18,000. I have arranged to have my horses picked up next week and
>>>> taken to a dealer to be sold and we are scrambling to try and find
>>>> a place to live. Very very upset at the moment with the other failed Investor...
>>>> How can people do this to families, I don't understand.
>>>>

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: John Crews [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:44 AM
>>>> To: Michele
>>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: FW: URGENT
>>>>
>>>> Michele,
>>>> Just checking to know if you are okay.
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> On 9/25/13, Michele <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Ok, I just received it.

>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: John Crews [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:32 AM
>>>>> To: Michele
>>>>> Subject: Re: FW: URGENT
>>>>>
>>>>> Michele,
>>>>> How are you today? I have been informed by Alwaleed that they have
>>>>> communicated the agreement to you.Like i mentioned yesterday,as
>>>>> soon as the deed of agreement is signed by you and Alwaleed,the
>>>>> rest process is
>>>> easy.
>>>>>
>>>>> As always,i am encouraging you to fulfil your part and the loan
>>>>> will be made available to you.If the agreement is signed today and
>>>>> the bond paid as instructed,by next week,you should receive the
>>>>> money in your account as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/24/13, Michele <> wrote:
>>>>>> Ok, I am just waiting to hear back from him with the documents.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: John Crews [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:41 PM
>>>>>> To: Michele
>>>>>> Subject: Re: FW: URGENT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michele,
>>>>>> I assure you that once the bond fee is paid by you,and
>>>>>> confirmed,within 3 days,the funds will be in your account.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do not delay in signing and returning the agreement to Abdul
>>>>>> Alwaleed tomorrow because the investor will not release the funds
>>>>>> without the agreement being signed by both parties.Abdul Alwaleed
>>>>>> is representing the investor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/24/13, Michele <> wrote:
>>>>>>> I sure hope so.... We are on the street if this falls through
>>>>>>> as I have no more options from the bank holding the property.

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: John Crews [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:19 PM
>>>>>>> To: Michele
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: FW: URGENT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michele,
>>>>>>> Thanks.You have done the right thing and you will not regret it.
>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/24/13, Michele <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> FYI...

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Michele [mailto:]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:07 PM
>>>>>>>> To: '[email protected]'
>>>>>>>> Subject: FW: URGENT
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi there~
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am seeking an investor for a property purchase and seeking
>>>>>>>> 1.5 million to purchase the said property. We have been
>>>>>>>> scammed by an Investor and we have a lot at stake. I have
>>>>>>>> attached our Exeucitve Summary and please let me know if you
>>>>>>>> have any questions and we hope to work with you.
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: John Crews [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:55 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Michele
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: URGENT
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Michele,
>>>>>>>> I read and understood your mail.I am a christian Michele,and it
>>>>>>>> will profit me nothing to gain the world and perish in hell.I
>>>>>>>> have been with Abdul Alwaleed and his investors for years.They
>>>>>>>> have never betrayed anyone and your case will not be
>>>>>>>> different.They are the most honest and sincere people i have
>>>>>>>> ever met
>> in my life.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kindly contact the company so that they can advice you on how
>>>>>>>> to make the payment.But before then,Abdul Rahman Alwaleed must
>>>>>>>> send a draft agreement to you for your endorsement.All the
>>>>>>>> terms and conditions will reflect on the agreement.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you sign and return the agreement by tomorrow and the bond
>>>>>>>> fee paid by Thursday,the confirmation and subsequent release of
>>>>>>>> the funds will not exceed Tuesday or Wednesday next week.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trust me Michele.
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/24/13, Michele < wrote:
>>>>>>>>> John, I have to say that I am really nervous about this. Our
>>>>>>>>> family is faced with having to move after a previous Investor
>>>>>>>>> (Wall Street Investing
>>>>>>>>> Group) ran with money and disappeared, we are tapped. My last
>>>>>>>>> resort is the go to family and I am really gun shy at this point.
>>>>>>>>> The well being of family is at stake as we are currently
>>>>>>>>> living on the property that we are trying to purchase and we
>>>>>>>>> were supposed to close last Monday and the bank will no longer wait.
>>>>>>>>> We have also lost
>>>>>>>>> $25,000 of our earnest money as well as the $40,000 we have
>>>>>>>>> put into rehabbing the property. Really gun shy!

>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: John Crews [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:33 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: Michele
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: URGENT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Michele,
>>>>>>>>> First,it will take say 3 days to confirm the deposit.Upon
>>>>>>>>> confirmation of deposit,the bond is immediately issued and a
>>>>>>>>> copy sent to you as well for your records.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Once the bond is issued,the investor releases the
>>>>>>>>> funds.Therefore,the release of the funds is upon the
>>>>>>>>> confirmation of the
>>>>>> deposit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/13, Michele <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> But how quickly is it sent after the deposit is made?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: John Crews [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:08 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Michele
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: URGENT
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Michele,
>>>>>>>>>> It takes 3 working days(72 hours) to confirm the funds in
>>>>>>>>>> your account.
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/13, Michele <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> John, how long does the funding take after purchase of the
>>>>>>>>>>> bond?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: John Crews [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:36 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Michele
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: URGENT
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Michele,
>>>>>>>>>>> Find Below the insurance company information:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tugu Insurance Company Limited Hong-Kong.
>>>>>>>>>>> Contact Person:
>>>>>>>>>>> Mr.William Mg
>>>>>>>>>>> General Manager
>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: +852 8170 0257
>>>>>>>>>>> E-mail:[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The above insurance company will be responsible for the
>>>>>>>>>>> issuance of the insurance bond.The 1% insurance bond fee
>>>>>>>>>>> goes to them and not Abdul Rahman Alwaleed nor anyone
>>>>>>>>>>> else.Should the investor fails to fund you after the payment
>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>> $18,000
>>>>>>>>>>> (1%) insurance bond covering the $1.8M loan,the insurance
>>>>>>>>>>> company will refund your bond fee.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You can contact them and get back asap.
>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/13, Michele <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the name of the company and contact details please.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: John Crews [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:57 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Michele
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: URGENT
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Michele,
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can deal directly with the insurance company if that is
>>>>>>>>>>>> okay with you.
>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/19/13, John Crews <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michele,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We do not compel anyone.One thing is for sure,people do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have worked with Suliman Al-Rahji Group for nearly 15
>>>>>>>>>>>>> years.I have known Abdul Rahman Alwaleed as the business
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sector manager of Suliman Al-Rahji Group.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wish you luck Michele.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/19/13, Michele <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John, nevermind, I did some research anf realized that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Abdul is associated with scams.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: John Crews [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 3:33 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Michele
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Fwd: URGENT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michele,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just read your mail.We still have funding options
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available.The investor is still willing as long as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terms and conditions for the funding are met.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindly contact the investor's representative with below
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> details so that they can process and release the funding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Abdul Rahman Alwaleed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email:[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel.:+85 2819 28494
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John

I read this far and determined that it is a scam.

I expect that the part payment be sent using western union in two installments using the below information:

No legitimate lending firm would ash for an up front payment via Western Union.


Please edit your original post to remove your personal information.

I guess I bought into it because he agreed to do half of the bond amount and then the rest would be paid when the loan was funded. I could not find anything reported on this guy either which got my hopes up. I guess we are going to be evicted at this point, we are in financial ruin due to dishonest people....

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I'm sorry to say that nothing about this offer and set up sounds regular. I understand that you're in a desperate situation, but the last thing you need is to lose even more money.

No legitimate lender would ever ask for an up front fee to make a loan. Their fees and costs form part of the repayment schedule and, as already mentioned, using Western Union makes it clear that you aren't even dealing with a company and that you have been told nothing but a pack of lies.

Having worked in banking before I retired I have to say that this person you're dealing with knows some technical terms but doesn't use them in any way that makes sense.

In as much as a bond is needed for the security of the investor's funds,my word is also my bond

Only a scammer would say this. It's unprofessional and sloppy, technically and legally incorrect and suggests very strongly that you are dealing with someone who has no clue as to what they're talking about.

I appreciate that you're in a desperate situation, but losing more money to a scammer won't help.

Paying a fee to obtain a bond to secure a loan for a much higher amount is a fantasy only existing in the minds of scammers. Being in a desperate situation makes you the perfect target for this criminal. His fake sympathy is disgusting to read.

Thank you and I am running far away. I am going to just have to give up the property and get our family and horses moved/sold and try and recover from the financial loss. What a mess.... BUT, thank you to everyone here.

Can anyone tell me what is WhoisGuard? Is that to keep the location of the ISP private to in other words keeping it from being figured out?

That's correct anxious1.

It's a method to hide the identity of the Registrant, in other words the owner of the website.

Why would anyone wish to do that ?

Agreed.... Sigh, so very frustrating what people do.

I just found this too!



Please find the names and contacts of a new Scan that has just surfaced here in the Middle East and is now using a respectable Saudi Prince.

We had spent $299 to register at "Angel Investment Network" or also called: "Middle East Investment Network". I received a few "investment leads" but most importantly it opened us up to a very Professional Scam. Please beware of the following names...

Mr. John Crews – Somewhere?? – RESULTS: He responded from our Angel Investment Network advertisement. He claims he is an Investment Broker and he is the one that gave me the name of: Suliman Al-Rajhi Group. This is the famous Mr. Abdul Rahman Alwaleed that maybe led us to our famous “Prince Abdullah” and finally to our now famous: “Mr. Lo Ka Shui” of “HSBC Private Banking” and this great professional scam!!

“Suliman Al Rajhi Group” – “Mr. Abdul Rahman Alwaleed” – Riyadh. RESULTS: This Company was recommended by Mr. John Crews and I truly feel he was part of this professional Scam. I was in contact with Abdul Rahman Alwaleed and he asked for all the CELERO Investment materials. A few days later I was told that Al Rajhi was not interested but a “Senior and very private member of our business credit committee who was in possession of investment monies.” Very private, etc. This was received and replied to on 8/14. Then no word from him for three days. Then I received an e-mail from “Prince Abdullah”.

“Prince Abdullah bin Musaad bin Abdulaziz Al Saud” RESULTS: On the 8/13th he sent his first e-mail introducing himself. Asked for the investment documentation again. Then replied and said that he liked our investment proposal. And would send us an Agreement to look over and sign. He was the one that recommended Mr. Lo Ka Shui of HSBC in order for him to make his $2.0 million USD investment directly to our new account at HSBC Hong Kong.

“HSBC Private Banking Section” – Mr. Lo Ka Shui RESULTS: His first e-mail was very straight forward and professional. The application was straight-forward and the required transfer of $5,000. Did not raise my suspicion as I thought if it were a scam it would have been much more!! The application was completed and forwarded to “HSBC” and then the deposit was forwarded on Tuesday night 9/17. It left Amman on the 18th! This bank transfer was stopped and thank goodness returned to my account!!

Be very careful...I wasn't and I almost lost $5,000. USD in the process!!

Thomas L. Webber
CELERO Franchise Investment Group, Ltd.