Room for Rent and other rental scams
by NY2010resident Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:57 pm
The reply goes to : [email protected]
Enquiry about your rental on craigslist
Monday, October 8, 2012
From: "[email protected]" annptty <[email protected]>
To: @hous.craigslist.org
Hello
I saw your ad,I'd like to know if you are not commited to any renter. I'm relocating,i have been looking for a place for the past week,About me,I am a single female ,clean,respectful and pretty quiet. I am a 27 yr old working occupational health nurse. I have a great personality and am easy to get along
with. I am clean,I do not have pets but i'm pet friendly,do not drink,smoke nor participate with drugs .I would make an excellent tenant/roommate,as i always pay my rent before anything else. I am open to almost any type of lease .If there is anything you think i should know about the about the place and
neighbourhood, please do tell ,as i'll write about me too. I have a Car too.
Thank You
Ann-Kathy
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by NY2010resident Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:00 pm
I replied back to this email address [email protected] and the scammer replied from this account : [email protected].

From: [email protected]
TO:
Wednesday, October 10, 2012

Hi,
I do appreciate your response, Thank you for getting back to me. I know it is very important to know about the person looking to rent. So this is a little about me.
I am Ann-kathy patterson. I am half Canadian/American,dad's from there and mom from Idaho,i lost my parent in a accident( i dont like talking about that again), I am a friendly 27 year old single lady,I work as an occupational health Nurse and my job is about educating employee on treatment,follow-up and referrals.
I am very respectful of others' space and opinions,I strive for a drama free environment. I am quiet friendly down to earth and easy to get along with,I'm pet friendly but do not own one nor do i plan on having any. I clean up after myself,I do not do drugs,smoke ,no late nights. I am person that will respect your space and rules.
I am also concerned about wellness and i practice yoga i did 6months course on wellness in india,I might even consider teaching yoga if my schedule permits me or if i am able to rent a space.
I just got back to Idaho,and presently at my uncle's house here in idaho,so basically this is my first time renting and i had this massive break up,It really got to me,as i was not expecting it,but let me not bore you with the story of my life,so that is one of the reasons of my moving, because i understand that time wait for no one. I am relocating to experience something new in my career and my life so i wont be able to see the place right away
I am looking to secure a place then i start looking around for something physical at any hospital/company there . Paying rent on time will never be a problem as i will also be making the rent fee as at when due and i will pay in advance if required,However,my uncle will be incharge of all fees until i can get something physical. So please email me back if you are looking to rent out now, pictures of me will be attach in the next email,let me know if you i am someone you'd like to rent to. And do let me know the total cost required if i am looking to secure it now and please tell me more about you and the place
I will provide my number so we can exchange messages as soon as i am sure you'd be renting to me
Thanks for your time and i await your next email.

Ann-kathy
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by englishrose Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:56 pm
WHY IS THIS A SCAM? YOU DONT SAY....
NY2010resident wrote:I replied back to this email address [email protected] and the scammer replied from this account : [email protected].

From: [email protected]
TO:
Wednesday, October 10, 2012 1:18 AM

Hi,
I do appreciate your response, Thank you for getting back to me. I know it is very important to know about the person looking to rent. So this is a little about me.
I am Ann-kathy patterson. I am half Canadian/American,dad's from there and mom from Idaho,i lost my parent in a accident( i dont like talking about that again), I am a friendly 27 year old single lady,I work as an occupational health Nurse and my job is about educating employee on treatment,follow-up and referrals.
I am very respectful of others' space and opinions,I strive for a drama free environment. I am quiet friendly down to earth and easy to get along with,I'm pet friendly but do not own one nor do i plan on having any. I clean up after myself,I do not do drugs,smoke ,no late nights. I am person that will respect your space and rules.
I am also concerned about wellness and i practice yoga i did 6months course on wellness in india,I might even consider teaching yoga if my schedule permits me or if i am able to rent a space.
I just got back to Idaho,and presently at my uncle's house here in idaho,so basically this is my first time renting and i had this massive break up,It really got to me,as i was not expecting it,but let me not bore you with the story of my life,so that is one of the reasons of my moving, because i understand that time wait for no one. I am relocating to experience something new in my career and my life so i wont be able to see the place right away
I am looking to secure a place then i start looking around for something physical at any hospital/company there . Paying rent on time will never be a problem as i will also be making the rent fee as at when due and i will pay in advance if required,However,my uncle will be incharge of all fees until i can get something physical. So please email me back if you are looking to rent out now, pictures of me will be attach in the next email,let me know if you i am someone you'd like to rent to. And do let me know the total cost required if i am looking to secure it now and please tell me more about you and the place
I will provide my number so we can exchange messages as soon as i am sure you'd be renting to me
Thanks for your time and i await your next email.

Ann-kathy
by NY2010resident Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:09 pm
TO MEMBER "englishrose". SCROLL AND READ BELOW. :)

The reply back goes to : [email protected]
let me secure it! (did you get my pics)
FROM: annpatty <[email protected]>
TO:
Wednesday, October 10, 2012

Hi again,

Thanks for getting back to me,So you know dear,I have alot to do and i still have to go to canada before flying over.I just want to secure a place before i start making my plans and travels. I want to secure the place before i start making my travel plans
I know we have only met but people meet somehow,and i feel we will get along very well,and you will know that i am a fun good person,I understand it isnt easy renting without meeting but the situation that i am in isnt giving me chance,You'll see that and i believe that we will be good,I am also concern about not be able to see the place but i really feel comfortable reading from you
I want you to know that i am okay with the place,I will not want to look any further,Since i can not just set off and leave here when i do not have a place secured I have also thought on how to secure the place and the most comfortable way for me of making payment to hold down the place is the most acceptable,safer and reliable means of payment which is a certified check,

So please provide me with the following information to get the payment to you,
Your full name as it will appear on the payment,and address to ensure delivery and let me know if you prefer regular mails or a courier service,and phone number on the package to avoid package missing in transit

And to let you know it is not that i have bunch of things, just my car and my personal effects,I also want you to know that if i secure the place now,i can move on formally with my plans,please understand.
I know almost everyone does the facebooking thing but i am not a fan but if you do want me to open one,i could consider it
Please do let me know and provide me with the information needed as i want to get this sorted out my travelling plans.
Feel free to ask me any question(s) you have okay,well my cell (208) 352-3697(i only have text plan now)

Thanks again.

Ann-kathy
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by pretsb Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:09 pm
Wow, I got the exact same email. I'm glad I found this website. I've been getting nothing but scam emails in reply to my post for a room rental . This lady even sent me some pictures of hers to ensure it wasn't a fraud
by jewelyi Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:34 pm
YES, SHE CONTACTED ME AS WELL. SEE THE EMAILS BELOW:


On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 1:37 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi,

Thank you for getting back to me. I know it is very important to know about the person looking to rent. So this is a little about me. My names Ann patterson. a canadian-american, dad's from there and mom from Idaho, my parent are no more. but i do have a very close uncle. I am a friendly 27 year old single lady,I work as an occupational health Nurse and my job is about educating employee on treatment,follow-up and referrals.I am very respectful of others' space and opinions,I strive for a drama free environment. I am quiet, friendly, down to earth and easy to get along with, i'm pet friendly but do not own one nor do i plan on having any. I clean up after myself, I do not do drugs,smoke , drink nor keep late nights. I am person that will respect your space and rules. I should let you know that i d practice yoga as i did 6months course in india and i plan teaching it later. I got back to Idaho not too long ,For someone like me looking to experience something new in her career and a friend told me about the state and i think it is my best choice. I know you'd wonder why i am a single, well had this massive break up, i was not expecting it,but let me not bore you with the story of my life,so that are the reasons of my moving, because i understand that time wait for no one. and i wont be able to see the place right away. I am looking to secure a place so i start looking around for something physical there .I am financially stable as i am contracted to a hospital doing online assessment ,so paying rent on time will never be a problem as i will also be making the rent fee as at when due and my uncle will serve as reference and will serve as financial backup if it needed be,he works with ashley furnitures.
So please email me back if you are looking to rent out now, pictures of me will be attach in the next email, let me know if you i am someone you'd like to rent to. And do let me know the total cost required if i am looking to secure it now and please tell me more about you and the place
I will provide my number so we can exchange messages as soon as i am sure you'd be renting to me

Thanks for your time and i await your next email.

ann


[AND THE SECOND EMAIL CAME WITH TWO PICTURES OF A BLONDE ATTACHED.]


[email protected]

11:11 AM (8 hours ago)

to me
Hi

Thank you for getting back to me, I really hope you understand my situation?I would have loved to see the place too but i do not think i would be able to come down there and back here to idaho and finish the things i have left to do. Though i am okay with the place and the rent fee too, i believe you are a nice person too and i believe that the people that are around us matters most. My pictures are being attached in this email.
I wouldnt want to loose the place for anything else, am just looking to secure a place now and start with my moving preparation, i still have alot to do , start forwarding my mails and all. I will be able to give you a move in date and other information you may required and I do want you to know that i have a dresser,computer table,kitchen utensils and 2 big luggages and my car that i would love to shipped, do let me know if they will fit or i should leave behind. But my Toyota Camry is a must because i just bought it. So do let me know.
Please do send me an email as soon as you get this and do Feel free to ask me any question(s) you have okay.

Thanks once again.

ann.

BEWARE: SCAMMER:
1) NOTICE THAT THE EMAIL HAS CHANGED ONCE AGAIN;
2) AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE EMAILS, ENGLISH IS NOT HER FIRST LANGUAGE;
3) SHE HAS AGREED TO RENT WITHOUT MEETING IN PERSON OR EVEN TALKING ON THE PHONE;
4) I'VE SCOURED THE INTERNET AND HAVEN'T FOUND A SINGLE PIECE OF INFORMATION UNDER THAT NAME, WHICH IS INCREDIBLY UNLIKELY FOR A YOUNG PROFESSIONAL LIVING IN THE STATES.
by Jesus H Christ Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:54 am
Yes! Thank you for this information. I received a nearly identical message today! Went onto google to research this person and your listing came up- thanks for the data, this bitch is definitely not legit. Here is a copy of the email I received. For the record, I was trying to sublet in central Massachusetts. <profanity removed - Michelle> is going nationwide, huh?

Hi,

Thank you for getting back to me. I know it is very important to know about the person looking to rent. So this is a little about me. My names Ann patterson. a canadian-american, dad's from there and mom from Idaho, my parent are no more. but i do have a very close uncle. I am a friendly 27 year old single lady(single unusual but i just had this break up with my boyfriend, I should let you know that am fun but i am carrier oriented too, I work as an occupational health Nurse and my job is about educating employee on treatment,follow-up and referrals.I am very respectful of others' space and opinions,I strive for a drama free environment. I am quiet, friendly, down to earth and easy to get along with, i'm pet friendly but do not own one nor do i plan on having any. I clean up after myself, I do not do drugs,smoke , drink nor keep late nights. I am person that will respect your space and rules. I should let you know that i d practice yoga as i did 6months course in india and i plan teaching it later. I am presently in Idaho ,For someone like me looking to experience something new in her career, i consider moving though i do not have family or friends there ,for me to have survived india i believe and i can there and i hope you will take me as a friend atleast. There breakup was unexpected, and i cant stand a cheat, Its one of the reason i considered moving and time wait for no one. Moreover i am moving as i want to do something on my own without help from my uncle, I just pray i rent from a good person and am looking to secure a place so i start looking around for something physical there .I am financially stable as i am contracted to a hospital doing online assessment ,so paying rent on time will never be a problem as i will also be making the rent fee as at when due and my uncle will serve as reference also as financial backup if it needed be.
So please email me back if you are looking to rent out now, pictures of me will be attach in the next email, let me know if you i am someone you'd like to rent to. I will provide my number so we can exchange messages as soon as i am sure you'd be renting to me and we can work something out and any additional information will be appreciated.
Thanks for your time and i await your next email.
by abobo1976 Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:57 pm
I have been responding to this person for the last 2 weeks..I have a property in Las Vegas that I'm trying to rent out...same exact emails, sob story, pics, etc. The final outcome is that I received the MONEY ORDERS yesterday..3 of them for $900 each..(That would mean the deposit and 2 months rent) too good to be true right? Well it was..I get an email this morning saying that the shipment of her things got somehow messed up and she needs me to wire via western union $1200 to resolve the matter. I told her I don't think that its a good idea because I want to keep our relationship strictly landlord and tenant. Then I googled the name and all of this popped up...imagine I would have been at lost of $1200...who can afford that!! Oh yeah, I called Money Gram to verify the validity of the money orders and it turns out that they are duplicate who have been cashed earlier this year!! People are amazing!!
by Bubbles Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:17 am
Welcome to ScamWarners abobo1976, it is great that you didn't cash the checks and become a victim. Thank you for posting your experience. It will help someone else.

Bubbles, former Scamwarners moderator.

Rest in Peace 24 June 2015.

Gone, but never forgotten.
by jamesbauckman Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:35 pm
Same person contacted me in WA. She contacted me in October when I first rented and assumed she was fake and then posted for room today and contacted me again with same story and nearly same email.
Crooked ass!

Here is her letter!

Hi,

Thank you for getting back to me. I know it is very important to know about the person looking to rent. So this is a little about me. My names Ann patterson. a canadian-american, dad's from there and mom from Idaho, my parent are no more. but i do have a very close uncle. I am a friendly 27 year old single lady(single unusual but i just had this break up with my boyfriend, I should let you know that am fun but i am carrier oriented too, I work as an occupational health Nurse and my job is about educating employee on treatment,follow-up and referrals.I am very respectful of others' space and opinions,I strive for a drama free environment. I am quiet, friendly, down to earth and easy to get along with, i'm pet friendly but do not own one nor do i plan on having any. I clean up after myself, I do not do drugs,smoke , drink nor keep late nights. I am person that will respect your space and rules. I should let you know that i d practice yoga as i did 6months course in india and i plan teaching it later. I am presently in Idaho ,For someone like me looking to experience something new in her career, i consider moving though i do not have family or friends there ,for me to have survived india i believe and i can there and i hope you will take me as a friend atleast. There breakup was unexpected, and i cant stand a cheat, Its one of the reason i considered moving and time wait for no one. Moreover i am moving as i want to do something on my own without help from my uncle, I just pray i rent from a good person and am looking to secure a place so i start looking around for something physical there .I am financially stable as i am contracted to a hospital doing online assessment ,so paying rent on time will never be a problem as i will also be making the rent fee as at when due and my uncle will serve as reference also as financial backup if it needed be.
So please email me back if you are looking to rent out now, pictures of me will be attach in the next email, let me know if you i am someone you'd like to rent to. I will provide my number so we can exchange messages as soon as i am sure you'd be renting to me and we can work something out and any additional information would be appreciated.
Thanks for your time and i await your next email.

ann
by englishrose Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:36 am
yeah..chick is a fraud and thief. when i responded to her i offered he a place for FREE if she just ran a few errands a week for my brother....no response....because she wanted to get someone who wanted a deposit and rent fee...so she could scam....how do u report someone like this? Her english was a definite tip off!
by Bubbles Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:12 am
Most likely not a "chick", but a young adult male living in West Africa or Malaysia who is skilled as scamming because he does it all day. If turning them in would get rid of the, we would be doing that. Scammers hide behind fake email addresses and have "mules" do their ground work (like printing and mailing checks) so they are not directly tied to the scam.

Thank you for being a member here. Please feel free to post scams you receive.

Bubbles, former Scamwarners moderator.

Rest in Peace 24 June 2015.

Gone, but never forgotten.
by socergem Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:39 am
I got this in reply to me replying to someone looking for a roommate (I have a room to rent). Clever. South shore MA.

I could tell it was a scam based on the phrasing and punctuation, but good to have confirmation. Sadly all I have gotten is spam.
by Nikil365 Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:35 am
I got the same email although now she is using email: [email protected] and Goes by the name Ann Kathleen Cartier. So glad I did a search online before offering her a place. Thanks to everyone who has posted and saved me from potentially getting scammed.
by jenhullusa Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:38 pm
OMG, I ALMOST FELL FOR HER SCAM. I READ ALL THE POSTS AND SHE WRITES EVERYONE THE SAME EXACT THING. I'M SO HURT THAT A PERSON WOULD BE SO LOW. I HAVE CORRESPONDED WITH HER VIA EMAIL FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND I WOULD HAVE TAKEN HER IN AND TREATED HER LIKE A DAUGHTER, I HAD A QUERY DONE ON HER AND NOTHING COME UP UNDER THE NAME, ANN KATHLEEN CARTIER WITH HER ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER OF 208-843-8505. ACCORDING TO HER, HER PHONE CAN ONLY DO TEXT. I'VE NEVER HEARD OF A PHONE THAT ONLY DOES TEXT. BEWARE.

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