Room for Rent and other rental scams
by ROAlex Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:29 am
I believe that this person ("Stanley Alan" <[email protected]>) is the same rental/deposit scam'er who went by the name Ralph Nude in March 2012.
He used the same pictures he used as a previous rental scam which i coincidentally happened to reply to so this morning when i saw the same house I was like WTF.

WARNING: he is advertising an additional place for rent (in Bloemfontein).
I replied to The gumtree add for his 1bedroom house in CAPE TOWN however the 1st email i received has the same title except Cape town was now Bloemfontein) - Had the same application/deposit form, rental amounts and similar style.

My email to "Stanley" this morning obviously got no reply:
Hi Stanley,

Excuse me if I was mistaken but I'm a bit confused, your add which I replied to was a 1 bedroom in Cape Town - how come it is now Bloemfontein?
Attached is the reason for my concern.

Regards,
Rachael
- - - - -
the previous name was :bowdown: Pastor Ralph and his wife Becky:[email protected]
+447024028128
http://www.limuk.org
1 Oldfield Court,8 Oldfield Road cape town (advertised property)

the email he sent me TODAY with app form and requesting the deposit to secure the place and ensuring that he ships the keys is below and the first one from March is below that :

>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your response,I am Stanley Alan the owner of the 1 bedroom you are making inquiry of, I am presently working in Manchester,England and i will be here till next year when i will be relocatting to germany for 3 years contract,presently my place is available for rent and all utilities are included.
>>> Pls i want you to note that, I am a kind and honest man and also i spent a lot on my property, so i will solicit for your absolute maintenance of my place,please understand that the rental fee is not my problem but i want you to keep my place tidy at all times, hope we have an understanding.I want a tenant i can trust so i will ask for you to tell me more about yourself,your previous renting experience.
>>> My place fully furnished,it is well decorated,it comes with washer dryer,Air conditioner,lovely walk in bathroom with shower,the kitchen is
>>> conveniently equipped with Dishwasher,oven,microwave,coffee maker,kettle,TV with cable channels and Internet access (broadband) and all kitchen
>>> utensils needed for cooking,with two covered packing space.
>>>
>>> My place is located at :Arboretum, 2 The Waterfall, 2 Collins St .Bloemfontein
>>>
>>> I have an extra storage room where you can keep your furniture,should you want to move in with your property,i love pets so your pets are welcome,i am renting my place for R3000 monthly,so if i accept you as my new tenant you will be making total payment of R6000 (That is two months rent + security deposit R3000 and you will get a month free) I want to be sure that you are ready to rent and not just making inquiry if you are not ready to rent please do not contact me again,i only expect people who are ready to rent.Pictures of my place have been attached to this email ok....
>>>
>>> Fill the rental application below.....

(MARCH):

Hello Beloved,
Thank you for responding to my 1bedroom advert,my wife and i are based in England,we are Pastors here we miniter in The Lighthouse,I am Pastor Ralph Nuel and my wife is Becky.
We want to rent our place out to nice people who can take very good care of it for us,there is no one there at the moment,so we decided to rent it out to (ONLY GOOD PEOPLE).
It is fully furnished,it is well decorated,it comes with washer dryer,Air conditioner,lovely walk in bathroom with shower,the kitchen is conveniently equipped with Dishwasher,oven,microwave,coffee maker,kettle,TV with cable channels and Internet access (broadband) and all kitchen utensils needed for cooking,with two covered packing space.
It is Located at:1 Oldfield Court,8 Oldfield Road cape town
We have an extra storage room where you can keep our furniture,should you want to move in with your properties,we are pet lovers so your pets are welcome,and we are renting our place for R3000 monthly,so if we accept you as our new tenant you will be making total payment of R9000 (That is two months rent deposit R6000) and then security deposit R3000 (Refundable at the end of the month)
Before you get the rental application i want to be sure that you are ready to rent and not just making inquiry,our place is available for rent now.
Email my wife becky on [email protected] for the rental application,please fill it and email it back to her asap so we can get the ball rolling ok
I have attached pictures of our place and two of our picures.


Pastor Ralph
Call me on +447024028128
http://www.limuk.org
__________________________________
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by Karina Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:41 am
This "pastor" is going by the name of John S Allan now - January 2013.
I enquired about the 1 bed apartment in Cape Town, below is the reply i received.
I decided to google the name of the apartment and came across this warning.
If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.


Hello Dear,

I am glad to know that you love my place,I own the one bedroom you want to rent,i am seeking a good tenant to rent my place and help me take very good care of it for me,I am Pastor.John S Allan,i am presently doing ministry work in England,i will be here for 3 years, i entrusted my 1bedroom to my friend who was my formal agent,he would have been the one showing you my place,but he almost sold my place to a man from Germany,so that is why i am renting my place out by myself.
My place fully furnished,it is well decorated,it comes with washer dryer,oven,microwave,coffee maker,kettle,Air conditioner,lovely walk in bathroom with shower,the kitchen is conveniently equipped with Dishwasher,TV with cable channels and Internet access (broadband) and all kitchen utensils needed for cooking,with two covered packing space.my place is available for rent now and all utilities are included.
i will solicit for your absolute maintenance of my place,please understand that the rental fee is not my problem but i want you to keep my place tidy at all times, hope we have an understanding.I want a tenant i can trust so i will ask for you to tell me more about yourself,your previous renting experience.I will love to know you more so email me more about you

My place is Located at: 1 Oldfield Court,8 Oldfield Road cape


I have an extra storage room where you can keep your furniture,should you want to move in with your property,i love pets so your pets are welcome,i am renting my place for R3000 monthly,so if i accept you as my new tenant you will be making total payment of R9000 (That is two months rent + security deposit R3000 then you will get a month free)
I want to be sure that you are ready to rent and not just making inquiry if you are not ready to rent please do not contact me again,i only expect people who are ready to rent.

Pictures of my place have been attached to this email ok.....
You can call me on :+447031965046

Fill the rental application below.....


RENTAL APPLICATION
by dragon_gxy Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:37 am
Oh my god! I have already get deceived by this guy and paid R6000!!! can anybody help me? who can I go to? He gave me a phone number in England and a bank account in South Africa. Can that be used to track him down? I was so stupid and should look at this earlier.
by amw Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:04 am
i got the same BS story,:

Hello Dear,

I am glad to know that you love my place,I own the one bedroom you want to rent,i am seeking a good tenant to rent my place and help me take very good care of it for me,I am Pastor.John S Allan,i am presently doing ministry work in England,i will be here for 3 years, i entrusted my 1bedroom to my friend who was my formal agent,he would have been the one showing you my place,but he almost sold my place to a man from Germany,so that is why i am renting my place out by myself.
My place fully furnished,it is well decorated,it comes with washer dryer,oven,microwave,coffee maker,kettle,Air conditioner,lovely walk in bathroom with shower,the kitchen is conveniently equipped with Dishwasher,TV with cable channels and Internet access (broadband) and all kitchen utensils needed for cooking,with two covered packing space.my place is available for rent now and all utilities are included.
i will solicit for your absolute maintenance of my place,please understand that the rental fee is not my problem but i want you to keep my place tidy at all times, hope we have an understanding.I want a tenant i can trust so i will ask for you to tell me more about yourself,your previous renting experience.I will love to know you more so email me more about you

My place is Located at: 1 Oldfield Court,8 Oldfield Road cape


I have an extra storage room where you can keep your furniture,should you want to move in with your property,i love pets so your pets are welcome,i am renting my place for R3000 monthly,so if i accept you as my new tenant you will be making total payment of R9000 (That is two months rent + security deposit R3000 then you will get a month free)
I want to be sure that you are ready to rent and not just making inquiry if you are not ready to rent please do not contact me again,i only expect people who are ready to rent.

Pictures of my place have been attached to this email ok.....
You can call me on :+447031962595

Fill the rental application below.....


RENTAL APPLICATION


Full Name_______________________ Home Phone __________________


Date of Birth__________Current


Address____________________________________________________

For how long will you be renting_________________ When do you intend moving

in_____________________ Pets___________

Current Landlord's Name______________________


Phone #:__________________________________ How long at this


address:______________________


Reason for leaving:________________________________________________



Job Info:Present Employer_________________________________________



Phone #_____________________

Position:_________________________________________

Mo. Income:_____________________


How long at job:_____________________ Other income/source__________________________________________________________

Employers Address:______________________________________________________________


Personal References Name:_____________________


Years Known_____________________


Relationship:________________________________ Phone #_______________


I CERTIFY that answers given here by me are true and complete to the best of my knowledge.(YES/NO)________
I authorize investigation of all statements contained in this application for tenant screening as may be necessary in arriving at a tenant decision.
Do you agree to pay R9000 first two months and security deposit payment in advance before moving into the apartment (YES/NO)_____
(If u make the first two months payment you will get a month free).
I understand that the landlord may terminate any rental agreement entered for any misrepresentations made above.
Are you ready to pay the two months and security deposit of R9000 today,to get the keys and flat document shipped to your present address by 4pm tomorrow (Y/N)_____
Best of luck.
by began steele Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:45 am
I am sorry if you have sent money, but it is now lost for good to this scammer. Cut all contact and say nothing and tell him nothing. Be aware you may get mails about getting money back , but it will be a further lie, and also you may be sent more scams.You can post scams on SW just the same as you did here, even if you have any or some doubts. Please include email texts , headers if you can, and mail addresses,
but remove your own details.

We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. ~~ George Orwell.
by thepooksy1 Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:23 pm
this is not over...

Meet Rev Terry Hudson and his wife, Nino Hudson:

Hi,

Thanks for your email and it's my gladness hearing from you, am Reverend Terry i owner the property you are making inquiry of, actually I resided in the house with my family, my wife and my only daughter but presently we had packed due to my transfer from my working place and now situated in Glasgow, Scotland. Presently my house is still available for rent for 3500per month including all house utilities like hydro,washer,security and so on, it is fully Furnished!

Meanwhile, i went for a Crusade in Africa and i will like you to get in touch with my wife in Glasgow for more details about the house, as she's with the keys and the documents of the House. Please i want you to know that we're kind and honest family, we spent alot on our property's,so i will solicit for your absolute maintenance of this house and want you to treat it as your own! Its not about the money but we want you to keep it tidy all the time, so that i will be glad to see it neat when i came for a check up. I also want you to let me have trust in you as i always stand on my word.

Email my wife Nino on ( nidsonhudsonturavapraise@ hotmail.com or nidsonhudsonturavapraise@ gmail.com ) and she will attends to you better, pls make sure you send email to both address,

Thanks and you are welcome...
Regards
by Hatestupidpeople Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:12 am
I got the same email as thepooksy1!

The email was sent from email address: Reverend Hudson [[email protected]]. However, it was actually received from (nm29-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com. [98.139.213.166])

Here is the email:
Hi,

Thanks for your email and it's my gladness hearing from you, am Reverend Terry i owner the property you are making inquiry of, actually I resided in the house with my family, my wife and my only daughter but presently we had packed due to my transfer from my working place and now situated in Glasgow, Scotland. Presently my house is still available for rent for 3500per month including all house utilities like hydro,washer,security and so on, it is fully Furnished!

Meanwhile, i went for a Crusade in Africa and i will like you to get in touch with my wife in Glasgow for more details about the house, as she's with the keys and the documents of the House. Please i want you to know that we're kind and honest family, we spent alot on our property's,so i will solicit for your absolute maintenance of this house and want you to treat it as your own! Its not about the money but we want you to keep it tidy all the time, so that i will be glad to see it neat when i came for a check up. I also want you to let me have trust in you as i always stand on my word.

Email my wife Nino on ( nidsonhudsonturavapraise@ hotmail.com or nidsonhudsonturavapraise@ gmail.com ) and she will attends to you better, pls make sure you send email to both address,

Thanks and you are welcome...
Regards
by Gus Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:10 am
Thanks for the update H.s.p.
Rocketmail is part of the Yahoo! network (bought by yahoo in 1997 but only reinstated around 2008), so it's no surprise that the headers included yahoo.

I see that this scammer is covering his bases by including several different aliases across multiple providers, just shows how important it is to keep up with their fake addresses.
by 54321 Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:59 am
dragon_gxy wrote:Oh my god! I have already get deceived by this guy and paid R6000!!! can anybody help me? who can I go to? He gave me a phone number in England and a bank account in South Africa. Can that be used to track him down? I was so stupid and should look at this earlier.


Hey Dragon,

Sorry to hear about your troubles

Can you please post the bank account details of the scammer? Please post as much info as possible about scammers, so we can try to help to educate other people (and hopefully prevent them from being scammed)

How to post photos to this site http://scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3219
How to view email headers http://www.ip-adress.com/faq/view_email_header/
Use this site to track IP addresses http://www.iptrackeronline.com/index.php
by clintl Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:40 pm
I have also received a similar e-mail after responding to an ad on gumtree.co.za for an apartment in Durban, he's now using the name 'Reverend Terry'.

Email was sent from [email protected]:

Hi,

Thanks for your email and it's my gladness hearing from you, am Reverend Terry i owner the property you are making inquiry of, actually I resided in the house with my family, my wife and my only daughter but presently we had packed due to my transfer from my working place and now situated in Glasgow, Scotland. Presently my house is still available for rent for 3000per month including all house utilities like hydro,washer,security and so on, it is fully Furnished!

Meanwhile, i went for a Crusade in Africa and i will like you to get in touch with my wife in Glasgow for more details about the house, as she's with the keys and the documents of the House. Please i want you to know that we're kind and honest family, we spent alot on our property's,so i will solicit for your absolute maintenance of this house and want you to treat it as your own! Its not about the money but we want you to keep it tidy all the time, so that i will be glad to see it neat when i came for a check up. I also want you to let me have trust in you as i always stand on my word.

Email my wife Nino on ( [email protected] or [email protected] ) and she will attends to you better, pls make sure you send email to both address,

Thanks and you are welcome...
Regards
by mpumi Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:12 am
:=) I am clapping to God above because this morning when i inserted the wife who is Mrs Nino Turava Hudson [mailto:[email protected]] this information came up. My mom is relacating to Durban and looking for accomodation this morning she received this email to complete the process:

From: Mrs Nino Turava Hudson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 15 February 2013 08:56
Subject: RE: PROFILE ACCEPTED

Hi Cynthia,

Thanks for your mail. Of course to send money via money gram your details are required. I sent you a mini lease to sign and send it back to me, ddnt you get it? What documents you talking about? Note the keys and orignal documents of the house will be send to you via dhl on next day delivery.

Here are the contents of the Documents that will be deliver to you via DHL on next day delivery.

1)Entrance and the rooms Keys
2)Paper/Permanent house form (Containing your reference details)
3)The house documentary files,it include tenancy agreement you'll sign.
4)Payment Receipt.
5) Full address and description of the house.

You have nothing to be worry about, the flat is yours already.

You can also deposit the money direct to our Property lawyer's Account to avoid Money gram transfer charges?

Name: Miss Thulisile P Nkosi
Account number: 62384098119
Bank name: FNB Bank

Let me know which one suits you? And when you will be making the payment?

Thanks,
Mrs Nino

The institution she works for was the one who was going to be making payment for her from March, this is truly shocking that there are people out there who use Gods name in vain. We have sent back an email to them highlighting she is no longer relocating and therefore thanks them for trying to assist. Damn scammers
by mpumi Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:15 am
clintl wrote:I have also received a similar e-mail after responding to an ad on gumtree.co.za for an apartment in Durban, he's now using the name 'Reverend Terry'.

Email was sent from [email protected]:

Hi,

Thanks for your email and it's my gladness hearing from you, am Reverend Terry i owner the property you are making inquiry of, actually I resided in the house with my family, my wife and my only daughter but presently we had packed due to my transfer from my working place and now situated in Glasgow, Scotland. Presently my house is still available for rent for 3000per month including all house utilities like hydro,washer,security and so on, it is fully Furnished!

Meanwhile, i went for a Crusade in Africa and i will like you to get in touch with my wife in Glasgow for more details about the house, as she's with the keys and the documents of the House. Please i want you to know that we're kind and honest family, we spent alot on our property's,so i will solicit for your absolute maintenance of this house and want you to treat it as your own! Its not about the money but we want you to keep it tidy all the time, so that i will be glad to see it neat when i came for a check up. I also want you to let me have trust in you as i always stand on my word.

Email my wife Nino on ( [email protected] or [email protected] ) and she will attends to you better, pls make sure you send email to both address,

Thanks and you are welcome...
Regards


My mum was up for the same property, same email , got the house pics :cry: and theirs on their wedding day, discussions advanced so far as we where waiting for banking details luckily payroll at her work had already run that payment was not made by Feb
by mpumi Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:04 am
54321 wrote:
dragon_gxy wrote:Oh my god! I have already get deceived by this guy and paid R6000!!! can anybody help me? who can I go to? He gave me a phone number in England and a bank account in South Africa. Can that be used to track him down? I was so stupid and should look at this earlier.


Hey Dragon,

Sorry to hear about your troubles

Can you please post the bank account details of the scammer? Please post as much info as possible about scammers, so we can try to help to educate other people (and hopefully prevent them from being scammed)


Dragon was this the banking details for their supposed lawyer?
Name: Miss Thulisile P Nkosi
Account number: 62384098119
Bank name: FNB Bank
by began steele Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:13 pm
Is this all bank details? I am going for bank closure so we do need as much as possible for "de man". HEADERS IF YOU CAN and email addresses. Even if repeats here, please post. IT IS NEVER ENOUGH! :cry:

We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. ~~ George Orwell.

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