2010/7/22 *************************
From: ***************************
# Location: Portsmouth, England, United Kingdom
# Date Posted: June 13
# Price: £460
Hi i saw your advert for this 2bedroomed apartment.
Question is it actually £460 a month for the place or is it per person.
It is a beautiful apartment.
How much is the deposit?
Thanks for you time
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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:13:05 +0300
Subject: Re: Spacious 2 bed apartment.
From:
[email protected]To: *****************************
Hello,
My name is Miguel Jimenez and I am from Spain and the flat is still available for rent. I had an aunt in UK and after her death she left me her apartment from UK a few years ago.
The flat was redecorated last year and the flat is looking very nice and clean. The property has a fully furnished kitchen,clean and well tidy sitting rooms,laundry room,and fully furnished with home utilities like: electric shower, Lounge,Vacuum Cleaner,Toaster, Owen and microwave, dryer, iron, washing machine , refrigerator , dishwasher, power shower, heater, cable ready,TV set and DVD player,Internet connection, equipped kitchen and everything a house needs. I m interested in finding someone clean who can take care of this house more then getting money from renting it if you know what I mean.
Till last month the apartment was rented by some students from Germany and now they left and the apartment is available again for rent. The price I want is £460 per month,bills included and I am intrested in a long term agreement,minimum 6 month!
If you are decided to view the flat and have the money I could come in the next few days to show you the apartment and maybe sign the tenancy agreement if you like my flat(I am sure you will love it) but first I have to be sure you really do need a place to live because two weeks ago a person from Portsmouth told me he is really interested and he asked me to go to Portsmouth to meet him and sign the tenancy agreement and when I arrived there no person showed up to rent my place and I lost time and money for nothing. Please accept my apologises if I am rude but I hope you will understand me!
I will wait for your e-mail,Miguel Jimenez
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2010/7/23 ********* <*************>
Hello Miguel
I’m sorry to hear that about your auntie.
Me and my Fiancé are definitely interested as we would like our own place,
We are currently living with his parents which is nice but we need our own space as I'm sure you can understand,
Looking at the pictures it looks amazing I do have a few questions though, what area in Portsmouth is this located in, is there any parking available although neither of these things are essential. I was just wondering as my Fiancé drives and finally we own a cat and wonder if you would allow a pet in the property.
Also there is one major question. Would it be possible to hold it down till the end of next month as we wont be getting paid till then?
I hope this isnt too many questions.
We have been looking for places and havent found the right one as most places are asking for alot of money for deposit too. which is making us hold back longer.
Thanks again for your time.
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:40:34 +0300
Subject: Re: Spacious 2 bed apartment.
From:
[email protected]To: ******************
Hello,
I will attach some pictures of the flat,floor plan and also a model of the rental contract! The flat is located on Queen Street PORTSMOUTH PO1 3HL but I can`t give you the exactly address because there`s no one living out there and I`m afraid of thief's and I do apologies for this but I hope you understand me because I`m in Spain right now! The property benefits from access to beautifully maintained communal gardens and comprises reception room, kitchen with washing machine/tumble dryer, master bedroom with fitted wardrobes and en suite bathroom, second bedroom with fitted wardrobe and bathroom.
In the kitchen there is a dishwasher and also a Big fridge freezer! Regarding the council tax I can tell you that it is included in the price of £460 per month and also Sky TV,internet broadband,gas and electricity are also included in this price! I am intrested in a minimum six month agreement and I request two months advance rent payment plus one month refundable deposit (£460) wich you will get it back at the end of the contract.
Regarding the plummets and all that kind of stuff I can tell you that the flat was recently renovated and all electrical part and plummets are new so that won`t be necessary any repairs anyway I have a person who can manage this starting from June.
We can sign the rental contract starting from next weekend but I need to be sure that you have serious intentions in renting the flat that`s why I attach here a model of the rental contract and also we can discuss the terms when we will meet!
If you are decided to view the flat let me know because there is another person interested in reserving it and its fair to let him know too!
Regards
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2010/7/26 ******* <***********>
hello again.
Yes we would very much like to view the flat? would saturday be ok with you?you pick a time, it will be fine by us?
will be looking forward to viewing it.
Thanks
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:33:38 +0300
Subject: Re: Spacious 2 bed apartment.
From:
[email protected]To: *******************
Hello again,
We could meet and maybe sign the tenancy agreement on Saturday but you see these is due to previous predicament that I have gone through in the past trying to rent the property to some students,I have got to realize so many people are not really in need of an apartment all they do is secure a place in advance, My last experience in trying to rent the property to a particular lady had got me to predicate on these,she made me believe she was willing and ready to get the apartment she even went to the extend of showing me her statement of account,which made me took her for the viewing but after taking her for the viewing,she saw the apartment and got to love it and never wanted to loose it,so she kept pleading i retain it for her because she is not financially composed at the moment,which i did but end up disastrously.
So basically for me to be sure of you been willing and ready to get the apartment I will employ you walk into any Western Union outlet and send the total bill cash £1380(two months rent and one month refundable deposit) to your partener`s name(NOT to ME),or your partener should send it to you with location of Portsmouth,All I need is for you to get back to me with the receipt issued to you after making the transaction so I can confirm it! When we will meet in person to sign the papers we will go together to Western Union and you or your partner will withdraw the cash and pay me in hand or you can pay me on Monday by bank transfer! I just need to see that you do have the money available and you do have serious intentions in renting the flat! If the Western Union agent will ask you about the receiver you should tell him that is your cousin because the transfer fees will be cheaper! Anyway I will pay for it either you take the flat or not! I will book the flight for Saturday as soon as I have your positive answer because I can come only in weekends!
I do apologise for that but as I told you last time when I arrived to Portsmouth to show the flat to a person everything was a stupid joke and I hope you understand me because I don`t want to waste my time and money on plane tickets..
Regards,Miguel Jimenez
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This is where I realised it was a scam and continued with my Fiancés email to contact to see if they would mess up and they did straight away with the name! (Highlighted below)________________________________________
2010/7/26 ********** <************>
That's not a problem I will arrange for the transfer and receipt as soon as possible,
I do have one query though, why is it that the location and photo's you have posted on the website are different to the location and photo's you attached to the email?
Also I noticed on the agreement you emailed me it states no pets of any kind but as I previously said we have a cat and need to know if there is any possibility of having a cat in the property as she is a very much loved cat and we really do not want to have to let her go,
Thanks
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:25:30 +0300
Subject: Re: Spacious 2 bed apartment.
From:
[email protected]To: ***********************
Hi.
The add was posted by a friend of mine who place d the address wrong! I sent you the right location and photos and there s no problem with your pets as long as you will take care of the flat! I will try to come this weekend if you could make the Money Gram transaction tommorrow or latest Friday morning so I could have time to buy the flight ticket! If you can t, we will meet next weekend!!
Please note that I didn t asked for any kind of advance payment and the main reason I asked you that is the fact that I can come only in weekend when the banks are closed and some Money Gram agents are open 24hours! Regarding the Money Gram transaction its pretty simple and the sender should have his valid ID and cash ready when we will visit the agency! There s no need for both persons to be ready when you make the transaction because the receiver of the money will cash out the founds as soon as we meet and sign the tenancy agreement! Please don t forget when you will go to the Money Gram Office to wire the money sometimes they ask you why are you doing that and if you tell them you want make the payment for renting a flat,when the receiver picks up the money he must pay another fees and if you don't want to pay anything else you must tell the Money Gram clerk that you will send the money to a relative who needs the money!
Please send me a close up picture of the receipt as soon as you made the transaction and have the receipt so I could buy the flight ticket in time!
Best regards,
Dilya Kudratova________________________________________
2010/7/26 ***************** <*******************>
Thankyou for your reply Dilya,
But I thought I was dealing with Miguel?
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From: Manuel Jose Jimenez Medina (
[email protected])
Sent: 26 July 2010 13:56:53
To: ************ (********************)
Hello,
My girlfriend Dilya wrote my last e mail! I am sorry for that! I was told her what to write in my place:) I appologise for her mistake!
Regards,Miguel
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This is last message I received from them,
I really wish that there was something that could be done about this, I know it helps with this website and posting the messages but it would be better if we could stop them completely
By the way the name ‘Dilya Kudratova’ on that previous message I found out is an alias they are using to do the exact same scam apart from she’s in RUSSIA and had an auntie die in the UK,
I hope this helps people avoid these sons of *******!