by Michelle
Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:52 pm
<[email protected]>:
This person asks for a deposit payment via Western Union, MoneyGram, pre-paid credit card or bank transfer with a promise that you can have the keys to a property that does not belong to him.
Sounds safe. It's not!
At other times, he will ask for proof that you are able to pay the deposit and rent due to a string of time wasters.
This proof is in the form of a Western Union or MoneyGram payment to a lawyer,a friend or family member.
In either case, if payment is made and you give this person the details, they will collect the money.
You will not hear from them again.
All the details such as names, addresses, pictures etc. that the scammer uses in order to back up his story, are stolen from elsewhere.
If you are reading this because you are looking for property to rent, and you are in contact with this thief you are probably searching Craigslist, Gumtree or similar listing sites. If you receive any requests from 'Landlords' asking for some kind of payment before viewing, then it will also be a scam. Please forward the mail to me at the address in my signature line and I will investigate and list them if necessary.
Hi there,
Thank you for your prompt response. Obviously, you want to see the apartment, because you can not rent an apartment, you have not seen, and also, I want to protect the goods from my apartment, because I can not come to present it personally, I do not have a contact in Poland.
The delivery of the access keys, viewing permission form which will include a inventory of the goods from apartment and 2 copies of the rental agreement signed by me, will be made in 24 hours and the intermediation of the renting process will be made through Skrill https://www.skrill.com/pl/home/
A Skrill Transaction involves three parties: me as Landlord, you as a potential Tenant and Skrill as a responsible third party authorized to proper conduct of the transaction.
Anyway, I'll explain below how you can visit the apartment after you pay the deposit to Skrill:
Skrill Transaction works the same as then you rent an apartment with a local Real Estate Agency, except that, instead of paing the deposit to the Real Estate Agency, we'll use Skrill . Of course, nobody can touch that money until you do not see the apartment and you communicate to Skrill your decision to rent the apartment. In case that you don't like the apartment after inspection, you must contact Skrill and ask the refund. Skrill will refund you the deposit immediately and you must deliver back the keys, on my cost.
The deposit include the 1st month rent (1.380,ZL) + 1 month rental guarantee (1.380,ZL) = 2.760,ZL and must be transferred to Skrill. The payment made to Skrill is not an upfront payment, because the money will stay in the Skrill custody until you get the apartment keys and you will see it. In all this time, the money will be, as in your wallet . I will be paid by Skrill Company, after they will receive your confirmation that, the apartment is the same with that apartment that you saw online and you want to rent it. As soon as you'll pay this 2.760,ZL to Skrill, Skrill will inform me that you have accepted the transaction and I'll start the delivery of the keys immediately.
To initiate the process, I need the following information from you, but before you'll send them, read carefully the procedure to not waste our time :
1-Shipping Address (address where you want the package to be delivered) and name of recipient
2-Delivery Schedule (local time you'll be at home to receive the package and sign for the receipt)
3-Mobile phone number for an easier contact
Do not register on the Skrill website, because this is a rental transaction and the Landlord must start it. You will have 2 days to inspect the apartment, starting from the arrival date of the package with the keys. If you decide to rent the apartment, you must sign the rental agreement and only after that, Skrill will transfer me this 2.760,ZL. After I'll be paid by Skrill, we'll have a usual rental agreement and we will fix all details privately.
I remind you, the monthly rent is 1.380,ZL including all bills (gas,electricity, heating, etc), no extra cost for you.
I think I was pretty clear and you have understood the transaction steps. If you are interested, write me the details requested above, so that I may begin to transact through Skrill.
With friendly greetings ,
Martin Ralph
From: Martin Ralph <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Poniżej znajduje się odpowiedź na Twoje ogłoszenie Gumtree: "Mieszkanie do wynajęcia"
To: Michelle Banks
Hi Michelle
I recently received confirmation from Skrill .... You should have received this email from Skrill also ..... I have forwarded you a copy just in case it was not delivered or sent in your junk folder and you have not seen it.
As I read in this confirmation, you must pay the deposit (PLN 2,760.00 ) by a fast payment service called Western Union and you must use the following information to make the payment by Western Union:
Agent Name: Alfonso Lucciano
Agent Address: 11 Charing Cross Road
City: London, Greater London
Postal Code: WC2H 0AT
Country: United Kingdom
Payable Amount : PLN 2,760.00
So, you need to write down the name of the agent and go to the nearest Western Union office in your city and pay the deposit.
Once you have paid the deposit, do not forget to send a copy of the Western Union receipt as proof of payment to Skrill by e-mail. If you'll succeed to pay today until 4:00 o'clock, I will be able to deliver the keys today also and you'll receive them tomorrow in the afternoon.
I am waiting for your e-mail as soon as possible.
I wish you a beautiful day!
Ralph Martin
This person asks for a deposit payment via Western Union, MoneyGram, pre-paid credit card or bank transfer with a promise that you can have the keys to a property that does not belong to him.
Sounds safe. It's not!
At other times, he will ask for proof that you are able to pay the deposit and rent due to a string of time wasters.
This proof is in the form of a Western Union or MoneyGram payment to a lawyer,a friend or family member.
In either case, if payment is made and you give this person the details, they will collect the money.
You will not hear from them again.
All the details such as names, addresses, pictures etc. that the scammer uses in order to back up his story, are stolen from elsewhere.
If you are reading this because you are looking for property to rent, and you are in contact with this thief you are probably searching Craigslist, Gumtree or similar listing sites. If you receive any requests from 'Landlords' asking for some kind of payment before viewing, then it will also be a scam. Please forward the mail to me at the address in my signature line and I will investigate and list them if necessary.