Room for Rent and other rental scams
by Con Warner Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:40 am
Hi,

I am so happy to read back from you. Firstly i want you to know that the apartment is still available for rent. Below are some vital information you need to know about my apartment. It cost 450euro monthly together with all bills such as water, electricity,internet connection,water available, microwave oven,fridge,gas e.t.c and also a 500euro security deposit payment which is refundable while packing out of my apartment if there is no damage or loss of my properties.

The apartment is situated at 406 Avenue de la couronne1050 Ixelles,Brussels, Belgium and it is close to its metro station,my apartment is spacious, it is about 70sqm in size and a room is about 30sqm. there are restaurant and public transport all around and it's 8mins walking distance to the supermarket, so it's located in a very nice and safe area in Brussels.

I attached some pics of my apartment so that you can see how the place looks like. I will wait to read back from you if you are interested in renting my apartment so that we can proceed. You can simply reach me on +447011174164 for further discussion on the apartment.

Best regards,
Engr Georgios.

This person asks for a deposit payment via Western Union with a promise that he will send the keys through a courier company.

Sounds safe. It's not!

At other times, he will ask for proof that you are able to pay the deposit and rent due to a string of time wasters.
This proof is in the form of a Western Union payment to a friend or family member.

In either case, if payment is made and you give this person the details, they will collect the money.
You will not hear from them again.

If you are reading this because you are looking for property to rent, and you are in contact with this thief you are probably searching Craigslist, Gumtree or similar listing sites. If you receive any requests from 'Landlords' asking for some kind of payment by Western Union before viewing, then it will also be a scam. Please forward the mail to me at the address in my signature line and I will investigate and list them if necessary.

Email: [email protected]

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by Ufara Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:54 pm
Damn I got the exact mail while I was looking at the apartment in Switzerland :s exact words, only differ in place :o

"Thanks for the mail, i am so happy to let you know that the apartment is still very much available for rent and its very close to WHO office.Here are some important information about the apartment. The apartment cost 500euro's per month including all bills such as water, electricity,internet connection,water available, microwave oven, fridge,gas e.t.c plus 500euro's for security deposit payment which is refundable while packing without any lost or damage of my properties.

The apartment is located at 6 Rue Saint Joseph, 1227 Carouge Geneva, Switzerland and it just about 1.2km distance to its metro station,the apartment spacious is about 80sqm and a room is about 30sqm, restaurant and public transport all around and it's 8mins walking distance to the supermarket, so it's located in a very nice and safe area in Geneva.

Attached are some pics of how my apartment looks like.

Kindly let me know if you will be interested in renting my apartment so that we can proceed further.

You can simply reach me on +380939006593for further discussion on the apartment.

Best regards
Engr Georgios."

Hahaha
So, what's the best site to look for apartment then?

Thank you :)
by Ufara Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:57 pm
And what about this one, can you check?

"Thanks for the interest you have in my flat. My flat is still available for rent and you can rent my flat as long as you pay your rent at when due. Here are the necessary things you need to know about the rent and deposit and presently am in ENGLAND MANCHESTER with my family and i just got a new job.

Rent : 600CHF
Security Deposit: 400CHF (Returnable after 2 weeks stay in my flat) Utility bills inclusive ( water, gas, council tax, TV license and wireless Internet).

Address:Rue Voltaire 2,CH-1201 Genève, Switzerland.

However, my flat is fully furnished in and out with all necessary house use with secure parking place. At this stage that you want to rent my flat, i need to know some few question about you. Can you take care of my flat as it is? How many months do you intend to rent and pay for?

Kindly reply for further information and i would like to know where you are coming from to stay in my flat.

I look forward to reading from you soon.

Regards"

His name is Jose Dan, and his email is [email protected]

also this one

"Thanks for your interest in our apartment. The apartment is still available for you to move in any time you want to. I am renting out my apartment due to the fact that i am out of the country with my single family to UNITED STATE due to my missionary work. The address of the apartment is: Rue de Lausanne 40, 1201 Genève, Switzerland.
You can go to the address stated above for viewing. Please kindly tell me your name, age, your present address, occupation,the date you want to move in and the date you want to move out from the apartment. Moreso, please kindly state your purpose of renting our apartment in your reply. Please do get back to me with all these necessary information so that i can send it to my lawyer.

Thanks
Warmest Regards"

from Rana Shahzad, her email is [email protected]

Again, thank you!
by GomerPyle Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:19 pm
I'm sorry but they both sound like scams Ufara.

The term 'Council Tax is a UK term and not applicable to Switzerland. Scammers know most about UK property and when referring to foreign properties they use the same terms, showing that they have no local knowledge. He also appears not to know about TV licence payments either. :lol:

When he mentions that he's in the UK he is giving you a reason why he can't show you round the apartment, which avoids telling you that he doesn't own it and couldn't show you around a property he's never seen.

Away in the USA on missionary work ? :lol: - scammer.

Forget him.

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by Ufara Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:10 pm
Damn, I hope they soon get better jobs so they will stop scamming!

Thanks btw :) and what you did has saved me money!
by Adoyiz Wed May 25, 2011 11:37 am
Thanks much, guys!

Just wanted to let you know that these scammers are still active and sending exact same messages.

@Ufara, were you able to find any decent source to find an acc.in Geneva?

Below are their emails to me and 'new' names. I hope it helps someone.

from Natelie Bateman [email protected]
to
date 25 May 2011 06:14
subject Room available in Geneva???????????
mailed-by hotmail.com

hide details 06:14 (14 hours ago)

Hello...

As regard room which is available for rent in Geneva.

For formalty purpose, let me introduce myself:

My name is Natelie Bateman,26,easy going, Clean tidy, non smoker female.
I am originally from, England, and i moved to join my father in Switzerland when he was transfered to Geneva.

The house formally belongs to my late father, who worked with British Embassy
here in Geneva until his death and he has passed it to my mother through his will.
My mother and siblings went back to the UK,after the death of my father.

The most important thing i am looking for is to share daily live and common value.

The ideal person i will like to share the apartment with must be a neat person,tidy person,
trust worthy person and there must be proof that he or she can payfor the monthly rent.

I am currently working with an Airline which enables me to travel alot and i as
well attend language school when i am not working.

The apartment is located at; Avenue de la Paix, Geneva, Switzerland 1211.

The location is perfect.
The House is in a cool area , has there is no noise in the vicinity, because the house is not close to major busy roads.

The apartment is located in the center of the city and it is close to bus stops and as well
as Train Station which makes the apartment to be accesible.

The house has a parking space which can park two cars at a time.

The house has internet and there will not be any need for you to bring inany furnitures as the flat and the rooms are well furnished, but you can as wellcome along with your furnitures if you so wish.

The faciities which are available in the apartment are as follows:

1. Private Bathroom and Toilet
2. Furnished

AND

from Grt Hrttt [email protected]
to
date 25 May 2011 02:38
subject Re: CHF600 A bed room Studio apartment to rent.. (Geneva (Avenue de Ch‚telaine))
mailed-by yahoo.com
Signed by yahoo.com

hide details 02:38 (17 hours ago)

> Hello,
> thanks for the mail and the interest you have in my apartment,so a
> short description about the apartment ....The apartment is located at
> Avenue de Châtelaine 16 1203 Genève and its 28m2 for each room in
> the apartment,so it is 600CHF and its include the
> utilities in the apartment like water,heater,gas,internet e.t.c and
> the refundable deposit of 850CHF which is going to be refunded back
> to you after you stay if nothing is damage or loss in the
> apartment.The rooms are furnished with
> TV,CD,fridge,internet,chairs,wardrobe,reading-table,AC,
> Heater,cooker,washing machine,dish washer and so on...The apartment is
> located in a very peaceful and cool environment,it is 2 bedrooms
> with a shared kitchen,private toilet and bathroom.. so let me know if you are
> interested so that we can proceed because i am not in Geneva for
> now,so if you will like to rent it so that i can mail you the
> necessary information you will need to know about the
> apartment...photo,and any thing you will like to know.Waiting to read
> from you soon also you can call me on my number below and we can chat
> on my skype or you call me (very.friendly1)....+447045767938

AND

from Geo k Laz [email protected]
reply-to Geo k Laz <[email protected]>
to
date 25 May 2011 02:57
subject Re: CHF650 / 1br - Fantastic spacious and fully equiped apartment for lease (Central Geneva)
mailed-by yahoo.com
Signed by yahoo.com

hide details 02:57 (17 hours ago)

Hi ,

Thanks for the mail, i am so happy to let you know that the apartment is still very much available for rent.Here are some important information about the apartment. The apartment cost 500euro's per month including all bills such as water, electricity,internet connection,water available, microwave oven, fridge,gas,washing manchine with dryer e.t.c plus 500euro's for security deposit payment which is refundable while packing without any lost or damage of my properties.

The apartment is located at 6 Rue Saint Joseph, 1227 Carouge Geneva, Switzerland and it just about 1.2km distance to its metro station,the apartment spacious is about 80sqm and a room is about 30sqm, restaurant and public transport all around and it's 8mins walking distance to the supermarket, so it's located in a very nice and safe area in Geneva.

Attached are some pics of how my apartment looks like.

Kindly let me know if you will be interested in renting my apartment so that we can proceed further.

You can simply reach me on +380939006593for further discussion on the apartment.

Best regards
Engr Georgios.
by Adoyiz Wed May 25, 2011 11:39 am
and the last one i got from so called David Mora

from Jacob Jacob [email protected]
to
date 25 May 2011 12:54
subject APARTMENT IS VERY MUCH AVAILABLE GENEVA
Signed by ymail.com

hide details 12:54 (7 hours ago)

Dear Renter

Thank you for your response the content is well understood and the
room will be available for as long as you wish. I would
like to know your present location as well

The house is located at Avenue Wendt 41 1203 Geneva switzerland

The room is a good size 11x14 aitch a big walk in closet. It is a four
bedroom duplex but only 2 rooms is available for rent. The condo has
been recently renovated (new kitchen, bathrooms, trim and paint) it
feels very new and very clean.

I have all the amenities you could possibly want, Gym, in unit W/d,
D/W, all new stainless steel appliances, Internet in every room as
well as wireless, 32" plasma in the family room, etc.
I am a 32yrs,I am doing my PHD and working here, and the house belongs to my parents
who are currently in the UNITED KINGDOM.

The rent again per month is $ 500, which includes all utilities to
be paid just once which covers the whole of utilities for the duration
of your stay and a security deposit of $ 450, which is refundable at
the end of your stay in the room.

The purpose of this money is in case of damages (either by you or any
of your guests). Your money will be refunded in full to you at the end
of your stay in the room if there is no damage to the room or the
fittings.

The transport system is quiet very good as it is located in the heart
of GENEVA and its very close to the train station which makes it
just few minutes to get to the city central and all is just located
within a few minutes walk from the house. The house is also close to
the main shopping malls, groceries, and market and jewelry store all
for you to purchase your basic needs.

Your quickest response shall be highly appreciated to determine your
interest as a flat mate, because there's some other potential renter's
interested in my flat but i am considering you based on priority and
honesty. Attached to this email is pictures of the apartment for your
view.

Regards,
MR David Mora
by ely Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:09 am
I've just received the SAME message! And another one by a certain M. Rouillard who says he's far far away and needs 300 € to prove I'm interested because he cannot show me the flat...
by Michael Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:25 pm
Hi ely, could you please post the email addresses these scammers are using? Thanks, and welcome :D

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