Room for Rent and other rental scams
by Con Warner Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:47 pm
From: Anthony KellyNewton [mailto:[email protected]]
To: Con Warner
Subject: Re: Apartment for rent in Utrecht

Hello

Thanks for the mail, i am so happy to let you know that the
apartment is still very much available for rent.Here are some
important information about the apartment. The apartment cost 500euro
per month including all bills such as,washing machine, water,
electricity, gas,internet e.t.c plus 600euro for security deposit
payment which is refundable while packing without any lost or damage
of my properties.The apartment is located at Breedstraat 20, 3512
Utrecht, The Netherlands. and it just about 1.2km distance to its
metro station,the apartment spacious is about 80sqm and a room is
about 30sqm, restaurant and public transport all around and it's 8mins
walking distance to the supermarket, so it's located in a very nice
and safe area in Netherlands...

Attached are some pics of how my apartment looks like. Kindly let me
know if you will be interested in renting my apartment so that we can
proceed further.


You can simply reach me on +447045717849 or +447045780295 or
+447045782952 for further discussion on the apartment.


Best regards,
Anthony


This person asks for proof that you are able to pay the deposit and rent due to a string of time wasters.
This proof is in the form of a Western Union or MoneyGram payment either to him, your friend or a family member.

Sounds safe. It's not!

At other times, this person asks for a deposit payment via Western Union or Moneygram with the promise that they will send the keys through a courier company.

In either case, if payment is made and you give this person the details, they will collect the money.
You will not hear from them again.

If you are reading this because you are looking for property to rent, and you are in contact with this thief you are probably searching Craigslist, Gumtree or similar listing sites. If you receive any requests from 'Landlords' asking for some kind of payment before viewing, then it will also be a scam. Please forward the mail to me at the address in my signature line and I will investigate and list them if necessary.


Thanks for your response to my aprtment,that is my phone number, i
guess it maybe network problem.i am so sorry i will not be available
in Utrecht for now as i am presently in uk working but all you need
to do is to go straight to the address i sent you and view the
apartment but i want you to have it in mind that you will not have
full access into the apartment as it is locked and i am here with the
keys. Thats why i sent you those pictures so that you can see how the
apartment looks like.


Let me know if you would like me to proceed in renting my apartment so
that i can email you further procedures,you can simply reach me on
+447045717849 or +447045780295 for further discussion on the
apartment.

Best regards,
Anthony


Thanks so much for your prompt response,it available as for now on you
will be living in my apartment without sharing it with anybody you can
tell friends take a look for you from outside but i want you to have
it in mind that he wont gain full access into the inside because is
looked and am here with the keys,my apartment is at the first floor of
the building and it is available for short term and long term basis
because am going to be here for 1 years and i dont want my apartment
to be dusty when coming back in the next 1 years,that is the main
reason why am renting out my apartment.But all you need to do is to go
straight to the address i sent you and view the apartment but i want
you to have it in mind that you will not have full access into the
apartment as it is locked and i am here with the keys.

But before any reservation,Can you tell me little about
yourself,Anything you think you want me to know about you.

where are you from and also where are you presently?
what is your experience in renting an apartment?
Have you ever rent an apartment before?
Did you smoke?
Did you have pet?
did you take drugs?
did you have car?
Are you going to stay alone?
Are you paying the rent yourself?
What are you doing for living?
How old are you?
What is your gender?
Phone number?
Mobile Number?

Kindly get back to me so that i can tell you on how to get my
Apartment reserved and you can simply reach me on +447045717849 or
+447045780295 for further discussion on the apartment.

Best regards,
Anthony


Thanks so much for your prompt response,I will be willing to rent out
my apartment to you,i want you to please do take very good care of my
apartment for me in my absence.

Here is little about myself,Am Anthony Kellynewton i was born in
England,my father is from England why my mother is from Netherlands,Am
53 years old widow with 2 daughter and they are also here with me in
United Kingdom,am nice faithful loyal honest caring open minded, i
respect people a lot and i do love to meet new people, i travel a lot
and i love an outgoing, i do smoke but i dont drink acholoh.

Two year ago i Inherite the apartment from my late mother who is from
Netherlands because am the only one for my mum and also am here
working for my company in United Kingdom and there is no way i could
come to take good care of the apartment myself thats why i am looking
for a reliable tenant who is going to take good care of this apartment
for me in my absense because i dont want it to be dusty.

For you to get the place reserved we will both sign a rental agreement
contract which will be prepared by my lawyer then i will post the keys
of the apartment and the payment receipt to you via DHL express (1
days delivery ) after your deposit payment which is your first month
rent and the security deposit has been confirmed.

Do get back to me with the below informations so that we can proceed
further:

Your full name:
Your full address:
Nationality:
Passport id:
Phone number:
Date of birth:
Move in date and out:

I shall be waiting for the above informations soonest. Pls make sure
you send me your correct current address because i would use that in
posting down the keys and the payment receipt to you after we must
have concluded the contract.

You can simply reach me on +447045717849 or +447045780295 for further
discussion on the apartment.

Best regard
Anthony


Thanks for the email and i do understand your concern,i have once make
this risk coming down to show a tenant my apartment when i arrive he
said his no longer interested after i wasted my time money this the
part of reason why i dont make that such mistake anymore.....

i can only come down to show you my apartment and we sign the contract
and i will hand over the keys to you....

1) Transfer the amount 1100euro (1 month rent and security deposit) to
any of your family members (wife, dad, mum, siblings) or your friend.


Your Name (as Sender) to any of your family members (wife, dad,
mum,siblings) or your friend (as Receiver) in London or other parts of
UK.


2) Scan & Send a copy of the Western Union transaction receipt as a
proof of the transaction or mail me the transaction details. (The
money is safe as it is only you that can withdraw since you need a
national ID card or International passport)


3) Then, we will meet for viewing.


4) If you decide to take the flat, we will go to any local Western
Union Money Transfer office for you to pick up the money and pay
me.(You don't need to come with cash to view, after viewing we will go
together, you will cancel the transfer and withdraw the money to pay
me).

5) Keys will be handed over to you after signing the contracts.


I am pretty sure that the transaction at Western Union office will
require some charges, i will definitely refund the transaction charges
back to you upon viewing and if you don't see what i sent as pictures
of my flat to you, you are free to leave without paying me anything.

Anthony



Hello

Thanks for the mail. i undertsand your concern. Here is the
example of how you will do it at western union for both of us to be in
safe hands:

The senders name;your name
The senders address:your address

Receivers name:name of your friends name in your country
Receivers address:United kingdom

The receivers name must be United kingdom so that i can comfirm here
that truly the payment has been made.As soon as you made the payment
like that you will get back to me with the scan copy of the payment
receipt from western union so that i can be able to confirm here that
truly the payment has been made out.As soon as i confirm that, i will
post my keys to you immediately and you will check the apartment
yourself and if you okay with the condition of the apartment, we will
then proceed with the contract and after the contract, you will go
back to western union to have the receivers name change to my name and
if you are not interested in renting my apartment you can easily go
back to western union to have your money back.

This is very simple and am sure it will safe and secure both parties.

I shall be waiting for your response as soon as possible

Regards
Anthony

Email: [email protected]

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by little one1234 Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:50 am
I totally support your warning regarding Anthony Kelly Newton <[email protected]>, as I have received the same mails as you did from him. I was looking for a place to rent in Brussels on expatriates.com, but I have noticed that his post disappeared from one day to another so I became suspicious.
Thank you for posting your experience with him, you saved me some money and valuable time!
by ania2405 Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:19 pm
I confirm this man is a cheater. Beware of him. I have received exactly the same type of mail exchange while searching a flat to rent in Brussels on 2 August 2011. Just in time I cancelled bank transfer which he wanted me to make to his lawyer's account to the USA. Again beware of him!!!!
by Katharina Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:25 pm
Welcome ania2405! Good to know you escaped.
Could you please send me a PM with the email you got - the one with the bank account?
by ania2405 Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:12 am
Hi Katharina,

I attach the message he sent to me concerning the money transfer:

"

Thanks for the mail,Attached is the signed contract. Kindly print it
out, sign it and have it scanned back to me. I am also happy to have
your current address with me as i will post down the keys to your
address via DHL express delivery as soon as i confirm your payment
tomorrow.Here is my lawyer bank information to make the payment to
him:


Bank Name:Chase Bank
Bank Address:2980 W Evans Denver, Co. 80219
Account name: Rodney L Gottier
Account no. 965601727
Routing: 102001017
When using this account,IBAN and SWIFT number is not needed all you
need is your country`s code.

Since there is alot of problem when transfer money to United State
from bank transfer also it takes up to 8 days for the money to
reflect.

Kindly get back to me with the bank transfer Once i get the
information from you tomorrow, i will go ahead with the posting of the
keys and also send you the shipment code . I wish you a very happy
stay in my apartment.

I shall be waiting for the signed copy of the contract and that of the
payment receipt from the bank transfer

Regards
Anthony
"

Can you give some advice how to proceed further in order to prevent him from cheating other people?
by Katharina Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:21 pm
You have already helped a great deal by posting his banking details. Any victim doing a Google search for them will find your post and stay clear - and another scammer is thwarted! :=)

Unfortunately, scammers almost always operate out of an internet café somewhere in Africa or Malaysia, and it is nearly impossible to prosecute them from overseas. The only way to slow them down is public awareness. You might consider talking to friends and family about internet scams and encouraging them to come here if they need advice or just to browse through our topics to get a general idea how various scams work.

And I've sent you a PM. :D
by ania2405 Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:15 pm
Here is the data of his "lawyer" he provided me with in the fake rental agreement:

RODNEY GOTTIER
The Clapham Law Solicitors
+447045743701
[email protected]
59 & 11B Bedford Road, Clapham North, London SW4 7SH
by KRadomska Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:37 am
Hello there! I had the same situation with (probably) the same person. His new e-mail address is: [email protected] I was looking for some place to rent on [url]expatriates.com.[/url] I found such a great occasion that looked very suspicious. However I answered for this advertisement. After my answer this post disappeared
from one day to another so I became more and more suspicious. I searched the internet and find out that’s a cheater – THANKS TO YOU!.

Here you have his last e-mail which he sent to me:

'Attached is the signed contract and a copy of my passport. Kindly print it out, sign it and have it scanned back to me and keep a copy. i will give the DHL your mobile number also so that they can contact you when they arrive to make it more easier i will post down the keys and the payment receipt to you via DHL express as soon as i confirm your payment and the signed contract i will send you the shipping code so that you can track it and know when it will delivered..
Below is my information needed to make the payment to me via western union:i should have prefer using bank account but i don't have an account here yet due because i just arrive here..
Name: Ramos Kelly Verdez..
Address:10 Jeffery Street, Edinburgh EH1 1DH, United Kingdom..

Kindly get back to me with the senders name, senders address, and the 10 digits MTCN( money transfer control number). You can also send me a scanned copy of the payment receipt from western union. Once i get the information from you, i will go ahead with the posting of the keys and also send you the shipment code . I wish you a very happy stay in my apartment.
I shall be waiting for the signed copy of the contract and that of the payment receipt from western union.'
by Dmiramonb Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:00 pm
Now he changed his name into Alex but still the same sentences Ipve got this e mails today
Thanks for your response to my aprtment,it available as for now on you
will be living in my apartment without sharing it with anybody i am so
sorry i will not be available in Utrecht for now as i am presently in
uk working but all you need to do is to go straight to the address i
sent you and view the apartment but i want you to have it in mind that
you will not have full access into the apartment as it is locked and i
am here with the keys. Thats why i sent you those pictures so that you
can see how the apartment looks like.


Let me know if you would like me to proceed in renting my apartment so
that i can email you further procedures,you can simply reach me on
+447045717849 or +447045780295 for further discussion on the
apartment.

Best regards,
Alex

Thanks so much for your prompt response,it available as for now on you
will be living in my apartment without sharing it with anybody take a
look for you from outside but i want you to have it in mind that he
wont gain full access into the inside because is looked and am here
with the keys,my apartment is at the first floor of the building and
it is available for short term and long term basis because am going to
be here for 1 years and i dont want my apartment to be dusty when
coming back in the next 1 years,that is the main reason why am renting
out my apartment.But all you need to do is to go straight to the

address i sent you and view the apartment but i want you to have it in
mind that you will not have full access into the apartment as it is
locked and i am here with the keys.


But before any reservation,Can you tell me little about
yourself,Anything you think you want me to know about you.


where are you from and also where are you presently?
what is your experience in renting an apartment?
Have you ever rent an apartment before?
Did you smoke?
Did you have pet?
did you take drugs?
did you have car?
Are you going to stay alone?
Are you paying the rent yourself?
What are you doing for living?
How old are you?
What is your gender?
Phone number?
Mobile Number?



Kindly get back to me so that i can tell you on how to get my
Apartment reserved and you can simply reach me on +447045717849 or


Thanks so much for your prompt response,I will be willing to rent out
my apartment to you,i want you to please do take very good care of my
apartment for me in my absence.

Here is little about myself,Am Alex Kelly Dumler i was born in
England,my father is from England why my mother is from Netherland,Am
53 years old widow with 2 daughter and they are also here with me in
United Kingdom,am nice faithful loyal honest caring open minded, i
respect people a lot and i do love to meet new people, i travel a lot
and i love an outgoing, i do smoke but i dont drink acholoh.

Two year ago i Inherite the apartment from my late mother who is from
Netherland because am the only one for my mum and also am here working
for my company in United Kingdom and there is no way i could come to
take good care of the apartment myself thats why i am looking for a
reliable tenant who is going to take good care of this apartment for
me in my absense because i dont want it to be dusty.

For you to get the place reserved we will both sign a rental agreement
contract which will be prepared by my lawyer then i will post the keys
of the apartment and the payment receipt to you via DHL express (1
days delivery ) after your deposit payment which is your first month
rent and the security deposit has been confirmed.

Do get back to me with the below informations so that we can proceed further:

Your full name:
Your full address:
Nationality:
Passport id:
Phone number:
Date of birth:
Move in date and out:

Is your apartment close to Utrecht Univeristy (downtown campus) ?is
very close to my apartment its just some few minutes to get there and
transportation are all around
When are you comeing back for good?am going to be here for 1 years and

i dont want my apartment to be dusty when coming back in the next 1
years


I shall be waiting for the above informations soonest. Pls make sure
you send me your correct current address because i would use that in
posting down the keys and the payment receipt to you after we must
have concluded the contract.

You can simply reach me on +447045717849 or +447045780295 for further

Thanks for your response to my aprtment,am in london for now and am
here with my family and i dont have anybody in Utrecht for now all my
friends are out of town and my lawyer is in uk so that is why the key
is with me in uk,so i use to use some agencies before but i dont love
the way they treat my tenants that is why am here wit my keys.


would your prefer me to pay you the 4 days of August that are left and

star with September?you star with September ok

I understand you that you dont want to deal with the person you have
not seen, and i want you to know that bad people have spoiled the good
once, i have already had a bad experience in renting my apartment
before my question is that did you have anybody here in uk or any
close friend of you or family?

Your information has been sent to my lawyer and by today the contract
will be ready.Once i receive it,i will sign it send it to you and once
you receive it, you will print it out, read it carefully, sign it,go
ahead with your payment and you will get back to me with the signed
contract and the payment receipt.Immediately i confirm that from you,
i will go ahead with the posting of the keys and the document of the
house to you and i will get back to you with the shipping code for you
to know when the keys will be delivered to you.

He also request for my passport ID also because the passport ID is
going to be inside the contract or if you cant release it you can just
provide me any ID so that we can easily use that to trace each other.I
shall be waiting for the ID so that my lawyer can have the contract
prepared.

Just make sure you check your email
by mike dukely Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:35 am
Hello,

First of all, thanks for posting all this, otherwise he would have fooled me too.

Yesterday I was searching for a room in Copenhagen and wrote two emails to:

[email protected] (roberliekelly bertucci)
[email protected] (Simon KellyBoylan)

I got suspicious when the both answerd within an hour, and with quite the same message:

roberliekelly bertucci:
"Thanks for the mail, i am so happy to let you know that the apartment
is still very much available for rent.Here are some important
information about the apartment. The apartment cost 3200DKK per month
including all bills such as,washing machine, water, electricity,
gas,internet e.t.c plus 3500DKK for security deposit payment which is
refundable while packing without any lost or damage of my
properties.The apartment is located at København, Nørregade 22, 1165
Copenhagen, Danmark and it just about 1.2km distance to its metro
station,the apartment spacious is about 80sqm and a room is about
30sqm, restaurant and public transport all around and it's 8mins
walking distance to the supermarket, so it's located in a very nice and
safe area in Danmarks...
Attached are some pics of how my apartment looks like. Kindly let me know
if you will be interested in renting my apartment so that we can proceed
further.
You can simply reach me on +447045717849 or +447045780295 or
+447035941978 for further discussion on the apartment."


Simon KellyBoylan:
"Thanks for the mail, i am so happy to let you know that the apartment
is still very much available for rent.Here are some important
information about the apartment. The apartment cost 3000DKK per month
including all bills such as,washing machine, water, electricity,
gas,internet e.t.c plus 3500DKK for security deposit payment which is
refundable while packing without any lost or damage of my
properties.The apartment is located at Falkoner Alle 12, 2000
København, Denmark and it just about 1.2km distance to its metro
station,the apartment spacious is about 80sqm and a room is about
30sqm, restaurant and public transport all around and it's 8mins
walking distance to the supermarket, so it's located in a very nice
and safe area in Denmark.
Attached are some pics of how my apartment looks like. Kindly let me
know if you will be interested in renting my apartment so that we can
proceed further.
You can simply reach me on +447011137253 for further discussion on the
apartment."

I hope you see what´s strange about this.
At that time I was already careful, but i thought it could not hurt if he would send me his contract... it arrived today morning, 12 hours after I first wrote him!

The lawyer´s name is:
RODNEY GOTTIER
The Clapham Law Solicitors
59 & 11B Bedford Road, Clapham North, London SW4 7SH

Through the lawyer´s name I got here and read all the dirty things.
But until now I haven´t told him that I can not accept his contract. I hope he won´t demand an attorney's fee, but I will keep you updated!

be sceptical :wink:
mike
by mike dukely Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:40 am
By the way, this is him:

The Landlord is
Roberlie Kellybertucci of Falkoner Alle 12, 2000 København, Denmark
Holder of passport Number: 14474979.
Date of Birth: 10/01/1965
Phone Number: +447011137253
Current Address: 367 Strand, London WC2R 0JJ, United Kingdom.

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