Rental Scammer - [email protected]

From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: April 2, 2012 11:11
To: Con Warner
Subject: Re: Greenwich St apt

Dear David

Thanks for the prompt reply and understanding , I got your information and have it saved for booking process, I will be more than glad to rent my apartment out to you. The two bedroom apartment is a private unit, you don't have to share anything with anybody and it is on the 2nd floor of an elevator building and it is located on 756 greenwhich street, New York. The apartment is available for the chosen dates of April 28th to May 2nd. Here is the breakdown for your 4 nights stay

Nightly Rate = $180
4 nights =$720

Security Deposit =$300(refundable)

You are required to make a down deposit of 50% of total rent plus security deposit. That is ($360 +$300 = $660) to hold the apartment for your date. Remaining rental balance to be paid on arrival at the apartment . The security deposit will be refunded to you on your day of departure from the apartment provided nothing is damaged or lost in the unit.

Before we could proceed with the booking of the unit, I will have to send you the booking/contract form . You will fill it and send it back to me . That will be a kind of bind between us

I want you to know that there are lots of bidders who are interested in the apartment , It is always on first come first serve basis.

Accepted Payment methods are
Us Bank Check
Wire transfer to our company's account.

Let me know if you would like to proceed with the booking so i can forward the booking/contract form to secure the apartment for your dates. . Looking forward to your reply




Regards

Daniel Kaat
Gloria Enterprises
400 Fifth Avenue
New York,
NY 10018
USA
+1 315-939-8965
+1 920-368-6729

This person asks for a deposit payment via Western Union, MoneyGram or bank transfer with a promise that you can have the keys to a property that does not belong to him.

Sounds safe. It's not!

At other times, he will ask for proof that you are able to pay the deposit and rent due to a string of time wasters.
This proof is in the form of a Western Union or MoneyGram payment to a lawyer,a friend or family member.

In either case, if payment is made and you give this person the details, they will collect the money.
You will not hear from them again.

If you are reading this because you are looking for property to rent, and you are in contact with this thief you are probably searching Craigslist, Gumtree or similar listing sites. If you receive any requests from 'Landlords' asking for some kind of payment before viewing, then it will also be a scam. Please forward the mail to me at the address in my signature line and I will investigate and list them if necessary.

Company’s Lawyer : Sandra Osborne ([email protected])
4. PAYMENT METHOD :TO BE MADE TO MY COMPANY’S
LAWYERS ACCOUNT
Bank Name : Bank of America <--Reported
Bank Address : 103 E 23rd St, New York, NY 10010
Name on Account : Sandra L. Osborne,
Account # : 139100037417
Routing # : 026009593
swift code: BOFAUS3N
Owners Address : 205 W 24th St New York, NY 10011

Bank Name : Wells Fargo Bank <--Reported
Bank Address : 784 Broadway,New York, NY 10003
Account Name : Daniel Kaat
Account number : 3446396297
Routing number : 121000248
Swift Code : WFBIUS6S

Also uses the name: "Glorias Enterprises"

Hi,

it seems I have been deceived by same renter [email protected] Daniel Kaat. Is anyway to get money back? pls help

thank you

Pavel

If you have paid by bank transfer, there may be a very slim chance of stopping it if you are quick enough.
You will need to take a print out of all correspondence with the scammer to your bank and tell them of the scam.
It might be a good idea to take a print out of my post above too.

If you have paid by Western Union or Moneygram, you will need to make it a priority to try and cancel the payment.

If the scammer has already received your funds, then I'm sorry to say it but your money has gone for good.

Hi Con,

unfortunately scammer confirmed to me he received already payment. Is there really no chance to get money back? The bank account is named to scammer, so I can announce to his bank Wells Fargo I have been cheated and ask them with cooperatio....or is this stupid idea? This scammer has everything arranged very well included agreement etc........

There is no harm in trying. Pleas let us know the outcome.

This person, called James, continues to try and rip people off, and this time through airbnb.com. I too have received the same booking/contract form as worded below. The broken English emails and uncontactable phone number were dubios. Searching for the telephone number used led me to this page. Thank you for your posts!!!! It saved me from making the mistake.Beware. The person is now using email bestdeal72.post.com. I am going to tweet this and also report it to airbnb.

From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: April 2, 2012 11:11
To: Con Warner
Subject: Re: Greenwich St apt

Dear David

Thanks for the prompt reply and understanding , I got your information and have it saved for booking process, I will be more than glad to rent my apartment out to you. The two bedroom apartment is a private unit, you don't have to share anything with anybody and it is on the 2nd floor of an elevator building and it is located on 756 greenwhich street, New York. The apartment is available for the chosen dates of April 28th to May 2nd. Here is the breakdown for your 4 nights stay

Nightly Rate = $180
4 nights =$720

Security Deposit =$300(refundable)

You are required to make a down deposit of 50% of total rent plus security deposit. That is ($360 +$300 = $660) to hold the apartment for your date. Remaining rental balance to be paid on arrival at the apartment . The security deposit will be refunded to you on your day of departure from the apartment provided nothing is damaged or lost in the unit.

Before we could proceed with the booking of the unit, I will have to send you the booking/contract form . You will fill it and send it back to me . That will be a kind of bind between us

I want you to know that there are lots of bidders who are interested in the apartment , It is always on first come first serve basis.

Accepted Payment methods are
Us Bank Check
Wire transfer to our company's account.

Let me know if you would like to proceed with the booking so i can forward the booking/contract form to secure the apartment for your dates. . Looking forward to your reply




Regards

Daniel Kaat
Gloria Enterprises
400 Fifth Avenue
New York,
NY 10018
USA
+1 315-939-8965
+1 920-368-6729

This person asks for a deposit payment via Western Union, MoneyGram or bank transfer with a promise that you can have the keys to a property that does not belong to him.

Sounds safe. It's not!

At other times, he will ask for proof that you are able to pay the deposit and rent due to a string of time wasters.
This proof is in the form of a Western Union or MoneyGram payment to a lawyer,a friend or family member.

In either case, if payment is made and you give this person the details, they will collect the money.
You will not hear from them again.

If you are reading this because you are looking for property to rent, and you are in contact with this thief you are probably searching Craigslist, Gumtree or similar listing sites. If you receive any requests from 'Landlords' asking for some kind of payment before viewing, then it will also be a scam. Please forward the mail to me at the address in my signature line and I will investigate and list them if necessary.

Company’s Lawyer : Sandra Osborne ([email protected])
4. PAYMENT METHOD :TO BE MADE TO MY COMPANY’S
LAWYERS ACCOUNT
Bank Name : Bank of America <--Reported
Bank Address : 103 E 23rd St, New York, NY 10010
Name on Account : Sandra L. Osborne,
Account # : 139100037417
Routing # : 026009593
swift code: BOFAUS3N
Owners Address : 205 W 24th St New York, NY 10011

Bank Name : Wells Fargo Bank <--Reported
Bank Address : 784 Broadway,New York, NY 10003
Account Name : Daniel Kaat
Account number : 3446396297
Routing number : 121000248
Swift Code : WFBIUS6S

Also uses the name: "Glorias Enterprises"

NYC rental scam, using name of Paulo, posted on Air bnb. Bank account names, Sandra Osborne and Latisha Cortez. email @netzero.net.


From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>

Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: Air bnb apartment



Thanks for the patronage reply, I got your information and have it saved for the booking/reservation purpose. It is sure one of the best apartment you will be lucky to stay here in New York at this reduced rate.The Classy and beautifully furnished 2 bedrooms apartment comes with two queen size bed and a sofa bed The apartment is located on 158 W 86th St, New York, NY 10024, United States. It can accommodate comfortably. suitably furnished with modern amenities, air-conditioning, Wireless internet, DVD, LCD TV, laundry soap , toilet paper, towels, linens, hair dryer, soaps basic, central heating, telephone, alarm clock and security system . it a private unit and has a private packing space without any additional fee.

Your dates May 27th to August 5th is Available (2 months)

Monthly Rate = $3500(discounted price , All utilities included)

2 Months = $7000

Security deposit = $300


To secure the Apartment for your dates you required to make a down payment of 50% of one month rent that is $1750 plus a fixed refundable security deposit of $300 . Therefore the total down deposit is $2050 to secure the unit for your date


The remaining rental balance of $1750 to be paid on arrival. The other month to be paid after the expiration of the first month

Payment methods include the following

US BANK CHECK
BANK TO BANK TRANSACTION


You are to choose the best options that suits you, We do not accept credit card over the email but we accept to charge your card when you are at the apartment .

The damage security deposit of $300 will be refunded to you on your departure date provided nothing is damaged or lost in the unit during your stay.

Please note that I will have my apartment removed from airbnb site if we both agreed on this terms of reservation so i can stop people from contacting me because your dates has filled up the remaining space in my rent calendar.

Here are some recent renters for you as reference , You can touch base with them to know more about me and the apartment.

1)Daniel Kaat : From Wisconsin , spent one month([email protected])
2) Catherine Kurds : from Canada spent 10 nights([email protected])
3)Lilian James : From Ohio , Spent 2 weeks.([email protected])
4) Josh Platini : From Italy ,Spent 16 nights ([email protected])
5)Salas Franklyn : from UK , Spent one week ([email protected] )


Let me know if this is okay by you so i can send you a booking form for you to fill in and send back to me ,I will also send you reservation confirmation as soon as the filled form is returned then you can let me know the best method of payment that suits you so we can finalize the deal and have the unit reserved fully for your date, Await to hear back from you as soon as possible.

Regards
Paulo

Hi all,

I think it is the same scammer of the last post.
Again on airbnb.

Dear Matteo,

Thanks for the prompt respond, here is the bank details below kindly get back to me with the confirmation that is done and also your flight details so that i will meet you at the JFK airport to take you down to the apartment.

account name.....DANIEL HERMAN SCHROEDER.
bank name........CITIZENS COMMUNITY CREDIT UNION.
bank address.....GRAND FORKS,NORTH DAKOTA.
swift code.......FTBCUS3C.
account number...00020611093.
routing number...291378266..


Or Western Union........

Name ..........DANIEL HERMAN SCHROEDER.
Address.......309 RAIL ROAD AVENUE, NORTH DAKOTA, USA.

I will be waiting for your reply.

Regards...

Dan.




----Messaggio originale----
Da: [email protected]
Data: 30/04/2012 10.49
A: Removed - CW
Ogg: Re: R: Re: Reservation Dan Places

Dear Matteo,

Thanks for the information, am going to forward your details to my Attorney so that he will get the contract /reservation form ready for you to sign, it will be mail to you, but before then here is the details about the payment and fees for the apartment.

Rate per night = $135
6 nights = $810
Refundable security deposit = $300.

You are to make a down payment of 30% with the refundable security deposit making a total fees of $570. The refundable security deposit will be return back to you on your date of checking out so far there is no lost or damage of any items in the apartment.
So for you to hold the apartment for your dates, this payment have to be made to my Attorney' account either by Bank transfer or Western union.

Kindly let me know how you want to proceed.

Regards....

Dan.

Regards.
Matteo

I got this email after booking an appartment:
I did not pay the amount, think it's the same person...

From: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Date: woensdag 30 mei 2012 06:22
To: xxx
Subject: Re: Booking successfully accepted! (3AT5ISRS New York)

Dear X
I got your message and the date is confirmed for June 12th to 20th. I want you to know that the security deposit is to be paid before arrival , this is a guarantee for us that you won't cancel at the last minute because Wimdu will not compensate any late cancellation as it does affect us. You will get the security deposit on your day of departure from the unit in cash. Your reservation with us is not guaranteed until this security deposit is received by my attorney . A receipt of the security deposit will be issued to you as soon as the money is confirmed . Let me know if this is alright by you so we can proceed with this. Looking forward to your reply
Regards
Daniel


Dear X
Thanks for the understanding , Here is my Attorney account details to make the payment to .

Name of bank : Wells Fargo
Bank address : 120 West 17th street, New york NY, 10011
Account name : Sandra Osborne,
Address : 543 East 5th Street,New York. NY 10009
Account number : 6454750792.
Routing number : 121000248
swift code: WFBIUS6S

Please send me the payment confirmation as soon as the payment is sent. Looking forward to your reply

Regards
Daniel

Be aware of people named Sandie (Sandra) Lee Osborne and Ruben Riggins!!

We booked an apartment thru http://www.wimdu.com in New York City in Meatpacking/Chelsea District. This seemed to be a great offer (almost too good) but we just got cancelled and took it. After wimdu debited our credit card and confirmed the booking we received the following e-mails:

10.05.2012, 10:55 from "[email protected]"
Thanks for your mail response and for your booking reservation for the details and your details will be keep in my database for record purpose for your arrival date and for your booking reservation to be sealed and secure final. Refundable security deposit of $500 to be paid to my lawyer bank account and the security deposit is refundable on the day of moving out provided nothing has been damaged or lost in the apartment .Once the payment confirmed i will issue payment receipt with the invoice for booking confirmation final with 100 % guarantees with international renter association stamp and i will be the person to pick you up at the airport to the apartment to hand over all the keys to you on your arrival date and show you the doorman and around the apartment so mail me as soon as possible.
Regards
Sandie

11.05.2012, 00:41 from "[email protected]":
Hello XXXX
thanks for your mail response and for your understanding and here is my lawyer bank account details for you make the transfer and as soon as you make the transfer get back to me with the transfer details

Bank Name:....... WELLS FARGO
Bank Address:....99 PARK AVE, NEW YORK, NY 10016
Owner Name:.......RUBEN RIGGINS
Account Number:.. 820 114 7132
Routing number:.. 121 000 248
Swif tcode:...... WFBIUS6S

And once the payment confirmed i will issue payment receipt with the invoice for final confirmation with 100 % guarantees with international renter association stamp and i will be the person to pick you up at the airport as i said to hand over all the keys to you on your arrival date and show you the doorman and around the apartment so mail me soon .
Regards
Sandie

We had some real trouble to transfer the money and therefore she had to give us more details. We then got the following e-mails:

11.05.2012, 09:23 from "[email protected]“:
Hello XXX,
thanks for your mail response and for your understanding and my lawyer mail me that there is upgrading going on in his bank for now so international transfer will not be able to enter his bank account and that is why and sorry for everything so you have to paid the refundable security deposit thought Western union money transfer to my name now so when i get the money i will send it to his bank account and here is my details below for you .
Received's Name --------Sandie Osborne
City : -----St. Anthony
States----- Idaho
Zip code---- 83445
Country ----USA

Once you send the money through western union money transfer and get back to me with the transfer details to confirmed it and once it confirmed i will issue you a payment receipt with the invoice for your confirmation and as i said on the phone i will come an pick you up at the airport to the apartment to hand over the all the keys to you and show you the doorman as well so mail me as soon as possible.
Regards

From: "[email protected]"
Date: 14. May 2012 13:44:31 MESZ
Re: BANK ACCOUNT DETAILS FOR YOU
Hello XXX,
thanks for your mail response and for your understanding and here is my lawyer address the one he use to open the account when he was formally in Alabama below so use it .
City----Birmingham
State---- Alabama
Zip code---35226
so go ahead with all this information and get back soon.
Regards
Sandie

From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: 15. May 2012 20:40:09 MESZ
Re: FULL APARTMENT ADDRESS
Hello XXX,
thanks for your mail response and transfer details and i will send it to my lawyer for the confirmed from his bank and as soon as he confirmed the payment i will issue you a payment receipt with invoice and i will need you arrival details as i to you so that i can be at the airport in time and here is the full address of the apartment so that you can use it what you need it for .

Full Address:.231 W 14th St
New York NY 10011
Manhattan » Chelsea
Cross street: 8th ave

Regards
Sandie


After we finally paid the $500 deposit, the booking got cancelled and our request for debit authorisation was rejected. Wimdu did not even try to help us to get the money back. They offered a voucher for future bookings because we got cancelled on short notice but stated that it’s not in their responsibility when money gets transferred directly to the host.
However that may be: even if you book thru an agent (like wimdu) and they promise you that “your money is safe”, “all properties are individually checked by our quality team” etc. you should NOT transfer any money directly!

Dear all,

I would like to sue this person, but with the amount of $1000 is not enought to take anyone to a court to give our money back, however I have the bank justifying the funds transfer so if you have it too, lets join us and sue him or them.
For foreign people we have to sue them in US Embassy.
If you are ready to get your money back, my e-mail is: removed-dotti

Regards,

Paula PS

Removed email address-posting it here leads to being targeted by more scammers (and spammers). Users can be reached via pm.

Welcome Paula,

As you can see above, I removed your email address. Posting it will make you a further target.

We do encourage reporting scams to the authorities, but also want to prevent people from holding onto false hope, as that can make them more vulnerable to recovery scams, where the scammer poses as the authorities and says he can get the scammer arrested and/or the victim's money back, while really setting them up to lose even more.


Chances of getting your money back are very nearly zero. In order to sue someone, you first have to know who the criminal is, and be able to prove it. The scammer has used fake names, locations, and information with you (and with all of his victims). The bank account may belong to a knowing accomplice, or it may belong to an innocent party who was also being scammed, for example, a victim of a job scam. If it belongs to an accomplice, the information on the bank account is very likely fake. If it belongs to a victim, he/she has forwarded the money and no longer has it--and he/she typically doesn't know the true identity of the criminal, either. Chances are the scam crosses international borders, so getting the answers and the evidence needed to support a claim require cooperation between governments, a process that is both costly and filled with red tape.