Room for Rent and other rental scams
by saraschmidt Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:12 pm
(Note: this is the first time I use this forum, so feel free to let me know if I'm not using this forum correctly.)

I just wanted to report that these rental scammers are posting flat ads in Switzerland as well. Short story--I was looking for a flat in Zürich and communicated with a person who claims to have a flat in Zürich but lives in the UK. There were a couple of things that made me "flag", but eventually what made me research more was that he asked me to pay the security deposit and the first-month rent via Western Union. At this point, I think I was aware that this was a scam, but I wanted to dig a little deeper, so I insisted that I only do business with wire transfer and demanded his bank account information. Also this last set of communication made me sense that this person doesn't know much about online banking and that is strange for somebody who used to live in Zürich... The bank account information I received included a bogus physical address of a branch--a dock in Liverpool. So I searched the info (SWIFT code etc.) online and hit this page. (Thank you for providing the scam information.) Below, I will summarize the bank account information I received. Hope this helps.

BANK NAME: LLOYDS TSB BANK
ACCOUNT NAME:Dominik Muller Lenz
ACCOUNT NUMBER: 21360768
SORT CODE: 779134
IBAN: GB19LOYD77913421360768
BIC: LOYDGB21J35
BANK ADDRESS: 135 Kings Dock, Liverpool, L3 4EX

His (her? whoever!) corresponding email address: [email protected]
Last edited by Con Warner on Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:31 pm, edited 1 time in total. Reason: Split and edited for clarity...

Sara Schmidt
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by Con Warner Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:29 pm
Hello
Sorry for the late reply. thanks for the mail . My name is Shayne Ward . Am a married man with a kid i live in Switzerland, i will like to know more about you . cos we need someone who is going to take good care of the apartment .before i can rent out the apartment, so tell us more about your self............

information about me.....

Age: 49
Date of Birth: 1 July 1965
Country: Switzerland
Occupation:business
Religion: christian
Marital Status: married
Kids: One son
Languages spoken: Good English, grammar, French


Best Regards


Thanks for your email i really love the way you mail me and the interest you have renting my apartment.We are the owner of the Apartment you are making inquiry Actually i and my wife resided in the Apartment before were transferred out of the country .The Apartment is still available for rent for 720chf (includes utilities).Located in the active center of 27 Laurenzenvorstadt Aarau 5000 , overlooking a car free area, this apartment has been entirely remodeled in a spirit of great comfort, with a modern design. On the second a level, it is very light in the daytime and at night due to inspired ambiance lighting. will allow you to relax comfortably after long days around Aarau. The apartment is equipped so that you have the option to have breakfast in the kitchen in front of the window, or eat in your room at the table provided. The Neighborhood : You will appreciate the location of the apartment, as it is close to many lively areas, businesses, boutiques, and restaurants, It is also within a five minute walk to the station, the famous modern art museum, a ten minute walk to the fabulous neighborhood,To access the many to her attractions of Aarau, the forum "Les Halley", only five minutes away by foot, is a hub of many modes public transport: the Metro, the higher speed RER, and Meteor, providing rapid access to all areas of Aarau. For the athletic guests, an Olympic pool is based on the bottom floor of the forum.


CAREFULLY READ AND DIGEST well: CONDITIONS:

Price: sfr 720 (Monthly)
Bedrooms: 1½ rooms Apartment
Address: 27 Laurenzenvorstadt Aarau 5000
Size: 56 m² / 565 ft² (ft²)


1.Party 's agreed very well taken care of the apartment.
2.Parties agreed not to use the premises public company.
3.Pet allowed.
4.Party 's down payment do and acknowledge receipt to me or my lawyer
to prove his / her severity towards the agreement before! in.
5.Party 's agreed to stay in the apartment with a maximum of 4 tenants.
6.Party 's agreed not to make unnecessary noise which might disturb
other neighborhood.

IF YOU ARE REALLY INTERESTED PLEASE FILL THESE INFORMATION'S BELOW:

FIRST NAME:__________?
MIDDLE NAME:__________?
LAST NAME:__________?
DATE OF BIRTH:_________?
PROFESSION:__________?
PHONE:__________?
(CELL)PHONE__________?
(WORK)PHONE__________?
(HOME)PHONE__________?
MARITAL
STATUS:__________?
KIDS _____ (YES/NO),
HOW MANY ________?
PRESENT ADDRESS: _____________________?
CITY: _______________?
STATE:______________?
ZIP CODE: ____________?
HOW LONG? ___________IF RENTING
WHY ARE YOU LEAVING__________?
IF THIS HOUSE IS BEING GIVEN TO YOU,
HOW LONG DO YOU INTEND STAYING? ____________?
WHEN DO YOU INTEND MOVING IN? ______________?
IF YOU HAVE A PET,
KIND OF PETS: _____________?
HABITS
DO YOU SMOKE ______________ ?
DO YOU DRINK ______________?
DO YOU WORK LATE NIGHT? ____?

Looking forward to hear back from you with all this details so that i can have it in my file in case of issuing the receipt for you and contacting you,i will email you the Tenancy Rent Application Form. Await your urgent reply so that we can discuss on how to get the document and the keys to you,please we are giving you all this based on trust and again i will want you to stick to your words,you know that we have not seen yet and only putting everything into Gods hands,so please do not let us down in this our property and God bless you more as you do this.

Thanks for the inquiries and God bless you.

Best Regards

Shayne

Email: [email protected]

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by MikeS Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:31 am
It would appear that the same guy is at it again under a new pseudonym. I was also attempting to find a flat in Zurich and found what I thought was a great flat through the University of Zurich's property Marketplace. The story I was given is almost identical to the one posted by Con Warner and sarahschmidt however he/she was operating under the name REMY CLAUDE and from the email address [email protected]. The bank details supplied to me were exactly the same as the one supplied below by sarahschmidt. Please be aware of these Zurich apartment rental scammers. Luckily I have friends in Zurich so in the end I went through them in order to know I was dealing with legitimate people.
by MikeS Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:35 am
saraschmidt wrote:(Note: this is the first time I use this forum, so feel free to let me know if I'm not using this forum correctly.)

I just wanted to report that these rental scammers are posting flat ads in Switzerland as well. Short story--I was looking for a flat in Zürich and communicated with a person who claims to have a flat in Zürich but lives in the UK. There were a couple of things that made me "flag", but eventually what made me research more was that he asked me to pay the security deposit and the first-month rent via Western Union. At this point, I think I was aware that this was a scam, but I wanted to dig a little deeper, so I insisted that I only do business with wire transfer and demanded his bank account information. Also this last set of communication made me sense that this person doesn't know much about online banking and that is strange for somebody who used to live in Zürich... The bank account information I received included a bogus physical address of a branch--a dock in Liverpool. So I searched the info (SWIFT code etc.) online and hit this page. (Thank you for providing the scam information.) Below, I will summarize the bank account information I received. Hope this helps.

BANK NAME: LLOYDS TSB BANK
ACCOUNT NAME:Dominik Muller Lenz
ACCOUNT NUMBER: 21360768
SORT CODE: 779134
IBAN: GB19LOYD77913421360768
BIC: LOYDGB21J35
BANK ADDRESS: 135 Kings Dock, Liverpool, L3 4EX

His (her? whoever!) corresponding email address: [email protected]


Hi saraschmidt,

Just wanted to thank you for posting this as it saved me a HUGE amount of problems. I got to the contract signing stage and when he/she sent me the contract it had Dominik Muller Lenz on one of them which I found odd seen as the guy I thought I was dealing with posed as Remy Claude. I then googled the name Dominik Muller Lenz and your post was the top result. A MASSIVE thank you for taking the time to write to me and saving me a world of trouble!

Regards.

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