Room for Rent and other rental scams
by Michelle Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:40 am
From: Georgiev Georgi <[email protected]>
To: Michelle Banks
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 12:54
Subject: Grant House, 90 Liberty Street, LONDON, SW9 0BZ

Hello,
This is the full address: Grant House, 90 Liberty Street, LONDON, SW9 0BZ
I work in a hospital and I can't take a "vacation" when I want. I can't take the risk to leave my new job for days and when I arrive in UK to see that I come for nothing. I want to be 100% sure.
It looks exactly like the pictures, more than that I did its a few weeks ago, precisely to place the ad and since then, nobody went there, in the apartment. You decide the period of the contract, for me if the period is bigger,is better, or if you prefer we can do it for one year with possibility of extension.
As I told the monthly rent is 500 Pounds, for the whole apartment and for entry I ask one month deposit and one month rent in advance. The rent you will have to pay me every month through a transfer, because I'm in Portugal, I hope this is not a problem for you. Regarding the receipt of keys and signing the contract, I think the best option to solve it early is to go to an agency who is responsible for transporting packages and they can help us with the transport of the keys and with the contract signature . I can send you the keys and the contract signed by me and the agency can make it arrive within two days and with the agent you can visit the apartment. If you like it ,at that moment the agent of the company makes you sign the contract after you read it, but if you do not like it and you reject it, no problem, the agent is responsible to bring me back the keys and you are free of any obligation.
If you're interested I will going tomorrow to the company to leave the keys and the contract.
For the expenses of the agency do not worry, I'll pay for these services.


I wait for your replay


From: Georgiev Georgi <[email protected]>
To: Michelle Banks
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 13:27
Subject: RE: Grant House, 90 Liberty Street, LONDON, SW9 0BZ


All the utilities bills are included in the rent price.
We will use a Real Estate Property Uk Agency for the safety of both parts ,it's a very well known and safe Real Estate Property Uk all over the world .
Let me explain you how the transaction will go step by step: first i will go to Real Estate Property Uk Department with the package ( keys of apartment ) and start the delivery procedure, second you will be notified by Real Estate Property Uk to know the transaction has been initiated and they will give you all instructions on how to complete the payment to their Real Estate Property agent. After they will have the confirmation of payment from you will have the package delivered ( keys of apartment ) to your address and they will hold the payment until you will confirm that you are satisfied and everything is alright . So after you will see it if everything is as you expected so you must contact them to release the payment and we're done . If everything sounds good for you please send me your full name and address and I will go to the nearest Real Estate Property Uk office and start the delivery procedure asap:

First name:
Last name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Country:


Thank you so much.

From: Georgiev Georgi <[email protected]>
To: Michelle Banks
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 17:54
Subject: RE: Grant House, 90 Liberty Street, LONDON, SW9 0BZ

www.realestateproperty-uk.com
You can move this week, everything can be done in some days.
With your dates I go to Real Estate Property Uk and I leave the keys and the contract and immediately after, an agent Real Estate Property Uk contact you to confirm you the service and the fact that I left the keys and the contract at the company Real Estate Property Uk , also will send you a report with all necessary information, you have to analyze it and confirm your information.
Before starting any transaction, Real Estate Property Uk requests from the receiver ,in this case from you, to confirm that you were willing to receive the keys. As proof of yours acceptance, Real Estate Property Uk requires from you the payment of the deposit for the apartment, deposit + 1 month rent in advance; the payment must be made through a transfer at Real Estate Property agent in charge to transport the keys. The money transferred at the company is the sign that you have to give for get the keys and make the visit to the apartment together with the Real Estate Property Uk agent.
Real Estate Property Uk agrees to keep the money until the keys will be on your position and you will be able to visit the apartment.
You must do the transfer according the instructions given by Real Estate Property Uk and send the transfer receipt at Real Estate Property Uk After the confirmation of the payment Real Estate Property Uk starts the process of transmission. Within a maximum of 24 hours the agent Real Estate Property Uk communicates with you to fix the visit of the apartment.
After seeing the apartment you will make the decision if you rent it or not. If you believe that my apartment is not what you need you must say this to Real Estate Property Uk agent, present there with you, that the decision is to not rent. In that case the agent Real Estate Property Uk has a duty to return you the money that you leave as a sign with the agency, meaning the money you advance through Real Estate Property Uk for the apartment. The return of the money will be made immediately,in cash. But if the apartment is what you want the visit will be continued with the signing of the contract that the agent will put at your disposal. In this case, the keys remain in your possession (you can move there as we agreed) and the representative of the Real Estate Property Uk will ask you for a subscription agreement in which you give your permission so the company can give me the deposit money you made .
Immediately after I sign the transport contract with Real Estate Property Uk and I leave the keys, Real Estate Property Uk will contact you to give you all details of the shipping and the delivery of the keys, all the information about how make the deposit payment, and you can benefit of permanent assistance from the Real Estate Property Uk staff for any questions concerning this request.
All costs of transport services of the agency I'll pay it, you only have to pay the deposit + 1 month rent in advance


The thief will tell you that you can rent his accommodation only if you can prove that you have genuine interest. He will ask you send money by wire transfer (normally Western Union) to yourself or a member of the family to show that you have sufficient finances and that you are not a "time waster".

Another variation of this scam is that you need to send (by Western Union) money in order that the keys and other documents can be couriered to you

He will ask you to send him the transfer details.

Make no mistake ! Western Union Transfers can be picked up virtually anywhere in the world and with the minimum of identification. They are almost impossible to trace once the money has been collected. You will never get to see the accommodation or your money again.

If you are reading this because you are looking for property to rent, and you are in contact with this thief you are probably searching Gumtree or similar listing sites. If you receive any requests from 'Landlords' asking for some kind of payment by Western Union before viewing, then it will also be a scam. Please forward the mail to me at the address in my signature line and I will investigate and list them if necessary.
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by alloallo Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:47 am
I have also been the victim of this - as if they can't even be bothered to change the details.

________________________________
> > From: Georgiev Georgi [[email protected]]
> > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 12:32 PM
> > To: Beth Hall
> > Subject: The Stream Edge, City Centre, OX1 1HT
> >
> > Hello,
> > This is the full address: The Stream Edge, City Centre, OX1 1HT
> > I work in a hospital and I can't take a "vacation" when I want. I can't take the risk to leave my new job for days and when I arrive in UK to see that I come for nothing. I want to be 100% sure.
> > It looks exactly like the pictures, more than that I did its a few weeks ago, precisely to place the ad and since then, nobody went there, in the apartment. You decide the period of the contract, for me if the period is bigger,is better, or if you prefer we can do it for one year with possibility of extension.
> > As I told the monthly rent is 700 Pounds, for the whole apartment and for entry I ask one month deposit and one month rent in advance. The rent you will have to pay me every month through a transfer, because I'm in Portugal, I hope this is not a problem for you. Regarding the receipt of keys and signing the contract, I think the best option to solve it early is to go to an agency who is responsible for transporting packages and they can help us with the transport of the keys and with the contract signature . I can send you the keys and the contract signed by me and the agency can make it arrive within two days and with the agent you can visit the apartment. If you like it ,at that moment the agent of the company makes you sign the contract after you read it, but if you do not like it and you reject it, no problem, the agent is responsible to bring me back the keys and you are free of any obligation.
> > If you're interested I will going tomorrow to the company to leave the keys and the contract.
> > For the expenses of the agency do not worry, I'll pay for these services.
> >
> >
> > I wait for your replay
> >
by Matt_parker Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:04 am
Same this happened to my girlfriend but for a flat in london, found the advert on gumtree, requested a weston union transfer, what a kn obber!

We have refuesed all the way through about the weston union as it always seemed dogy, but pretty much word for word emails to the ones above...

On 18 Feb 2013, at 18:10, Geo G <[email protected]> wrote:


Hello,
This is the address: Montague Road, Edgbaston, Birmingham, B16 9HR
I work in a hospital and I can't take a "vacation" when I want. I can't take the risk to leave my new job for days and when I arrive in UK to see that I come for nothing. I want to be 100% sure that when I will meet you, we do the rent papers then I can come back in Portugal.
So I can be sure of that look how we can do
You make the payment from your name and address to your wife name and address in UK using Western Union (Money In Minutes Service) for 3 months rent that means 1200£ and send me the scanned receipt. As soon as I see the scanned receipt that you have made the payment, I will come in UK and you will see the flat and maybe rent it. After that, we will go together at the Western Union office and you will take the money back and pay me cash.So all you have to do is to find a Western Union office and wire 1200£ from your name to your friend name(can be your wife, your brother, anyone in you have trust) and send the scanned receipt.I am asking you this to be sure that I do not come in UK for nothing. I hope you understand.
Also, very important, the utilities water hot/cold, electricity, heating, gas, Internet, cable, parking space, dishwasher, garbage disposal, are included in the price.

Please send me an e-mail asap with your decision, because I want to know what i have to do in future.


P.S : As I told you,I have a lot of customers interested to rent the apartment. I will reserve the apartment to you if you promise me that you will send me the proof. As soon as I have the confirmation from you I will stop the transactions with all the other customers!
All taxes and fees what are paid by the customer will be deducted from rent.

I will wait your e-mail soon.

Respectfully!


On 18 Feb 2013, at 21:29, Geo G <[email protected]> wrote:


The problem is that I have the keys with me. I could accept 2 month rent if you are really interested.
I've came two weeks ago in UK for a person "interested" in renting my apartment and when I've arrived in UK and I called that "interested" person he did not answer to the phone and my emails. So I lost my time and money for nothing.
I'll buy a fly tickets and I will lose two days from work and I want guarantee. I don`t ask to send me money, I want only to see a transfer made from someone from your family to you or from you to someone from your family or friend in Uk through Western Union. In this way I can check the status on their web site. After I see that the money it is available I will buy my flight ticket. When we meet you can pick up the money and give it to me after we sign the contract rent.


On 19 Feb 2013, at 11:04, Geo G <[email protected]> wrote:


I can`t check a bank statement, the transfer through Western Union can be checked on their web site.I want to see that the money exist and you are really interested in this flat.
I can come this weekend and you can move immediately.


On 19 Feb 2013, at 14:56, Geo G <[email protected]> wrote:


I don`t want to pass again through the problems that I had 2 weeks ago.
I can send you my identity card and driving license if you want. I can make the contract rent and send it to you.
I want to see something that I can check it, this way I want a Western Union transfer, to see it available all the time until I arrive in UK.


On 20 Feb 2013, at 13:01, Geo G <[email protected]> wrote:


I sent you the contract. I attach it in the email.
I can come this weekend in Uk, after I see the receipt I will buy my flight ticket.


On 20 Feb 2013, at 13:33, Geo G <[email protected]> wrote:


800 pounds are for the first 2 month, for March and April. next rent you will pay it on 01st May .
when can you make this transfer? I want to come this weekend to show you the flat and you can move when you want.


Subject: RE: Montague Road, Edgbaston, Birmingham, B16 9HR


I accept a copy of the receipt with all other info blanked, I want to see the date, stamp and balance.


Not cool! I've found his phone number if you fancy giving him a talking to, it can be found here
http://www.gumtree.com/p/jobs/mr-georgi-georgiev/1004466035#1


This has 100% confirmed that he is a dirty dirty theif.
by Matt_parker Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:47 pm
07449980044 link has now been taken down.

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