by jun13env
Tue May 14, 2013 6:23 am
Could you please determine if the following email and context from [email protected] is a kind of fraud or I'm just paranoid.
(I'm sorry if my english sounds strange, I'm not native english)
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From: ***** <*************>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 11:36:43 PM
Subject: Tenant inquiry from gottarent.com on 09-May-2013 17:36:21
http://www.gottarent.com/Default.aspx?T ... el=details
Property: Simcoe Street Toronto Ontario M5H 4E9
Name : *******
Email : ************
Phone : *****************
Move in : May 19
For : 6-12 months
Size : 1 Bedroom
Comments: I'm not canadian residence, but I need a place to stay for 1 year or more. what document do you need? what do you require for the rental?
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Robert Campbell <[email protected]>
May 10 (4 days ago)
to me
Hello
Thanks for your interest in my apartment .The apartment is still available for rent and is available for long term/short term lease. I'm a Mechanical Engineer and I just got a job with S & W Engineering Company in Manchester, England. I work as a Senior Project Supervisor and i will be here for long that is why am putting up my apartment for rent.
The apartment is located at: 140 Simcoe Street, Toronto, ON M5H 4E9, Canada
This unit is available as long as you want it.furnished 1bed/1bath apartment ,The apartment is strategically located in a very cool and lovely environment with many appliances including dish washer with in-suite laundry room and plenty of storage space and parking space . Professional and mature neighbors ensure peaceful living arrangements. Freshly painted.The rent is $650 per month including utilities and security deposit of 500 which is refundable at the end of your stay...I will like you to drive by to the building today to view the exterior of the building for you to know where the apartment is located and get back to me so that I can forward you the full interior pictures for you to have an idea on how beautiful and spacious the inside looks and we can proceed to the next step which is the application process..
Thanks for taking your time in writing me and hope to hear back from you.
Many thank
Thanks for the mail and the interest in my apartment, the whole flat cost $650 per month including utilities, meanwhile, the refundable deposit is $500. The flat is freshly painted, neat and fully furnished with all your needs including internet computer with printer, ins-suite laundry as well as 1 parking space, attached to this email are the interior pictures of the apartment, because the apartment is currently locked up at the moment and i will be happy to rent out my apartment to you for the period you want it, if you do promise me that you will take care of the place once you move in and i want you to know that i moved out of the my apartment with my family due to the new job i secured here England, so like i told you i am not in Toronto to show you the apartment in person, am now in England, that is why i stated you will have to drive by the apartment to view all the exteriors for you to have a better idea where the apartment is located then fill out the rent application form in order for me to proceed on how the keys and document of the apartment will be delivered to your current address and how you will make payment to me Via Money Transfer agent at any moneygram local store agent nearest to you, so get back to me with your rental form so i can get the lease prepared forward it to you, so you can sign and get back to me and i will make delivery arrangement immediately.
********RENT APPLICATION FORM*******
(Private and Confidential)
FIRST NAME: __________________
MIDDLE NAME: __________________
LAST NAME: __________________
PROFESSION: ________________
PHONE (____) __________ (CELL)
PHONE (____) __________ (WORK)
PHONE (____) __________ (HOME)
MARITAL STATUS: _________
KIDS _____ (YES/NO), HOW MANY ________
PRESENT ADDRESS: ___________________________
CITY: _______________
STATE: ______________
POSTAL CODE: _____________
WHAT IS YOUR MOVE IN DATE______________
HOW MANY MONTH RENT CAN YOU PAY UPFRONT TO SECURE THE APARTMENT NOW ? ___________
HOW LONG ARE YOU STAYING IN MY HOME? ____________
Await your respond so i can proceed with change of names and address of new tenant on the lease form and making delivery arrangement to your current address via DHL Express Courier service.
Many thanks
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I've sent the detail upon the request above and he sent me another email
Robert Campbell
May 10 (4 days ago)
to me
Hi again,
I'm very sorry for not getting back to you earlier. Find the attachment of the lease agreement form for you to preview before the final print out and signature, do note that the parcel that will be mailed to you will contain the keys, payment receipt, signed lease agreement form and all every other necessary papers you needed to move into my apartment as soon as possible, so i will be glad if you could confirm the provided address below if that is the correct address where the keys and the documents are to be delivered to. I and my family had approved you as our new tenant because we can see your willingness in our apartment, and be noted, the money is not really the issue but need a very clean/tidy tenant who can take very good care of our apartment, am saying this because the last time I traveled and rented my apartment to some one, the person destroyed some of my property and it cost me a lot of money to replace those property and i wouldn't want that to repeat again. I want you to know that the keys, payment receipt with all documents will be delivered to you by DHL COURIER SERVICE while your (first month rent of 650) has to be paid before the shipment of the keys and documents, the payment should be made through MONEYGRAM to the below information, and i want you to promise me that the apartment will be well taking care of, once you move in and make sure you are update me with the pictures once you move in.
The necessary arrangement has been made, so below is where the keys and documents will be deliver to.
1)Receiver"s Name: ******** ********
2)Receiver"s Address: ****************************************************************
3)Receiver"s Email : ***********************
4)Receiver"s contact: **********************
As soon as the payment is made and confirmed i will send the below package's to you through DHL COURIER EXPRESS delivery service package.
1)Entrance and the room Keys.
2)Move in Papers/ approved form.
3)The apartment documentary file.
4)Payment Receipt.
5)Signed Lease Agreement Hard Copy
So you will go to any MONEYGRAM outlet/office near to you and send the payment to the INFO BELOW.
Receivers Name: Mr. Robert Campbell
Receivers Address: 3 Demesne Road,
City: Manchester
Zip-Code: M16 8HG
Province: England
Country: United kingdom
Phone #: +447864207787
As soon as you get the payment sent, the below information will be giving to you and it will also appear on the receipt that will be issued to you at MoneyGram outlet/office, which you will have to get back to me with it.
Senders Name:
Senders Address:
MTCN(Control number) #:
Amount sent:
Hope to read from you as soon as you make the payment so that the keys can be posted out immediately and you can get it as soon as possible and then you can move into the apartment at any of your convenience time.
Your swift response will be appreciated.
Robert Campbell
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I've transfer money through MoneyGram as he requested and another email come after
Robert Campbell
5:41 PM (23 hours ago)
to me
Thanks for your best reply with the information, kndly note that I am just seeing your message, I will get ba0k to you with the tracking details once confirm the money.
Thanks
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Robert Campbell
7:36 PM (21 hours ago)
to me
Hello,
I will be glad if you could go back to where the money was sent and rectify the problem because the transfer status said the money is not available at my location. Do go back to where the money was sent and get back to me as soon as possible.
Thanks
Robert
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The latest email I sent to him :
9:59 PM (18 hours ago)
to Robert
Can you send me the parcel with in tomorrow please, I leave the city on this thursday evening. u're willing to send me the rent document and the key after you've confirmed the money, right? I have sent it. I'll check the money with the bank for you tomorrow morning and will get back to you asap.
I'm serious about this because it's my cash and I need a place to stay as soon as I get there.
Details removed - CW
12:46 PM (4 hours ago)
to Robert
The bank officer said that u have received the money about 8.40 am. I hope to get the parcel contained with apartment keys and documents soon. Please send me tracking number after u've sent me the parcel.
Thank you
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I hope these email replies are not one of fraud system meanwhile I think he is a thief somehow. I hope to hear the truth from you so I could move on. Also, if this guy is a scam, I wish my experience would be told so that another people will know and pass over and be more careful on rental thief.
(I'm sorry if my english sounds strange, I'm not native english)
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From: ***** <*************>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 11:36:43 PM
Subject: Tenant inquiry from gottarent.com on 09-May-2013 17:36:21
http://www.gottarent.com/Default.aspx?T ... el=details
Property: Simcoe Street Toronto Ontario M5H 4E9
Name : *******
Email : ************
Phone : *****************
Move in : May 19
For : 6-12 months
Size : 1 Bedroom
Comments: I'm not canadian residence, but I need a place to stay for 1 year or more. what document do you need? what do you require for the rental?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Robert Campbell <[email protected]>
May 10 (4 days ago)
to me
Hello
Thanks for your interest in my apartment .The apartment is still available for rent and is available for long term/short term lease. I'm a Mechanical Engineer and I just got a job with S & W Engineering Company in Manchester, England. I work as a Senior Project Supervisor and i will be here for long that is why am putting up my apartment for rent.
The apartment is located at: 140 Simcoe Street, Toronto, ON M5H 4E9, Canada
This unit is available as long as you want it.furnished 1bed/1bath apartment ,The apartment is strategically located in a very cool and lovely environment with many appliances including dish washer with in-suite laundry room and plenty of storage space and parking space . Professional and mature neighbors ensure peaceful living arrangements. Freshly painted.The rent is $650 per month including utilities and security deposit of 500 which is refundable at the end of your stay...I will like you to drive by to the building today to view the exterior of the building for you to know where the apartment is located and get back to me so that I can forward you the full interior pictures for you to have an idea on how beautiful and spacious the inside looks and we can proceed to the next step which is the application process..
Thanks for taking your time in writing me and hope to hear back from you.
Many thank
Thanks for the mail and the interest in my apartment, the whole flat cost $650 per month including utilities, meanwhile, the refundable deposit is $500. The flat is freshly painted, neat and fully furnished with all your needs including internet computer with printer, ins-suite laundry as well as 1 parking space, attached to this email are the interior pictures of the apartment, because the apartment is currently locked up at the moment and i will be happy to rent out my apartment to you for the period you want it, if you do promise me that you will take care of the place once you move in and i want you to know that i moved out of the my apartment with my family due to the new job i secured here England, so like i told you i am not in Toronto to show you the apartment in person, am now in England, that is why i stated you will have to drive by the apartment to view all the exteriors for you to have a better idea where the apartment is located then fill out the rent application form in order for me to proceed on how the keys and document of the apartment will be delivered to your current address and how you will make payment to me Via Money Transfer agent at any moneygram local store agent nearest to you, so get back to me with your rental form so i can get the lease prepared forward it to you, so you can sign and get back to me and i will make delivery arrangement immediately.
********RENT APPLICATION FORM*******
(Private and Confidential)
FIRST NAME: __________________
MIDDLE NAME: __________________
LAST NAME: __________________
PROFESSION: ________________
PHONE (____) __________ (CELL)
PHONE (____) __________ (WORK)
PHONE (____) __________ (HOME)
MARITAL STATUS: _________
KIDS _____ (YES/NO), HOW MANY ________
PRESENT ADDRESS: ___________________________
CITY: _______________
STATE: ______________
POSTAL CODE: _____________
WHAT IS YOUR MOVE IN DATE______________
HOW MANY MONTH RENT CAN YOU PAY UPFRONT TO SECURE THE APARTMENT NOW ? ___________
HOW LONG ARE YOU STAYING IN MY HOME? ____________
Await your respond so i can proceed with change of names and address of new tenant on the lease form and making delivery arrangement to your current address via DHL Express Courier service.
Many thanks
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I've sent the detail upon the request above and he sent me another email
Robert Campbell
May 10 (4 days ago)
to me
Hi again,
I'm very sorry for not getting back to you earlier. Find the attachment of the lease agreement form for you to preview before the final print out and signature, do note that the parcel that will be mailed to you will contain the keys, payment receipt, signed lease agreement form and all every other necessary papers you needed to move into my apartment as soon as possible, so i will be glad if you could confirm the provided address below if that is the correct address where the keys and the documents are to be delivered to. I and my family had approved you as our new tenant because we can see your willingness in our apartment, and be noted, the money is not really the issue but need a very clean/tidy tenant who can take very good care of our apartment, am saying this because the last time I traveled and rented my apartment to some one, the person destroyed some of my property and it cost me a lot of money to replace those property and i wouldn't want that to repeat again. I want you to know that the keys, payment receipt with all documents will be delivered to you by DHL COURIER SERVICE while your (first month rent of 650) has to be paid before the shipment of the keys and documents, the payment should be made through MONEYGRAM to the below information, and i want you to promise me that the apartment will be well taking care of, once you move in and make sure you are update me with the pictures once you move in.
The necessary arrangement has been made, so below is where the keys and documents will be deliver to.
1)Receiver"s Name: ******** ********
2)Receiver"s Address: ****************************************************************
3)Receiver"s Email : ***********************
4)Receiver"s contact: **********************
As soon as the payment is made and confirmed i will send the below package's to you through DHL COURIER EXPRESS delivery service package.
1)Entrance and the room Keys.
2)Move in Papers/ approved form.
3)The apartment documentary file.
4)Payment Receipt.
5)Signed Lease Agreement Hard Copy
So you will go to any MONEYGRAM outlet/office near to you and send the payment to the INFO BELOW.
Receivers Name: Mr. Robert Campbell
Receivers Address: 3 Demesne Road,
City: Manchester
Zip-Code: M16 8HG
Province: England
Country: United kingdom
Phone #: +447864207787
As soon as you get the payment sent, the below information will be giving to you and it will also appear on the receipt that will be issued to you at MoneyGram outlet/office, which you will have to get back to me with it.
Senders Name:
Senders Address:
MTCN(Control number) #:
Amount sent:
Hope to read from you as soon as you make the payment so that the keys can be posted out immediately and you can get it as soon as possible and then you can move into the apartment at any of your convenience time.
Your swift response will be appreciated.
Robert Campbell
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I've transfer money through MoneyGram as he requested and another email come after
Robert Campbell
5:41 PM (23 hours ago)
to me
Thanks for your best reply with the information, kndly note that I am just seeing your message, I will get ba0k to you with the tracking details once confirm the money.
Thanks
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Robert Campbell
7:36 PM (21 hours ago)
to me
Hello,
I will be glad if you could go back to where the money was sent and rectify the problem because the transfer status said the money is not available at my location. Do go back to where the money was sent and get back to me as soon as possible.
Thanks
Robert
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The latest email I sent to him :
9:59 PM (18 hours ago)
to Robert
Can you send me the parcel with in tomorrow please, I leave the city on this thursday evening. u're willing to send me the rent document and the key after you've confirmed the money, right? I have sent it. I'll check the money with the bank for you tomorrow morning and will get back to you asap.
I'm serious about this because it's my cash and I need a place to stay as soon as I get there.
Details removed - CW
12:46 PM (4 hours ago)
to Robert
The bank officer said that u have received the money about 8.40 am. I hope to get the parcel contained with apartment keys and documents soon. Please send me tracking number after u've sent me the parcel.
Thank you
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I hope these email replies are not one of fraud system meanwhile I think he is a thief somehow. I hope to hear the truth from you so I could move on. Also, if this guy is a scam, I wish my experience would be told so that another people will know and pass over and be more careful on rental thief.
Last edited by Con Warner on Tue May 14, 2013 7:00 am, edited 2 times in total.
Reason: Removed poster's personal details