Room for Rent and other rental scams
by Michelle Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:10 pm
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:36:28 -0700
From: [email protected]
Subject: FLAT AVAILABLE.............£800 all inclusive
To: Michelle


Hello Michelle

Thanks for your mail. I am a very young comfortable professional Lady,27 who works has an hair stylist in my own hair dressing shop being the Manager. I would like to rent out a one bedroom Flat with a garden to a very easy going person at 800 per month including all bills.available now for you to occupy not shared apartment..My apartment is very comfortable fully furnished flat .Located in quiet residential area is fully furnished with digital home cinema, hi-fi system, VCR, DVD player, phone, fax, computer, cable/satellite, internet access, wardrobe, cupboard, Hanging wardrobe, safe deposit box, radio alarm clock, hair dryer, fully air-conditioned, central heating, intruder alarm, fire alarm and more.Large fully equipped kitchen, toilets and unlimited wireless internet. I don't want any problem for myself.., i need to know the person that will occupy my apartment that is, the person that will take care of my apartment like theirs because am letting the flat out because am presently working in Newcastle. It is not compulsory that i rent out the flat but if i can get a reliable and tidy person that will take care of my flat for me i can let it out.so i need to know them better i.e what you and your partner do for a living.
Waiting to read from you.


Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:23:08 -0700
From: [email protected]
Subject: THINKING ON THE VIEWING OF THE FLAT.............£800 all inclusive
To: Michelle


Hello Michelle

Thanks for the reply.I would love to meet you, get to know you and show you round the flat so that you can see what you are renting but I have been having problems with time wasters who could not keep to there end of deal.Its really time wasting because i am a very busy person and do not really have much time to waste. To me, every seconds count.you 're generally interested out of my naturally tight daily schedule as am always attending to customers there by restricting me to the internet as my only medium of communication. viewing will not be a problem, Anytime during the week in the evening would be a good date for our meeting.The rent is still very Low considering the current economic climate in London..

Can you please answer the following questions?

-Are you really serious about the renting the flat?
-How many are you to occupy the Flat?.
-If you love the flat when you see it, will you make the payment to hold it against your move in?why I am asking these questions is basically because of my experience with my last tenant.Frank moved into my flat in JUNE:2009,on commencing the tenancy, he paid a total sum of £537.50 in rent hoping that he would pay up the balance unknowingly he provided a fraudulent employers reference to convince me of having a stable job! Although i served him with Section 8 and Section 21 Notices and obtained a Court Order for possession of the property, he was reluctant to move out or pay any of the rent arrears.County Court bailiffs got him evicted and his total debt to date is £1,263 (Quitemuch). I will prepare all the necessary documentations i:e Contract Form:which we will both sign after being satisfied with the flat.Payment will be made after signing the contracts and keys will be handed over to you once contract is made.Please,understand that i am NOT asking you to pay me BEFORE you view the flat.The neighborhood is safe and i guess you have heard much about this area?it is a safe, clean area.

-Your rent begins on your move in date..
-Viewing is never a problem.
-Proof of ownership and Documentation will be shown upon viewings.
-There is no minimum or maximum stay.
- Rent include Council Tax,electricity,gas,internet, e.t.c
-Its 800pcm and 800 refundable deposit.

Kindly get back to me about an idea on what we can do so that we can arrange a meeting for viewing.

Thanks while hoping to read from you.
Regard.



The thief will tell you that you can rent his accommodation only if you can prove that you have genuine interest. He will ask you send money by wire transfer (normally Western Union) to yourself or a member of the family to show that you have sufficient finances and that you are not a "time waster".

Another variation of this scam is that you need to send (by Western Union) money in order that the keys and other documents can be couriered to you

He will ask you to send him the transfer details.

Make no mistake ! Western Union Transfers can be picked up virtually anywhere in the world and with the minimum of identification. They are almost impossible to trace once the money has been collected. You will never get to see the accommodation or your money again.

If you are reading this because you are looking for property to rent, and you are in contact with this thief you are probably searching Gumtree or similar listing sites. If you receive any requests from 'Landlords' asking for some kind of payment by Western Union before viewing, then it will also be a scam. Please forward the mail to me at the address in my signature line and I will investigate and list them if necessary.
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by Ralph Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:59 am
Hi Lyv, welcome to Scamwarners.

I am glad you realise that it's a scam, if you have any questions please ask
by Michelle Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:01 am
Welcome to Scamwarners Lyv

Please could you post the two e-mails that you have mentioned (just remove your own e-mail address)

It can help others (including me) to see exactly the words that the scammer is using.
by Lyv Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:22 am
I was also victim of another scam from [email protected] and Janet John <[email protected]


David John <[email protected]>
à l
date 4 juin 2010 20:31
objet Re: Reply to your ad: n Unbelievable Low Price For this Spacious 1 Bedroom Flat(South Kensington)


Hello,Its good reading from you.My name is David John,the owner of the 1bedroom Flat you are making inquiry about...My Family and I were staying in the flat before but due to the transfer from my working place ,we moved away,my Flat is situated in SOUTH KENSINGTON Rosary Gardens SW7 4NT, London UK..presently my Flat is very available for rent for 400GBP per month including the utilities like gas,internet,hydro,washer, council tax and a secured parking Space and it is fully furnished .right now, I am in West Africa for a crusade therefore, i will like you to get in touch with my wife in the United states for more details & pictures of our flat as She is with the keys and the documents to the Flat..I would really want someone that will keep it tidy all the time,So that,eventually when I come to London I wil be so happy to see it neat and well..So,Where are you located? let us know how soon you are willing to move in as we are deciding very soon on who to take our flat.Please send email to my wife Janet on ([email protected]) she is going to attend to you better.
Best Regards.


Then :
Janet John <[email protected]>
à
date 5 juin 2010 09:27
objet Re: Reply to your ad: n Unbelievable Low Price For this Spacious 1 Bedroom Flat(South Kensington)

Hello,my husband owns the Flat,also want you to know that it was due
to my husband's transfer that made us to leave the Flat and looking
for a responsible person that can take very good care of the it, we
are not after the money for the rent (which is why is so low)but want
it to be clean all the time.So for now,I am in Greensville NJ in the
United States in our new home for a seminar and also I am with the
keys and documents of the Flat since the agent we trusted let us
down,so viewing won't be possible for now as we will never trust any
agent nor realtor due to the bad experience we've had.We don't want
the Flat to be used any how in our absence that is why we took the
keys and documents along with us here since my husband is also in West
Africa for a mission for God's Work.
Hope you are okay with the price per month with
hydro,gas,electric,internet facilities,council tax all included in the
monthly rent...View pictures in the attached files.I am looking
forward to hearing from you as soon as possible so that i can forward
you an application to fill out and discuss on how to get the
apartment for rent.
Hope to read from you soon.
Jane.


Janet John <[email protected]>

date 5 juin 2010 10:35
objet COPY OF THE APPLICATION FORM

Hello ,
Thanks for promising to care for our flat. Our flat is located in a
safe area and a very good and quiet street.The garden has different
houses and our flat garden has a car park as well.So dont be bothered
as you will love to live in our flat because it is one of the best.
Everything is intact and there is nothing to repair.
Below are the final questions that you must answer to qualify for the
rent.You can rent our flat for a long term or short term on monthly
basis.We are ready to give out our flat for maximum of 2years but you
can as well let us know whenever you feel to move out from our
flat..Its available to move in now.
Note that you will are not allowed to enter the flat now until
everything is being finalize as the keys/document is here with me in
New jersey.

*******RENT APPLICATION FORM *******
(Private & Confidential)


Also,Pls let me get this answer.
1)Your Full Name
2)Present Full Address(where you reside now) & Phone Number to Reach You
3)Age
4)Are you married?
5)How many people will be living in the house?
6)Do you have a pet?
7)Do you have a car?
8)Occupation?
9) Citizen of which Country?
10) When are you ready to Move In ?
11) When are u planning to leave the flat ?
12) How many months rent can you deposit upfront (plus security
deposit(300GBP which will be given back to you after the contract)??

Looking forward to hear from you with the application form being
filled.Once i get your application form,I will be forwarding it to my
husband for approval.If he doesn't approve it,theres nothing i can do
about it but if he does,then you are lucky as we have alot of offers
that are also ready to move in ASAP.Await your urgent reply so that we
can discuss on how to get the documents and the keys to you..Please,I
believe that we have to do this transaction based on Trust & Honesty
and please do not let us down on this property of ours and God bless
you more as you do this.
Just fill out the application form above and email it back to me so
that i can forward it to my husband for approval..
Thank you so much and have a Wonderful Day..
God Bless..

Mrs John .


anet John <[email protected]>
à
date 5 juin 2010 11:43
objet Re: COPY OF THE APPLICATION FORM FORWARDED


Hi,
I am very glad to hear back from you.Like I told you my hyusband and I
are not currently around so which menas viewing will not be possible.
I am very very pleased with your details and your words. and i have
forwarded it to my husband for approval which i am very sure he is
going to approve.

Therefore,i want you to relax and dont bother look for another vacancy
as our flat is very sure for you.
My husband is currently online and i am waiting to hear back from
him.I will get back to you in few minutes time and immediately i hear
back from him.
Thank you for your time and God Bless you.
Regards,
Mrs John.


Janet John <[email protected]>
à
date 5 juin 2010 18:10
objet PROFILE ACCEPTED AS OUR NEW TENANT

Hello ,
Thank you very much for your interest in our Flat, I can see your willingness in this Flat and want to Congratulate you that you are the one chosen to take our flat. I want you to know that we are satisfied with your profile and also believe l can trust you because I would not
be happy if you fail to keep to your promises. I want you to know that we can let you stay in our flat till the period of time you wish to and also reserve our flat for you until you pack in. I hope you are aware that all the utilties are included in the monthly rent. My husband will be receiving the move in deposit payment from you via Western Union or Money Gram.From your application l can see that you are responsible and a hard working person ,may the Almighty
Lord lead you in what ever you wish to do

Accommodation Features
...............................
.....................
Wood Floor :
Heater :
Central Heating :
Equipped Kitchen :
Tv: Cable/Satellite TV:
Video/Stereo:
Internet :
Air Conditioning:
• Full Kitchen
• Refrigerator:
• Garage/Car park
• pets allowed.
Kitchen Features
......................... ...........
Washing machine :
Juice Machine :
Iron :
Toaster:
Oven :
Dishwasher :
Coffee Maker :
Microwave :
Refrigerator:
Stove:
As soon as the deposit is confirmed via Money Gram or Western Union,I will go ahead and commence on how the keys/documents of the flat will be delivered to you via DHL Courier service on Next Day Delivery and it will have to be delivered to the address you gave in your
application form..I will advice you send the deposit now and I will also proceed to ship out the keys/documents to you immediately through DHL NEXT DAY EXPRESS AIR DELIVERY and will email you the tracking details as instructed by my husband so that you will be able to pick up the keys/documents at your Doorstep the next day and you could move into our flat as soon as you want and you will as well will be given a month's free which means your contract will start a month after you move into our flat..Once again We're giving you this flat based on trust and do not disappoint us because we dont want our flat to be destroyed,Here are the contents that will be delivered to you via DHL courier service .
1) Entrance and the rooms Keys
2)Paper/Permanent Flat form(Containing your reference details)
3)The Flat documented file.
4)Payment Receipts.
5)Full address and description of the Flat.
Let me know if i can forward my husband's details for you to send the deposit through any Money Gram or western union outlet closest to you.

LET ME KNOW I CAN SEND THE MY HUSBAND'S DETAILS TO YOU NOW SO THAT YOU
CAN SEND THE DEPOSIT THROUGH ANY WESTERN UNION OUTLET CLOSER TO YOU.
Please reply NOW.


And you can also reach my husband via this mobile number +2348-0644-561-01
Regards,
Mrs Janet David.


Here you notice her name is Janet John and she signs Janet David.. weird..


Janet John <[email protected]>
à
date 5 juin 2010 22:28
objet MY HUSBAND PAYMENT DETAILS

Hello,

Thanks for your time and interest.
The reason we decided to keep it this way is because the last time we gave our flat address to a man,he broke into our flat and took our valuables away,so we dont want to experience that kind of incidence anymore,I will include the full description of the flat in package I shall send to you.
I am giving you my word that everything will be fine.My husband is a man of God and as soon as he confirms your deposit,i will go ahead and have the keys and documents sent to you.Please you can go ahead and make the deposit now and I will commence with the shipment as well.I am giving you my word.
Here below is my husband 's details to send the money:Make sure you Send the Money asap .
Here are the details to send the money below:

***Name-- ------ David John
***Address- ----6 Allen Avenue,Lagos Nigeria

Question and Answer to use at the Western union if requested:
**Question-- In God
**Answer--- We trust

And get back to me with the following:

***Sender's name and address:-
***MTCN/Control number:-
***Exact Amount Sent:-

I will make sure i ship the Keys/Documents to your address immediately you make the payment and it will be delivered the next day at your door step. I will like you to stick to your word as well immediately you get the Keys/Documents in your possession.Looking forward to hearing from you.Thanks again for your understand and God bless.
Please get back to me asap.
God Bless.



And then I insisted to view the flat, and here is her answer :

I understand your worries...But we have done this before through friends and agent but they let us down ,,I am assuring you that immediately my husband confirms this deposit via Western union I will go ahead and send this keys and documents to you asap because my husband is a man of God and does things accordingly.Please do this and let me have the western union control number.
Thank you once again in anticipation.



Hopefully, I didn't send money. I hope it helps some people!!

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