Room for Rent and other rental scams
by Michelle Mon May 10, 2010 10:31 am
From: Dott. Gabor < [email protected] >
Subject: R: Reply to your ad: flat to rent in Bournemouth
To: Michelle
Date: Tuesday, 4 May, 2010,

Hi,
My name is Gabor and I have this flat for rent. The flat is situated in Manor Road, Eastcliff, Bournemouth .
First off all i want to tell you something about me ... I recently moved in Italy for 3 years because my job ... I'm working in a Hospital . The rent is £420 per month including all bills and council tax . You can rent the flat as long as you need to stay even for 2 or 3 years. The first payment will be for 3 months £1260 (one month is in advance £420 and the rest £840 is a guarantee for my flat ) . This money £840 you will get back when we finish the contract if the flat is in good condition . In case you want it, let me
know so we can arrange the transaction. For me is very hard to come in UK and if I will come i must be 100% sure that I will not come for nothing. As you can see in the photos everything it's new in the flat and the flat is fully furnished and also benefits from wood flooring. You have internet connection, phone, washing machine with dryer, cable TV and most important parking place.

I wait your response.

Respectfully!
Gabor,


From: Dott. Gabor < [email protected] >
Subject: Re: R: Reply to your ad: flat to rent in Bournemouth
To: Michelle
Date: Tuesday, 4 May, 2010, 5:30

Hi,
I work in a hospital and is very hard for me to come in UK. I can't take the risk to leave my new job for days and when I arrive in UK to see that I come for nothing. I want to be 100% sure that when I will meet you, we do the rent papers then i can come back in Italy.
2 weeks ago i had a bad experience . One person contacted me to rent my flat but when i was in england i find no one , never response at my email . In this way i lost my 3 days from my work and i lost my money ....
So i can be sure of that look how we can do:
You make an deposit with the money that you will pay me for 3 months rent thats means £1260 using Western Union . You will find an Western Union agency , go there and send the money to an your best friend name or an your familiar name . Once the payment is made you will send me the scanned receipt paper from Western Union by email so i know the payment is made . In this way i'm sure you have all the money to rent my flat . As soon as I see the scanned receipt that you have made the payment, I will come in UK and you will see the flat and rent it . After that, we will go together at the Western Union office and you will take the money back and pay me .
So all you have to do is to find a Western Union office and wire £1260 from your name to your friend name and send the scanned receipt.I am asking you this to be sure that I do not come in UK for nothing. I hope you understand.

P.S : As I told you,I have a lot of customers interested to rent the apartment. I will reserve the apartment to the first one that provides me the scanned paper from Western Union. As soon as I have the confirmation from Western Union that the money are available on his name I stop the transactions with all the other customers!
In case that you don`t know how to use Western Union, all you have to do is to go at the nearest Western Union office in your city and you talk with an agent to send some money to a friend. When you will make the transfer you will have to pay a small fee at Western Union which is around 40-50 £ that I will deduct it from the total rent. The money will stay in the Western Union system till we will sign the rent papers and both we will go to a Western Union office and you will pick up the money and pay me.
If you accept my conditions I wait your e-mail. I don't want you to feel offended if i'll not answer you in case of a negative answer,because I don't see the reason why we should continue to write eachother,since I will not accept any other way to close the deal.

Respectfully!
Gabor



The thief will tell you that you can rent his accommodation only if you can prove that you have genuine interest. He will ask you send money by wire transfer (normally Western Union) to yourself or a member of the family to show that you have sufficient finances and that you are not a "time waster".

Another variation of this scam is that you need to send (by Western Union) money in order that the keys and other documents can be couriered to you

He will ask you to send him the transfer details.

Make no mistake ! Western Union Transfers can be picked up virtually anywhere in the world and with the minimum of identification. They are almost impossible to trace once the money has been collected. You will never get to see the accommodation or your money again.

If you are reading this because you are looking for property to rent, and you are in contact with this thief you are probably searching Gumtree or similar listing sites. If you receive any requests from 'Landlords' asking for some kind of payment by Western Union before viewing, then it will also be a scam. Please forward the mail to me at the address in my signature line and I will investigate and list them if necessary.
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by thanks Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:20 am
Hello,
The rent is £420 per month for the flat including all bills (water , electricity ) . I don't ask for a big amount because i want to find a family that is really needed this flat , to keep in order and cleaning the flat .
In this moment i'm not in U.K. and I can't give the exactly address of the flat. Not offended but many bad stories happen in U.K. and I do not know what kind of person you are. For the conclusion of the contract in need to come in U.K. .
We must meet in U.K. and go together to the vision of flat and if you are satisfied we will go to make the rental contract. I assure you there will be no reason for which you will not like this apartment. As you can see on this pictures the flat is fully furnished and equipped with everything you need to live decently and i can't rent the flat without the guarantee because there is more goods of mine .
I'm waiting your email . Thanks,


Hello,
Thanks for your email. I hope you understand my English . Excuse me if I make mistakes but my English not so good. First I want to provide some information.
My name is Gabor Bosanszki , i'm from Hungary ... Right now I live with my family in Italy . I work here in Italy, I have a 5 year contract with a big company . I work in construction . The flat was at my uncle who unfortunately which is no longer among us because he had a serious accident . I am the only relative survivors and this flat is now mine. My wife does not want to sell the flat and I decided together to rent this flat . Is a beautiful apartment situated in Caister Hall, Conisbrough Keep, Coventry , in excellent condition, fully furnished and equipped . There is internet connection, phone, washing machine with dryer, cable TV and most important parking place. The rent is £420 per month including all bills and council tax . You can rent the flat as long as you need to stay but minimum 6 months . The first payment will be for 3 months £1260 (one month is in advance £420 and the rest £840 is a guarantee for my flat ) . This money £840 you will get back when we finish the contract if the flat is in good condition . In case you want it, let me know so we can arrange the transaction. Accept families with children I also accept animals (dogs, cats). I don't t want just people referenced. I want to rent this flat a family that is really needed which do not damage and for that i don't ask for a big rental amount .
I will wait your email so i know if you are interested to rent this flat .
Thanks ,



Hello,
I tried to rent this apartment but I had a bad experience. Two weeks ago I was contacted from a person interested to rent the flat and made me come in U.K. and spend money for the flying tickets, I finally arrived in U.K. and I waited two days and this person has never arrived and I responded more to the phone and my email ...
I'm working here in Italy and is very hard for me to come in UK. I can't take the risk to leave my new job for days and when I arrive in UK to see that I come for nothing. I want to be 100% sure that when I will meet you, we do the rent papers then i can come back in Italy.
So i can be sure of that look how we can do:
You make an deposit with the money that you will pay me for 3 months rent thats means £1260 using Western Union . You will find an Western Union agency , go there and send the money to an your best friend name or an your familiar name . Once the payment is made you will send me the scanned receipt paper from Western Union ( PRINTED RECEIPT COPY OF THE TRANSFER ) by email so i know the payment is made . In this way i'm sure you have all the money to rent my flat . As soon as I see the scanned receipt that you have made the payment, I will come in UK and you will see the flat and rent it . After that, we will go together at the Western Union office and you will take the money back and pay me .
So all you have to do is to find a Western Union office and wire £1260 from your name to your friend name and send the scanned receipt . I am asking you this to be sure that I do not come in UK for nothing . I hope you understand.
As I told you,I have a lot of customers interested to rent the apartment. I will reserve the apartment to the first one that provides me the scanned paper from Western Union. As soon as I have the confirmation from Western Union that the money are available on his name I stop the transactions with all the other customers!
If you accept my conditions I wait your e-mail. I don't want you to feel offended if i'll not answer you in case of a negative answer,because I don't see the reason why we should continue to write eachother,since I will not accept any other way to close the deal.

Respectfully!
Gabor
by Torek Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:07 am
Moved from Personal accounts of scams - Michelle

This is identical to the wording in the Bournmouth ad - though he is now an engineer (not working in a hospital) ...
They were indeed beautiful pictures.

Hello,
As you can see on this pictures the flat is fully furnished and equipped with everything you need to live decently and i can't rent the flat without the guarantee because there is more goods of mine . The rent is £420 per month for the flat including all bills (water , electricity ) . I don't ask for a big amount because i want to find a family that is really needed this flat , to keep in order and cleaning the flat .
In this moment i'm not in U.K. and I can't give the exactly address of the flat. Not offended but many bad stories happen in U.K. and I do not know what kind of person you are. For the conclusion of the contract in need to come in U.K.
.



--- Mar 22/6/10 ... ha scritto:

>>> "Dott. Gabor" <[email protected]> 22/06/10 3:22 PM >>>
Hello,
Thanks for your email. I hope you understand my English . Excuse me if I make mistakes but my
English not so good. First I want to provide some information.
My name is Gabor Bosanszki , i'm from Hungary ... Right now I live with my family in Italy . I
work here in Italy, I have a 5 year contract with a big company . I work in construction . The flat
was at my uncle who unfortunately which is no longer among us because he had a serious accident . I
am the only relative survivors and this flat is now mine. My wife does not want to sell the flat and
I decided together to rent this flat . Is a beautiful apartment situated in Kings Road, Swansea , in
excellent condition, fully furnished and equipped . There is internet connection, phone, washing
machine with dryer, cable TV and most important parking place. The rent is £420 per month including
all bills and council tax . You can rent the flat as long as you need to stay but minimum 6 months .
The first payment will be for 3 months £1260 (one month is in advance £420 and the rest £840 is a
guarantee for my flat ) . This money £840 you will
get back when we finish the contract if the flat is in good condition . In case you want it, let
me know so we can arrange the transaction. Accept families with children I also accept animals
(dogs, cats). I don't t want just people referenced. I want to rent this flat a family that is
really needed which do not damage and for that i don't ask for a big rental amount .
I will wait your email so i know if you are interested to rent this flat .
Thanks ,
by FlossyJ Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:37 pm
Thanks to this website, I have now realised this man is a fraud! I didnt go very far through the process but definately thought this was toooo good to be true. He is currently active on GUMTREE and is advertising a flat in cardiff.

Very nice pictures but dont fall for it. Here is the e-mail i got from him:

Dott. Gabor ([email protected])

Hello,
Thanks for your email. I hope you understand my English . Excuse me if I make mistakes but my English not so good. First I want to provide some information.
My name is Gabor Bosanszki , i'm from Hungary ... Right now I live with my family in Italy . I work here in Italy, I have a 5 year contract with a big company . I work in construction . The flat was at my uncle who unfortunately which is no longer among us because he had a serious accident . I am the only relative survivors and this flat is now mine. My wife does not want to sell the flat and I decided together to rent this flat . Is a beautiful apartment situated in Waungron Road, Llandaff, CARDIFF , in excellent condition, fully furnished and equipped . There is internet connection, phone, washing machine with dryer, cable TV and most important parking place. The rent is £420 per month including all bills and council tax . You can rent the flat as long as you need to stay but minimum 6 months . The first payment will be for 3 months £1260 (one month is in advance £420 and the rest £840 is a guarantee for my flat ) . This money £840 you will get back when we finish the contract if the flat is in good condition . In case you want it, let me know so we can arrange the transaction. Accept families with children I also accept animals (dogs, cats). I don't t want just people referenced. I want to rent this flat a family that is really needed which do not damage and for that i don't ask for a big rental amount .
I will wait your email so i know if you are interested to rent this flat .
Thanks ,


Very simular to all the other e- mails on here! Be careful!

I am going to give him a piece of my mind! :D
by Crispy Duck Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:44 pm
Hi, FlossyJ & welcome to scamwarners :D
I am going to give him a piece of my mind!


Not a good idea, sadly (although we understand your wanting to!). If he finds that others know he's a scammer, he will change his identity & all the good work in advising others will be undone.

Best advice is to just ignore him & then you will, by adding your post, help others from being scammed by this idiot.

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