Room for Rent and other rental scams
by Iolostan Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:03 am
Hello, I was contacted via a berlin flatshare website after I posted my announcement. I'll post all the information here:

Mail 1: Hallo x,

Herr a (b- registrierter Nutzer)
schickt Ihnen auf Ihr Request bei WG-Gesucht.de folgende Nachricht
(achten Sie bitte auf unsere Betrugswarnung, siehe unten):
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Titel Ihrer Anzeige:
Computer Science Major looking for WG

Die Nachricht:
i have a flat consist of 2 separate rooms but got a female tenant in one room if you don't mind to rent the other room please write me back for details the flat is located in Charlottenburg.


Mail 2: Hello
The apartment is well equipped ,furnished Kitchen: built-in kitchen, Kitchenette, Refrigerator, Dishwasher, Micro wave, coffee machine, Kettle, Dish/cutlery Bath, Shower bath, Washing machine,furniture's Rooms: TV (Sat/cable), DVD, Radio, Phone, Internet

The rent per month including the Bills and utility Cost is 350 Euros and a security Deposit of 400 Euros which is refundable if you do not damage any of my properties in my Flat, while your stay there.because if you do make any damages the money of the damages will be deducted from the security deposit while the rest will be refund back to you and if you do not make any damages then the whole amount of the money will be refunded back to you.,the purpose of the deposit is just for security reason

The apartment is located Budapester Str, 10787 Berlin, Germany. Berlin's popular Kufürstendamm shopping street area.The famous Memorial Church on Breidscheidtplatz as well as the Berlin Zoo are each only a 2-minute walk away.Tegel Airport is only 6 km from the hotel and Zoologischer Garten Train Station offers connections throughout the city


Skype-lennart.oestargaard

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 7:58 AM, I wrote:
Dear b,


Thank you for your email, sorry for the response delay (the mail accidentally entered the spam folder).

I would like to know the following details:
- exact location (address)
- facilities (internet, heating, washing machine, refrigerator, electricity, kitchen)
- rent per month (with utilities - gas, heating, electricity, water, other).
- appartment year of contruction and energy certificate.

Thank you in advance,

I

Mail 3:
If you like the pictures of the apartment and interested in
renting the apartment. then you ll have to show a serious commitment
based on the pictures i sent to you,if you are okay with the pictures
then We can proceed with the necessary arrangement by signing a Lease
Agreement Contract with me to legalize the rent and after signing the
contract,you will have to make a payment of 1 month rent and the
security deposit in advance .


Below are the details that will be needed to prepare the tenancy agreement contract.
1.Your Full Name
2.Your Full Address
3.Your arrival and departure date
4.Your date of birth
5.A scanned copy of your ID to show a true identity of who will be
renting my apartment.



I will also send my Passport ID for you to know who you are dealing with.
Get back to me as soon as possible with the details so that i can send
you the tenancy agreement form and we can proceed with the arrangement
asap Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Regards

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:05 PM, I wrote:

Dear b,

I am interested in renting the appartment for z
My place of work starting november is y Berlin making the distance a bit longer than I planned.
I would also like to know some basic information about my possible future flatmate (age, occupation, habits) and of course I would like her to approve of me living there in order to avoid any possible future conflicts.
My job implies maximum seriousness and punctuality and I am a very organised and clean person. I traveled a lot during my student years and I always treat my accommodation as my own home. The pricing however is a bit over my budget. Therefore if you would be willing to lower the rent to 300 euros per month (all inclusive) for the 10-11 months of my stay, I will be more than happy to be a very good tenant and start all the arrangements towards our agreement.

Best regards,
x

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I am not sure wether to proceed or not with sending him any information:
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by Iolostan Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:23 am
This is a rental scam:
Scammer details:
Mail:
"Thomsen Oestergaard" <[email protected]>
skype: lennart.oestargaard
ip 197.255.172.210
Continent: Africa (AF)
Country: Nigeria (NG)
Capital: Abuja
State: Lagos
City Location: Lagos
ISP: Spectranet Ltd
Organization: Spectranet
Time Zone: Africa/Lagos
Local Time: 13:13:54
Timezone GMT offset: 3600
Sunrise / Sunset: 06:33 / 18:34
Extra IP Lookup Finder Info for IP Address: 197.255.172.210
Continent Lat/Lon: 7.18805 / 21.09361
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IP Language: English, Hausa, Igbo, Yoruba, Languages of Nigeria
IP Address Speed: Unknown Internet Speed
IP Currency: Nigerian naira (NGN)
IDD Code: +234

Contacted me on wg-gesucht.de after I posted a request add.
by Dotti Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:24 am
Your instinct is absolutely right.

It is a rental scammer.
After you sign the (completely fake and meaningless) agreement, you will be told you have to pay the deposit before you can see the room. Most likely it will be via WU/Moneygram, though occasionally the scammer will ask for bank transfer or a prepaid card.

Of course the scammer has no actual rooms to rent.

Need to post photos? http://scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3219
Are you a victim of a romance scam? Read here for advice and FAQ's.
by Eustaquia Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:32 pm
Hi!

I posted an ad looking for a room in Berlin and a day later, someone contacted me. This is the email that I received :

"Hello
The apartment is well equipped ,furnished Kitchen: built-in kitchen, Kitchenette, Refrigerator, Dishwasher, Micro wave, coffee machine, Kettle, Dish/cutlery Bath, Shower bath, Washing machine,furniture's Rooms: TV (Sat/cable), DVD, Radio, Phone, Internet

The rent per month including the Bills and utility Cost is 350 Euros and a security Deposit of 400 Euros which is refundable if you do not damage any of my properties in my Flat, while your stay there.because if you do make any damages the money of the damages will be deducted from the security deposit while the rest will be refund back to you and if you do not make any damages then the whole amount of the money will be refunded back to you.,the purpose of the deposit is just for security reason

The apartment is located Tempelhofer Ufer 12, Berlin, 10963, close to the trendy bars and restaurants of the Bergmannstrasse area.Overlooking the pretty Landwehrkanal canal, From there, you can walk to the Friedrichstrasse with its famous Checkpoint Charlie in about 15 minutes. The nearby Möckernbrücke and Hallesches Tor U-Bahn (underground) stations quickly connect you to all parts of the city.

The room is 20 square meters and the other Marisa is from Amsterdam 24 years old.while the other room is vacant because am no more staying in the room.

My name is -------- and i work as a ---------- and i have been working in ----------- so i have to rent my room to a nice calm tenant who will join Marisa and Anna to share the apartment.

If you think you are okay with this little introduction then you can tell me about you and also what you do and when you are moving in the flatd i have been working in ------ from November 2014 so i have to rent my room to a nice calm tenant who will join Marisa and Anna to share the apartment."


I've totally thought that it was a rental scammer at first... And I think, after reading this page I am a 100% positive of that , although I've looked on the Internet about the person that contacted me and he exists, plus he told me that I'll be paying after he handle me the keys, but even though, I don't trust him.
by Mike Wilson Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:29 pm
Welcome to Scamwarners Eustaquia,
It is a scam, the email that you received has direct quotes from an email posted at the begging of this thread. Please post the email address and the name the scammer is currently using as a warning to others who may be searching for information on this scam.

It is ALWAYS a scam
If the pet seller or shipper asks for money to be sent via Western Union, Money Gram, any brand of gift card. Walmart To Walmart , Zelle , PayPal friends and family option, or mentions Cameroon
by Eustaquia Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:24 pm
This is the email address :

[email protected]

and goes by this name:

Ludger Lamers

The pictures are exactly the same as the previous post (the other guy).

Hope it helps. I've already reported hit to WG Gesucht, where he contacted me.
by AnetteIda Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:50 am
I got the same request at WG- gesucht from this man called : Ludger Lamers

His mailadress : [email protected]

He send me this mail :
Hallo
The apartment is well equipped ,furnished Kitchen: built-in kitchen, Kitchenette, Refrigerator, Dishwasher, Micro wave, coffee machine, Kettle, Dish/cutlery Bath, Shower bath, Washing machine,TV, DVD, Radio, Phone, Internet

The rent per month including the Bills and utility Cost is 350 Euros and a security Deposit of 400 Euros which is refundable if you do not damage any of my properties in my Flat, while your stay there.because if you do make any damages the money of the damages will be deducted from the security deposit while the rest will be refund back to you and if you do not make any damages then the whole amount of the money will be refunded back to you.,the purpose of the deposit is just for security reason

The apartment is located at Jungstr.13, Friedrichshain-Kreuzberg, 10247 Berlin, Germany,great transport connections. The Alexanderplatz square is just 5 underground stops away,The Samariterstraße U-Bahn (underground) station is a 3-minute walk from the flat.

The room is 20 square meters and the other room is for Alice and she is from Israel 24 years old.while the other room is vacant because am no more staying in the room.

My name is Ludger and i work as a Choreographer and i have been working in Greece since November 2014 so i have to rent my room to a nice calm tenant who will join Alice to share the apartment.

If you think you are okay with this little introduction then you can tell me about you and also what you do and when you are moving in the flat.

Regards
by Feedragee Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:03 am
Thank you for the heads up, I received almost word for word the same emails as you have!
there was something fishy about the whole thing, because the person I was in contact with kept on refering to her "lawyer", and she sent me a signed contract, then asking me for the money transfer of the 1st month's rent + security deposit, which is fair, but the bank account wasn't in her name... and it refered to a bank in Ukraine, which made me unfomrtable in the first place (not dealing with a European bank...)
anyway, i googled her "lawyer" and that person has literally no traces in the internet...
I'm kind of screwed now because I don"t have a place to stay in, and I was supposed to move in 1 week from now.
Thanks for the warnings, this site is gold! I don't know if I should specify the names and email addresses of the scammer. Tell me if I should!
by Mike Wilson Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:03 pm
Hello Feedragee,
Please post the full email - minus your personal information - that asked the payment to be sent to bank. Include the full bank account information, name of the scammer is using, email address and telephone number is any. This information will help others avoid losing money to this criminal.

It is ALWAYS a scam
If the pet seller or shipper asks for money to be sent via Western Union, Money Gram, any brand of gift card. Walmart To Walmart , Zelle , PayPal friends and family option, or mentions Cameroon
by Feedragee Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:58 pm
Here are the various emails that I received. It was in relation to an offer I found on WG Gesucht for renting a room for 6 months in Berlin.
the name was Vera Buker, and the email address was: [email protected]
she kept refering to her "lawyer", and in the "contract" which she sent me, she specified that the name of the lawyer was Subocheva Dana Andriivna.
Also in the contract, she added:
Vera Buker, born 24.11.1987
Passport Nb: L7W06MLGH

Here's the first email i received:

Flat Amenities:
The Kitchenhas a Refrigerator, Dishwasher, Micro wave, coffee machine, Kettle and every other kitchen Untensils.
Shower bath, Washing machine.
Living Room:TV with cable, DVD,Home Theartre, Phone, Internet


Living Cost is 350 Euros per calendar month.
Security Deposit is 400 Euros which will be giving back to the tenant at the end of his or her stay in the flat.


Flat Location:

Tempelhofer Ufer , Berlin, 10963, close to the trendy bars and restaurants of the Bergmannstrasse area.Overlooking the pretty Landwehrkanal canal,From there, you can walk to the Friedrichstrasse with its famous Checkpoint Charlie in about 15 minutes.The nearby Möckernbrücke and Hallesches Tor U-Bahn (underground) stations quickly connect you to all parts of the city.

Room:
2 separate rooms Queen size bed,wardrobe,desk and a chair,each is 20 square meters,One is been taking already and the other room was my personal room but free right now because i am no more staying in Berlin.

Flatmate:
Alice is the name of the girl who rent the other room she s 25 years old from Israel and she s working as an architect and also learning German language.

About Me:
My name is Vera am working as a facilitator and event planner,At the moment i work in Ukraine and this started 2 months ago.The room is just locked with no one staying in it and since i already rent the other room i need someone to stay in the room and take care of it like it is their property.


If you are okay with all the details i have provided so far then you can write me back and tell me about you and why you are coming to Berlin.

Regards


Like i told you am working as a facilitator and event planner in Kharkov,Ukraine which is why am a very busy person,so am sorry for the delay in response to your e-mail.my number on whatsapp 004915216641377,The Flat has 2 rooms and Alice rent One and she will be sharing this with her friend Anna.And they are moving in the apartment next month too.Her contact is [email protected]


This is the pictures of the room,kitchen,living room and the bathroom.The room is my personal room which i just locked because there was some documents and books in the wardrobe which i really need to keep safe but i think i can move the books out and keep the document in another safe place and the room can be free for whoever is interested to rent the room,since am not always coming to Berlin like before i decide to rent the room to a tenant who is matured and understand to share a place with other people from different Europe country.

I don't smoke and i don't hate smokers but i don't like tenants to smoke in the room but they can at the balcony of the house,as you can see in the pictures the room is newly painted and i will not move anything out the room except my few things and the documents i have in the wardrobe.

If you are okay and will be a good tenant then i can rent the room for you,But i like a tenant who pays his or her rent whenever is due because i don't like to disturb the tenants peace .I am calm and understand and i don't give the tenants any trouble even my lawyer is nice and will not give you ant trouble while you are staying in the apartment.I always let the lawyer takes care of the contract and the rent.

Regards

then :

if you are okay with the pictures
then We can proceed with the necessary arrangement by signing a Lease
Agreement Contract with me to legalize the rent and after signing the
contract,you will have to make a payment of 1 month rent and the
security deposit in advance via Bank transfer.

Below are the details that will be needed to prepare the tenancy agreement contract.
1.Your Full Name
2.Your Full Address
3.Your arrival and departure date
4.Your date of birth
5.A scanned copy of your ID to show a true identity of who will be
renting my apartment.

I will also send my Passport ID for you to know who you are dealing with.
Get back to me as soon as possible with the details so that i can send
you the tenancy agreement form and we can proceed with the arrangement
asap Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Regards

then:

i saw the details you sent to me and i will forward this to my solicitor who will prepare the contract but the contract will be signed and forwarded to you tomorrow because the scan machine is at work.I will be glad if you are sure about the date you are coming to Berlin because i will have to come over a day before your moving into the flat with the lawyer so i will be glad if you are sure about the date you are moving in the flat.I will send the contract signed by my tomorrow and the bank details to make the transfer.If you are okay with the contract then you will sign on it then scan the signed page back to me and go on with the transfer then the lawyer will sign on the contract as well.

following day:

This is the signed contract by me after you read this and signed on it then you can forward the signed copy back to me.
Then you can go on with the transfer.The bank has an intermediary bank which is in Germany but if you get to your bank they will understand the details.


Below is the bank details for the transfer.

Beneficiary Bank: PJSC "CB" AccordBank"
Address: Stetsenka 6, Kyiv 04136, Ukraine
Beneficiary Account Number: 26209025173001
Account Name: SUBOCHEVA DANA ANDRIIVNA
Swift: ACDCUAUK
Intermediary Bank: Deutsche Bank AG, Frankfurt/Main Germany
Account Number. 100 9470808 00
Swift: DEUT DEFF

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