Room for Rent and other rental scams
by Michelle Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:24 am
From: Kay White < [email protected] >
Date: Thu, Jun 17, 2010
Subject: Re: Reply to your "2br - Fully furnished apartment for rent in Cape Town" Ad on Gumtree
To: Michelle


My name is Kay White own the 2 bedroom and 2 Bath home and also want you to know that it was due to my transfer that makes me and my wife and Son to leave the house and also want to give it out for rent and looking for a responsible person that can take very good care of it as we are not after the money for the rent but want it to be clean at the time and the person that will rent it to take it as if it were its own. So for now, We are here in West African, our new house and put all my worries off concerning the maintenance of the apartment for, since i am not residing there for now.I left behind some Facilities and electronics which include the rent, and a DVD player, air conditioning, alarm system. The kitchen is fully equipped with all necessary cooking utensils, refrigerator-freezer, four-hob and oven, microwave,dishwasher and washing machine, My Computer Connected with Internet Access and a good parking space. Also the keys to the House are right here with me, and the lease document. Which i can send to you after all necessary agreement has be accepted. Also i will like you to know that the rent charges is not really the issue ,but your absolute maintenance of my apartment is most important thing so will want you to get back to me with the Application form below.


RENT APPLICATION FORM

1)Your Full Name
2)Your Full Address & Phone Number
3)How old are you?
4)Are you married?
5)How many people will be living in the house?
6)Do you have a pet?
7)Do you have a car?
8 )Occupation?
9)When do you want to move in
10)How long do you want to stay in my apartment
11)Pictures of all the Occupant that will stay in my apartment
12}two month rent is needed to move in
13] Reference


HERE IS THE APARTMENT ADDRESS:- 502 Hove Mansions London Road, Sea Point Cape Town



One Mr Jone Dallas called me about the apartment,I told him that I can't give him the apartment because he loves smoking,drinking and don't want him to get drunk and damaged my property one day so If you are still interested, No extra fees.I will like you to give me a call on this effect to know how serious you are.below is my phone number +2348026274445 I personally will actually come visiting you sometimes during the year as my new tenant. but i will not sleep in the apartment with you for your privacy. Looking forward to hear from you with all this details so that i can have it in my file in case of issuing the receipt for you and contacting you. Await your urgent reply so that we can discuss on how to get the document and the keys of the house to you.

Thanks.


The thief will tell you that you can rent his accommodation only if you can prove that you have genuine interest. He will ask you send money by wire transfer (normally Western Union) to yourself or a member of the family to show that you have sufficient finances and that you are not a "time waster".

Another variation of this scam is that you need to send (by Western Union) money in order that the keys and other documents can be couriered to you

He will ask you to send him the transfer details.

Make no mistake ! Western Union Transfers can be picked up virtually anywhere in the world and with the minimum of identification. They are almost impossible to trace once the money has been collected. You will never get to see the accommodation or your money again.

If you are reading this because you are looking for property to rent, and you are in contact with this thief you are probably searching Gumtree or similar listing sites. If you receive any requests from 'Landlords' asking for some kind of payment by Western Union before viewing, then it will also be a scam. Please forward the mail to me at the address in my signature line and I will investigate and list them if necessary.
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by brettd Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:34 am
I am the owner of 502 Hove Mansions, London Road, Sea Point and I can confirm that this is a scam. I have also been informed of the followings scams, details below. I do rent this flat out but never without signing a lease agreement and viewing the flat in person, if you are not dealing with me, then you are not dealing with the owner of this flat.

BEWARE OF THE FOLLOWING SCAM

I rent a flat in Hove Mansions, London Road, Sea Point and I have had a Rev. Da Silva copy my ad and pictures in an internet scam for attemtpted fraud. I am posting this in order to try and raise awareness for this man and scam so that people will know who is is. If you see his ad, please report it to have it removed. He used a variety of different email addresses and names but the basics stay the same. If you do deal with him, you can send the info to the Police : [email protected]

As the owner for this flat I would only ever reply with an email from mailto:[email protected] . Remember you can ask as many questions as you want about a rental and if you are not happy about the answers and are suspicious then request more proof. Even proof that the person that you are dealing with owns the property in question. No legit landlord would use Western Union or Moneygram to receive a deposit. You may use a Bank Transfer as that will have a bank account at the other end with details of the account holder. Also the Landlord should be willing to provide you of proof that he is who he says he is, like provide a scan of a SA ID or Passport. Beware of fakes.

Here are the details I have for him:

Rev. Da Silva Gerald
[email protected]
[email protected]
Receiver's name: SALAKO SIKIRU
Address: 17 Oyster Street
City: Palm Avenue
State: Lagos
Country : Nigeria
Zip code : 23401

Text Question : Who is the Greatest???
Answer : Almighty God

Contact number: +2347027355861

And here are some of the fake emails he sends:

Hello,

Good hearing from you that you shall be promising us that our house will be well taken care of,and I appreciate your expression. So,i want you to stick to your words. Is that okay with you?And the below is the final question that you must answer to qualify for the rent of my house? The money is not my problem but i want you to take very god care of the house.

SO IF YOU ARE REALLY INTERESTED I WILL WANT YOU TO FILL THE RENT APPLICATIONS FORMS BELOW

Also,Pls let me get this answer.
1) Your Full Name .....................................
2) Your Full Address .........................................
3) Phone & Mobile Numbers ..........................................
4) Citizen or Country ? ..........................................
5) How old are you ? ............................................
6) Are you married ? ............................................
7) Sex ? .........................................
8) How many people will be living in the apartment? ..........................................
9) Do you have a pet ? ..........................................
10) Do you have a car ? .........................................
11) What is your Occupation ? .........................................
12) Short or Long Term Lease ? .........................................
13) When do you intend moving in : Date ? ........................................
14) When do you intend to moving out : Date ? .....................................
15) Deposit : One or Two month Deposit are required ..........................................
16) Occupant Picture .......................................
17) Reference Details ........................................
18) Passport or Driver's Lience Identity?..........................................

Looking forward to hear from you with all this details so that I can have it in my file in case of issuing the receipt for you and contacting you. Await your urgent reply so that we can discuss on how to get the house document and the key to you,please we are giving you all this base on trust and again i will want you to stick to your words,you know that,we have not seen yet and only putting everything into Gods hand,so please do not let us down in this our property and God bless you more as you do this..

Here is my direct Telephone Number i will answer your call anytime: {C}+2347027355861

I Await for your response.

Thanks & God Bless,
Rev. Da Silva



Good day,

Thanks for the email. I Rev. Da Silva the owner of the house and also it is situated at ( 502 hove mansions, london road, sea point Atlantic Seaboard).This house is in a great location. I am asking for R2500 per month including the utilities like Hydro, Air Conditioning , Utilities included , Dishwasher , Fridge Stove, Assigned Secured parking , microwave , Washer , Dryer , DSTV , Internet connectivity , Storage locker,security etc.I want you to know that it was due to my transfer that makes me and my wife leave the house and also want to give it out for rent and looking for a responsible person that can take a very good care of it as we are not after the money for the rent but want it to be clean all the time and the possible tenant will see the house as his or her own.

We left South Africa 3 weeks ago and we are currently in West Africa for our Job here as a Missionary. Before we left, we look for a reputable agent that will take a very good care of the house while we were away but could not found any so we left with the house keys and document when leaving. If you will be the right tenant to our house, I will like you to know that I am going to send you the Key and the house documents to you if you are fully interested so that you can have access to view the inside of the apartment.

So I will be online throughout to get back to you as soon as you are able to get back to me.I am looking forward to hear from you ASAP if you are really interested in renting the house so that I can forward you the house rent application to fill so that we can discuss on how you will be getting the the keys and house documents which will be sent to you via courier service.
I will want you to tell me little about the experience you have in taking care of house an moreso are you ready to rent it now or when? I am willing to rent it out for a short or long period depending on what terms you want.You can go and confirm the house address if you wish...

Here is my direct Telephone Number i will answer your call anytime: {C}+2347027355861

I Await for your response.

Thanks & God Bless,
Rev. Da Silva

Thank you very much for your email, here is my secretary details where you will be sending the deposit.. so you can just go now to any Money Gram outlet arround to make the payment and once the payment is been confirm we will ship you the package of the keys/documents to your address. so you can get back to me once you send the money.

Receiver's name: SALAKO SIKIRU
Address: 17 Oyster Street
City: Palm Avenue
State: Lagos
Country : Nigeria
Zip code : 23401

Text Question : Who is the Greatest???
Answer : Almighty God

Contact number: +2347027355861

Amount Sent :R2500

Note: You can use MoneyGram services at any Bidvest Bank and Standard Bank close to you. So write out the above details and walk down to any of this bank to make the transfer.
I want you to get back to me as soon as you get this and let me know as soon as you get the money sent so i can proceeds on the keys to you.We are also putting our trust in you and putting everything in the hands of God as we are good christains, i want you to be rest assured as we are looking forward in making you our new tanants and promise us not to let us down and once the payment is been confirmed then the Keys and document will be sent out Immediately and i will get back to you with the Tracking details. so once the money is been sent you have to get back to me with the below information

Sender's name
Sender's Address
Refrence # 8 digit number on the receipt
Amount sent

Thank you very much
Regards
Rev. Da Silva Gerald




Hello,


Thanks for your prompt reply, and also i can see your willingness in this rent your application form is being approved and you are now qualify for this rent. So as i shall be giving you my house, please again take care of the place so that i might be glad when coming to see how neat you keep the place. Hope everything about this process is fine with you. However,So if you are ready to rent the house now, that will not be a problem but i will advice you due to a responsible and reliable person like you to deposit the First month rent now to move in,Also we would like to send the following documents/keys to you via DHL to the address you provided so once i send it to this address and the tracking number will be sent to you. So that you can
possible occupy our apartment immediately. Once again,I am giving you this on trust and do not disappoint me and i promise you that you will love the house. I am are ready to give you the place for Short or Long term lease or more and because all we need is a responsible and reliable
person for the place....


Amenities
................................... ...................
# Bedroom : 1
# Bathroom : 1
# Sofa Bed : 1
# Bed Linen
# Small Guest Room

Accommodation Features
.......................................... ....................................
Wood Floor :
Heater :
Central Heating :
Equipped Kitchen :
TV: Cable/Satellite TV:
Video/Stereo:
Internet :
Air Conditioning:
* Full Kitchen
* Refrigerator:
* Garage/Car park
* pets allowed.


Kitchen Features
............................... ...........
Washing machine:
Juice Machine :
Iron :
Toaster:
Oven :
Dishwasher :
Coffee Maker :
Microwave :
Refrigerator:
Stove:


Here are the contents of the packages:
1)Entrance and the rooms Keys
2)Paper/Permanent house form (Containing your reference details)
3)The house documentary file.
4)First Month Rent Payment Receipt


So I am with your information here with me and I will like to know if you are ready for the payment of the first month rent so that i can proceed with the delivery of the KEYS to the address you provided in the Application Form , So let me know If I can send you the Information on how/where to send the money via Money Gram Transfer to my secretary info here in Africa , So I
can get all the package sent to you ASAP immediately your deposit is being confirmed.. I promise you that i would get back to you with the Tracking details and the Arrival time of the package of the keys tomorrow morning if the payment is done today......


Here is my direct Telephone Number i will answer your call: {C}+2347027355861

Can't wait to hear from you soon

Love in Christ and God Bless
Rev. Da Silva Gerald



Hello,


Good hearing from you that you shall be promising us that our house will be well taken care of,and I appreciate your expression. So,i want you to stick to your words. Is that okay with you?And the below is the final question that you must answer to qualify for the rent of my house? The money is not my problem but i want you to take very god care of the house.


SO IF YOU ARE REALLY INTERESTED I WILL WANT YOU TO FILL THE RENT APPLICATIONS FORMS BELOW


Also,Pls let me get this answer.


1) Your Full Name .....................................
2) Your Full Address .........................................
3)Phone & Mobile Numbers ..........................................
4) Citizen or Country ? ..........................................
5) How old are you ? ............................................
6) Are you married ? ...........................................
7) Sex ? ........................................
8) How many people will be living in the apartment? .........................................
9) Do you have a pet ? .........................................
10) Do you have a car ? ........................................
11) What is your Occupation ? ........................................
12) Short or Long Term Lease ? .........................................
13) When do you intend moving in : Date ? ........................................
14) When do you intend to moving out : Date ? .....................................
15) Deposit : One or Two month Deposit are required .........................................
16) Occupant Picture .......................................
17) Reference Details ........................................
18) Passport or Driver's Lience Identity?..........................................


Looking forward to hear from you with all this details so that I can have it in my file in case of issuing the receipt for you and contacting you. Await your urgent reply so that we can discuss on how to get the house document and the key to you,please we are giving you all this base on trust and again i will want you to stick to your words,you know that,we have not seen yet and only putting everything into Gods hand,so please do not let us down in this our property and God bless you more as you do this..


Here is my direct Telephone Number i will answer your call anytime: {C}+2347027355861


I Await for your response.

Thanks & God Bless,
Rev. Da Silva







Good day,

Thanks for the email. I Rev. Da Silva landlord of the house and also it is situated at (Sea Point, 502 hove mansions, london road Atlantic Seaboard).This house is in a great location. I am asking for R2500 per month including the utilities like Hydro, Air Conditioning , Utilities included , Dishwasher , Fridge Stove, Assigned Secured parking , microwave , Washer , Dryer , DSTV , Internet connectivity , Storage locker,security etc.I want you to know that it was due to my transfer that makes me and my wife leave the house and also want to give it out for rent and looking for a responsible person that can take a very good care of it as we are not after the money for the rent but want it to be clean all the time and the possible tenant will see the house as his or her own.

We left South Africa 2 weeks ago and we are currently in West Africa for our Job here as a Missionary. Before we left, we look for a reputable agent that will take a very good care of the house while we were away but could not found any so we left with the house keys and document when leaving. If you will be the right tenant to our house, I will like you to know that I am going to send you the Key and the house documents to you if you are fully interested so that you can have access to view the inside of the apartment.

So I will be online throughout to get back to you as soon as you are able to get back to me.I am looking forward to hear from you ASAP if you are really interested in renting the house so that I can forward you the house rent application to fill so that we can discuss on how you will be getting the the keys and house documents which will be sent to you via courier service.
I will want you to tell me little about the experience you have in taking care of house an moreso are you ready to rent it now or when? I am willing to rent it out for a short or long period depending on what terms you want.You can go and confirm the house address if you wish...

Here is my direct Telephone Number i will answer your call anytime: {C}+2347027355861

I Await for your response.

Thanks & God Bless,
Rev. Da Silva






This new scam has now been brought to my attention, please see details below and beware:

Subject: Re: Reply to your "2br - stunning 2bedroom for rent in Cape Town" Ad on Gumtree


My name is Robert Loest own the 2 bedroom and 2 Bath home and also want you to know that it was due to my transfer that makes me and my wife and Son to leave the house and also want to give it out for rent and looking for a responsible person that can take very good care of it as we are not after the money for the rent but want it to be clean at the time and the person that will rent it to take it as if it were its own. So for now, We are here in West African, our new house and put all my worries off concerning the maintenance of the apartment for, since i am not residing there for now.I left behind some Facilities and electronics which include the rent, and a DVD player, air conditioning, alarm system. The kitchen is fully equipped with all necessary cooking utensils, refrigerator-freezer, four-hob and oven, microwave,dishwasher and washing machine, My Computer Connected with Internet Access and a good parking space. Also the keys to the House are right here with me, and the lease document. Which i can send to you after all necessary agreement has be accepted. Also i will like you to know that the rent charges is not really the issue ,but your absolute maintenance of my apartment is most important thing so will want you to get back to me with the Application form below.


RENT APPLICATION FORM

1)Your Full Name
2)Your Full Address & Phone Number
3)How old are you?
4)Are you married?
5)How many people will be living in the house?
6)Do you have a pet?
7)Do you have a car?
8)Occupation?
9)When do you want to move in
10)How long do you want to stay in my apartment
11)Pictures of all the Occupant that will stay in my apartment
12}two month rent is needed to move in
13] Reference


HERE IS THE APARTMENT ADDRESS:- 502 Hove Mansions London Road, Sea Point Cape Town



One Mr Jone Dallas called me about the apartment,I told him that I can't give him the apartment because he loves smoking,drinking and don't want him to get drunk and damaged my property one day so If you are still interested, No extra fees.I will like you to give me a call on this effect to know how serious you are.below is my phone number +2348026274445 I personally will actually come visiting you sometimes during the year as my new tenant. but i will not sleep in the apartment with you for your privacy. Looking forward to hear from you with all this details so that i can have it in my file in case of issuing the receipt for you and contacting you. Await your urgent reply so that we can discuss on how to get the document and the keys of the house to you.

Thanks.
by Dotti Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:11 am
Thank you for coming along and posting, Brett.

While these scams sometimes use fictitious addresses, often scammers simply copy information from real properties, and pretend to be the owners (sometimes even using the owner's name). The real owners of these properties are not involved with the scams in any way.

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