Au Pair Scam - Mrs. Elizabeth M. Schneider

she send me also her picture and his child

heya...im just posting for clearing a few things...im a scambaiter my self and iv'e been baiting mostly au-pair and employment scams.i've also been an au-pair for a year in germany (malenanny ) and i know few things about it. here are two facts about sallary and the working visa thingies if you are an eu-citizen:


1)sallary most definetly is not more than 200-500euros/pounds a month meaning like 50-120euros/pounds a week.
2) if you are an eu-citizen you dont need a working permanent in a country that's a part of the eu (not even in the uk). and even in other countries au-pairing is not concidered to be "real work" its just more like being there,learning the language and assiting the family.

Hi Dragonsoul

Thank you for the explanation.

As to the average pay for an au pair you are completely right but we tend to steer away from stating those figures to avoid a scammer finding them and using them as a guide in their scams.

I will discuss this in PM with some of the other mods and we may edit your post accordingly

okey sorry for posting that info...ive seen a few other posts here aswell that state the real sallary of an au-pair...i get your point what you mean by editing my post but that is one of the most obvious signs that its a scam...allmost like the +44 70 number in uk employment scams...this is just my opinion...trying to help people you know ?
and ofcourse the family never asks you to pay anything via moneygram or western union.

Dragon

No need to be sorry Dragon

Your advice is spot on and it is something we do want victims to be aware of but we did discuss this once before and at the time agreed not to go into too much detail about the pay rates.

It is no problem that you have posted, we will rediscuss and see if we come to the same conclusion

Hi, I have received emails off a potential scammer for au pair work
his 2nd email is:
Hello Dear,
Thank you very much for the mail i was very excited to hear from you,i hope the salary is ok for you and the pocket fees is for you and my son so that he does not lack anything while you are taking care of him...and also i have been in contact with the Embassy regarding the processing of your traveling documents and they told me that you will need to forward this information:
Full Name:
Address:
Tell:
Passport:
And also a fee of 1500 Pounds for the processing and delivery of your Visa so let me know what you have in mind ok.and hope you do not mind starting the processing now so by july you just move over.

He offered to pay $4500 a month and $850 a week- this seems to be a lot of money.
Is this a scam?

I'm at work so I don't have time for a detailed response, but I can tell you this is 100% scam.

Welcome to scamwarners.com Tatty32

As Dottie hurriedly mentioned - it is a scam.

I have seen those very same words a thousand times before.

You say that this the the second mail from the scammer. He is enticing you with a very attractive wage but then mentions the fact that you have to pay for a visa upfront.

This is where the scam starts. You will be asked to pay for the visa by Western Union or some other money transfer service, which will be untraceable once it has been collected. (make no mistake - you will never get to see the visa or your money again).

If you are taken in by the scam and send money for a visa I can assure you that the scammer will soon be back onto you telling you that there is a complication, and find some sort of excuse for you to send more money.

Please post the entire e-mail, including the scammers e-mail address, so that other potential victims may find it if they are searching for the details.

Well done to you for taking the time to research the job offer.

The first email was:

Subject : NANNY NEEDED
Message : Dear Au Pair/Nanny, I am Mike 34 yrs of age and i am an Accountant here in the USA as i traveled here becos of my work and I don't usually stay home unless during weekends. My contact address is 23 K Street, NW Washington, DC 20006, USA,and i will really need your assistance in my Home here in USA,i will like you to take care of my 3 yr old son Philip. I will love you to do this for me as i do not have much time for my Son and got no body to take care of him . Your duties will be taking the kid to school and bringing him back home, play with him, go to museums, playground, watching movies, prepare/serving his snacks and foods. You will have your Private Room which will have Bathroom, Toilet, Television, Air-Conditional. You will have access to the Internet and a Telephone at home to get in touch with your friends and loved ones. You will be having Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays as your off days, so to enable you have enough time for yourself. As for your salary, I will be paying you $4500 every 4 weeks and a pocket fee of $850 weekly which I suppose should be Okay by you and i will like you to get back to me with some pic of you. We will be expecting to receive an email from you. Mike Family Cares

The email address was: [email protected]
He has "offered" to pay some of the visa money but I know its just a scam.

Quotes added - Michelle

Thank you for adding the first e-mail.

This will alert anyone searching for the scammers e-mail address.

Ouch. This script looks like it was written by a 13 year old scammer.

taking the kid to school

"the kid" has a name, and a real parent who is concerned enough about his child to hire an au pair would use it and not refer to him as "the kid."
And he is supposed to be 3... this kid must be really advanced to be in school already, as real school doesn't start until children are around 5.

It also contains just about every English mistake African writers make. He counts on the fact that the people receiving this email are not American, and English is a 2nd language to many of them.

I too recieved an email from [email protected], it read:

Subject : i want you as my aupair
Message : Dear Aupair, Am Dr Mike Caprio,40 old from United Kingdom.I work in Queen Elizabeth Hospital in United Kingdom and I don't usually stay home unless during weekends. My contact address is 75 Bannockburn road, London, SE18 1ER,United Kingdom.I will like you to know that I have just two kids which names are Sarah and Philip. there ages are 5 and 7 old.I want an Aupair for them because they are the only one left at home since their mother died 3 months ago through car accident. Your duties will be taking the kids to school and bringing them back home, play with them, go to museums, playground, watching movies, prepare/serving their snacks and foods. You will have your Private Room which will have Bathroom, Toilet, Television, Air-Conditional. You will have access to the Internet and a Telephone at home to get in touch with your friends and loved ones. You will be having Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays as your off days, so to enable you have enough time for yourself. As for your salary, I will be paying you 1,500 Pounds every 4 weeks and a pocket fee of 400 Pounds weekly which I suppose should be Okay by you.Please do contact me through our family email address([email protected]) I hope to read from you soon. Thanks Dr Mike Caprio & Family

Interesting... Glad I looked into it.

Quotes added for clarity- Michelle

I have a new email and want to know if thats a scam too.

Hello Au Pair/Nanny,


I hope my mail meets you in good state of health. I am Brett Palmer, 43 years of age from United States. I am a Consultant Contractor and I reside at #203 Bedford St. New York City, N.Y. 10014, USA. As part of the information you may require, I have a 4 years old wonderful and interesting to be with twins namely Audrey and Trey. Due to the nature of my work and the unexpected transfer of my wife to Portugal, I hardly have time for my lovely Kids which prompted an idea of seeking an Au Pair/Nanny. After scrolling through your profile on http://www.findaupair.com, I considers you worthy of the job vacancy in my home as a substitute for my departed wife.


Your duties includes taking the kids to school/bringing them back home, play with them, go to Museums, Playground, Cinema Hall, prepare/fix their meals and snacks. You will have your Private Room which consist of Air-Conditional, Television, 12 hours Internet Access and a Telephone to keep you in touch with your friends, families and maybe relatives as often as you may desire, a Bathroom and Toilet. You will have Saturdays and Sundays as your off days, so to enable you have enough time for yourself otherwise, you will be paid for extra services. As for your salary, I will be willing to pay you 2,000 Dollars for every 4 weeks and a pocket fee of 500 Dollars weekly which I suppose should be enough for your primary needs. Regards my family pictures, I will send some upon request.


With all due respect, I will be hoping to hear from you as soon as possible if interested at the said position. Bye for now and may the gentle breeze of all moment blow cool memory into your brain, Amen!


Warmest regards,
Brett Palmer & Family.
Email: [email protected]
Phone Number: +1 315 238 5008

Quotes added - Michelle

Unfortunately, in the first 3 lines it is already clear it is a scam. It was definitely written by an African, not an American.

A quick google of one of the unique lines showed that some or all of this letter was also posted as an ad in Craigslist. That ad has already been removed for TOS violations (someone already reported it to Craigslist as a scam). If this was a legitimate job offer and he wanted you, why would he be posting ads on Craigslist?

Also note this ad I just found on a Pakistan job site:

Are you seeking or offering? : I am offering
Address : # 43 Streatfeild Avenue, London, E6 2JZ
City : streatfield
Salary : 2400 pounds per month

I hope my mail meets you in good state of health... I am George Sipmson, 40 years of age from United Kingdom. I am a Consultant Contractor and I reside at # 43 Streatfeild Avenue, London, E6 2JZ , U.K. As part of the information you may require, I have a 2 years old wonderful and interesting son and a niece. Due to the nature of my work and the unexpected transfer of my wife to Portugal, I hardly have time for my lovely Kids which prompted an idea of seeking a babysitter/Nanny.
With all due respect, I will be hoping to hear from you as soon as possible if interested at the said position. Bye for now and may the gentle breeze of all moment blow cool memory into your brain, Amen! my email is [via Contact Form Below]

Oh my goodness! This is yet a second scam e-mail which I have got during my search for au pair family. And I started at the beginning of January..This makes me frightened. Luckily I made some research of the names, phone numbers and adresses of the e-mail, that saved me last time also when it was really close that I would have sent the money for them. I know that that was really naive to even believe that there could be families who would pay that kind of salaries and so on...But they sent really many pictures and their mails were so kind..This is horrible! I don't know whether I can trust in any family anymore..

The first scam:

> Hello
> My name is Roland Frantz, I'm 35 years old, I have dual citzenship,
> Austrian by birth and British by naturalization. I have been living
> and working in the United Kingdom for over a decade now. I'm married
> to a British woman, Erika, she is 32 and we are both happily married
> with 2 daughters, Josephine, 4years old and Linda 2years old. We speak
> basically english among ourselves. I'm privately employed as
> Networking and Security computer analyst. My wife is an insurance
> executive here in London but she has stopped working at the moment.
> She was diagnosed with Thyroid cancer sometime in November and she has
> been on prescription medication since then. However, her health
> situation is deteriorating due to this illness and she has been
> advised by her personal doctor to go for intensive medical treatment
> for this thyroid cancer. In a week or two, she will be leaving for
> Germany where she will be receiving intensive medical care for at
> least 3 months so that she can at least return to her normal health
> status. A friend of the family who felt concerned and has already
> found a reliable aupair/nanny on the aupair website gave us your
> contact details. In the meantime, we need an energetic,responsible,
> warm and caring au pair/nanny to help take care of our two daughters.
> We need help in the morning to get them off to
> pre-school/kindergarden. Then help again from afternoon until bedtime.
> You will need to do their laundry and clean their rooms. Some ironing
> of clothing required as well. You DO NOT have to do any house cleaning
> (aside from kids rooms) as we have a part time housekeeper. You have
> your own private apartment within the house.. No cooking required,
> only making snacks and drinks for the kids. You will have two days off
> a week, Saturdays and Sundays and your working hours is 30-35 hours
> per week. Your monthly salary is 2000 pounds while your weekly stipend
> is 250 pounds. The weekly schedule has fixed hours: Monday, Tuesday
> and Wednesday 7.00 am till 10.00 a.m. and from 4.30pm till 7.00pm.
> There will be some flexible hours as well on Friday afternoon and some
> evenings. We can work out the flexible schedule together, depending on
> the needs of the family and the preferences of the au pair or nanny.
> In between those hours you are free to attend whatever courses you may
> wish to. We ask to be helpful when it comes to do some laundry,
> running groceries and preparing the meals. There will be fixed tasks
> as cleaning up after diner and ironing children's clothes. We are a
> friendly, happy group and would love to welcome you to our home. We
> are looking forward to welcoming you in London and get to know you as
> a member of the family! We will help you find a hobby or other ways to
> get to know other people so you will be able to have a good time here.
> There are a lot of aupairs/nannies in the neighbourhood. If you are
> capable of this position, do not hesitate to send us an email with
> your previous experience and we will be happy to find out if you are
> suitable for our family.
> Kind regards,
>
> Home address
> 147 Gloucester Road,
> South Kensington
> London,
> SW7 4TH.
> United Kingdom
> +44 703 189 3746

And the second scam:

Hello Au Pair/Nanny,


I hope my mail meets you in good state of health. I am Brett Palmer, 43 years of age from United States. I am a Consultant Contractor and I reside at #203 Bedford St. New York City, N.Y. 10014, USA. As part of the information you may require, I have a 4 years old wonderful and interesting to be with twins namely Audrey and Trey. Due to the nature of my work and the unexpected transfer of my wife to Portugal, I hardly have time for my lovely Kids which prompted an idea of seeking an Au Pair/Nanny. After scrolling through your profile on http://www.findaupair.com, I considers you worthy of the job vacancy in my home as a substitute for my departed wife.


Your duties includes taking the kids to school/bringing them back home, play with them, go to Museums, Playground, Cinema Hall, prepare/fix their meals and snacks. You will have your Private Room which consist of Air-Conditional, Television, 12 hours Internet Access and a Telephone to keep you in touch with your friends, families and maybe relatives as often as you may desire, a Bathroom and Toilet. You will have Saturdays and Sundays as your off days, so to enable you have enough time for yourself otherwise, you will be paid for extra services. As for your salary, I will be willing to pay you 2,000 Dollars for every 4 weeks and a pocket fee of 500 Dollars weekly which I suppose should be enough for your primary needs. Regards my family pictures, I will send some upon request.


With all due respect, I will be hoping to hear from you as soon as possible if interested at the said position. Bye for now and may the gentle breeze of all moment blow cool memory into your brain, Amen!


Warmest regards,
Brett Palmer & Family.
Email: [email protected]
Phone Number: +1 315 238 5008

This is just so outrageous! Should I stop the whole au pair family -search? Since the only result of is seem to be the scams...By the way, this website is great!! Thank you so much for the administrators! You have saved so many poor, naive people like me. Thank you! And please tell me some attributes of genuine au pair families.

Quotes added for clarity - Michelle