Two au pair e-mails

I received two au pair e-mails which I don't trust:

HelloWe are using this opportunity to reach out to you in request for yournanny/au pair services.We consist of a family of four, father, motherand two wonderful girls. Let me formally introduce my family toyou.I'm the father of the house and I am Roland Frants by name, I'm 35years old, I have dual citzenship, Austrian by birth and British bynaturalization. I have been living and working in the United Kingdomfor over a decade now. I'm married to a British woman, Erika, she is32 and we are both happily married with 2 daughters, Josephine, 4yearsold and Linda 2years old. We speak basically english among ourselves.I'm privately employed as Networking and Security computer analyst. Mywife is an insurance executive here in London but she has stoppedworking at the moment. She was diagnosed with Thyroid cancer sometimein November and she has been on prescription medication since then.However, her health situation is deteriorating due to this illness andshe has been advised by her personal doctor to go for intensivemedical treatment for this thyroid cancer. In a week or two, she willbe leaving for Germany where she will be receiving intensive medicalcare for at least 3 months so that she can at least return to hernormal health status. A friend of the family who felt concerned andhas already found a reliable aupair/nanny on the aupair website gaveus your contact details. In the meantime, we need anenergetic,responsible, warm and caring au pair/nanny to help takecare of our two daughters. We need help in the morning to get them offto pre-school/kindergarden. Then help again from afternoon untilbedtime. You will need to do their laundry and clean their rooms. Someironing of clothing required as well. You DO NOT have to do any housecleaning (aside from kids rooms) as we have a part time housekeeper. You have your own private apartment within the house. No cookingrequired, only making snacks and drinks for the kids. You will havetwo days off a week, Saturdays and Sundays and your working hours is30-35 hours per week. Your monthly salary is 2000 pounds while yourweekly stipend is 250 pounds. The weekly schedule has fixed hours:Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday 7.00 am till 10.00 a.m. and from 4.30pmtill 7.00pm. There will be some flexible hours as well on Fridayafternoon and some evenings. We can work out the flexible scheduletogether, depending on the needs of the family and the preferences ofthe au pair or nanny. In between those hours you are free to attendwhatever courses you may wish to. We ask to be helpful when it comes to do some laundry, runninggroceries and preparing the meals. There will be fixed tasks ascleaning up after diner and ironing children's clothes. We are afriendly, happy group and would love to welcome you to our home. Weare looking forward to welcoming you in London and get to know you asa member of the family! We will help you find a hobby or other ways toget to know other people so you will be able to have a good time here.There are a lot of aupairs/nannies in the neighbourhood. If you areinterested of this position, do not hesitate to send us an email withyour previous experience and we will be happy to find out if you aresuitable for our family.

Kind regards, Contact Address137 Gloucester Road,South KensingtonLondon,SW7 4TH.United Kingdom+44 703 189 3746

(This one had pictures included)

Second one:

Dear Au pair,

We are looking for an international aupair to provide loving care for
our children. We live in a Essex,London, and we have an incredible
culture that we would love to share with you! We are looking for
someone whom we can spoil and in return, all you have to do is love
our babies as if they were your own. There are 3 Language Schools in
our area, for the Aupair who may be interested in taking courses. I
would be willing to provide assistance with tuition, as well.will pay 3000GBP.
and you will be also entitled to health insurance

Aupair Accommodation

Our Aupair would have her own living area and her own bedroom and
attached bathroom.

Job Description

A typical weekday would involve helping me to get my child ready
each morning and take her to preschool by 8 a.m. She would then need
to pick her up around noon and return home for lunch and nap time.
The majority of the enrichment time I would expect from the Aupair
would occur in the afternoon after the child wake from naps. I
usually return home by 5 p.m. Weekends are off duty.

Send us an e mail with Introduction about yourself and a picture.
We hope to hear from you.

Carl George & family
3 Clover Road Borough
Green Sevenoaks
Kent TN15 8ER
London, UK
+447024034745

Quotes added for clarity - Michelle

Welcome to Scamwarners Vierl.

You are correct not to trust these mails - they are both from scammers.

They are both using Telephone codes +4470 - a UK redirect service to any cellphone worldwide and favoured by scammers.

Please do not reply and ignore these mails.

Also could you please post the mail addresses used by these scammers. It will alert and save others from being scammed.

If you have any questions or concerns please post - a support team member will be glad to help you.

Thank you so much for your reply. The e-mail addresses:

[email protected]

[email protected]

Thyroid cancer sounded familiar, and when I searched the site, I found two more reported aupair scams with identical wording.
No surprise there, as scammers often use scripts.

Thank You Veirl for posting this further information.

It will alert and save others from being scammed. Well Done

This Scamwarners au-pair guide here may help you spot scammers;

http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=3019

If you have any questions or concerns in the future - please post.

Rather mangled address too.

3 Clover Road Borough
Green Sevenoaks
Kent TN15 8ER
London, UK

I'm not sure if Clover Road is real, but it would be
3 Clover Road
Borough Green
Sevenoaks
Kent TN15 8ER
Without "London" of course.

I've received the second email after being contacted through another site aupair.com on which I am registered.
the address used is: [email protected]

I felt weird they were asking me my resume and my introduction though I had send it in my previous mail so I checked the address on google map, found nothing and then found this topic. So thank you for posted this.

Hi Clementine,

Welcome to Scamwarners.

I am glad that you realised something was wrong and did some investigation, well done

If you have any questions, please dont hesitate to ask.

You may also find the information here useful in helping you to recognise other au pair scams viewtopic.php?f=34&t=3019

Hey guys. Could u pls give me the e-mail address of this mail or how can I find this profile? Anyway I need to get mail of them.
I've got the same e-mail just with another name, unfortunately I've found this forum too late. I've alresdy sent them too much. CAn you help me with that?

Dear Au pair,

We are looking for an international aupair to provide loving care for
our children. We live in a Essex,London, and we have an incredible
culture that we would love to share with you! We are looking for
someone whom we can spoil and in return, all you have to do is love
our babies as if they were your own. There are 3 Language Schools in
our area, for the Aupair who may be interested in taking courses. I
would be willing to provide assistance with tuition, as well.will pay 3000GBP.
and you will be also entitled to health insurance

Aupair Accommodation

Our Aupair would have her own living area and her own bedroom and
attached bathroom.

Job Description

A typical weekday would involve helping me to get my child ready
each morning and take her to preschool by 8 a.m. She would then need
to pick her up around noon and return home for lunch and nap time.
The majority of the enrichment time I would expect from the Aupair
would occur in the afternoon after the child wake from naps. I
usually return home by 5 p.m. Weekends are off duty.

Send us an e mail with Introduction about yourself and a picture.
We hope to hear from you.

Carl George & family
3 Clover Road Borough
Green Sevenoaks
Kent TN15 8ER
London, UK
+447024034745

Unfortunately, if your money has been picked up, it is gone. It is in the hands of the scammers at this point in time, and none of the names or addresses you have been given are actually connected to them. If it has not been picked up then you need to immediately go to WU to stop the transfer. If you are contacted by someone who says they can get your money back, it is actually going to be another scam, designed to get even more money from you. With the full headers, we can probably tell you what country your scammer is in, but it will not help you to get your money back.

That 4470 number is a redirect number--it is a premium number that is forwarded to phones all over the world. The scammer has given you that number so that you will think he is actually in UK, when in reality he is in Africa (or he may be an African in Malaysia on a student visa.)

Could you please post all emails you received from this scammer, and any fake travel agencies, etc. related to this scam?

Unfortunately, if you are independently seeking a position as an au pair, you can expect 5-10 scams (or more) for every real email you receive.

To avoid being scammed in the future, you will need to look for subtle inconsistencies and red flags, such as poor English from someone who is supposed to be from US or UK or repeated questions the scammer should already know the answer to. If English isn't your first language, it is harder to spot the mistakes in the email you posted that are consistent with an African, so you should look for other signs, and you can always come here and ask for help if you are unsure. As I said above, you can safely assume anything with a 44-70 number is a scam.

As an example of inconsistencies--this author doesn't seem to know how many children he/she has. In the beginning he talks about his "babies" meaning more than one, but later in the email there is clearly only one child. Also, he says he is in Essex but the address says Kent. I'm not from UK, but I'm pretty sure those are 2 different locations.

Dotti is correct - Essex & Kent are 2 different Counties. Also, Essex is NOT in London!!

Edit: typos

In my letter from the very beginning we were talking about one child who's name is Ann.
He told me to write his lawer for the instructions. That one is definitely from UK, as I checked him ip address, ip address of employer is USA unknown. He had sent me his ID of the company where he workes, not sure that it's real.

For me is interesting that fact that I had to make 5 deposits and 2 of them were send on my name, as I was told they had to be transfer on my bank account. I guess, anyway, I can go to my bank and to write ?omplaints , if it's a scam so how could they give that money somebody else, as I still in my country and I couldn't withdraw my money. Hope in this way to get back some money.

I wanted to know the other e-mail address of this scammer and talked to him from my another address, so he couln't know that is me.

By the way, he called me a lot of times, his language wasn't pure and his mails are very good.
I will post them later.

I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean about other email address, but I suspect it will become more clear from the correspondence itself. If you sent money by bank transfer, you should definitely report it to your bank, though that does not mean you will get your money back.

Please do post the correspondence as well as the ID (which undoubtedly is fake or stolen). While it is possible your scammer has an accomplice in UK, it is also very possible that the "lawyer" is using a proxy which will make him look like he is in UK when he is not.

Just make sure you remove your own personal information (email, full name) from the emails you post.

hi) guys ) I also have some doubts about this e-mails [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
[email protected]. I want to find a host family and i have registreted in different sites. Families write to me but i must be sure that they are not scammers. I ask you for help.

one more mail :[email protected] Is it real?