JB Electronics

Good job gathering all that info, Mac. Hopefully having it posted leads more people to this thread.

Thanks Jim,

A little more squeezed out of this lemon too...

Here is Raj quoting the company names he uses on the internet, beware all of these from India.

We are operating in the name of JB Electronics, JB Technology, Bright
Wonders, JB Steels and Bharathi Fabrics, dealing in different and wide
range of products.

Yes, now he sent me email.

The distributor has informed me that he will be contacting you
directly through email and provide you the tracking no.
His name is Mr.John from UK.

Please let me have feedback, once they contact you .

As I said earlier, all the apple products comes with Apple
International Warranty.

Regards
Raj

He sent me this 8 days after I paid him!!

It is extremely likely that this distributor will introduce a fee of some sort. Customs, extra tax, or whatever reason the scammer wants to make up. Please note that the distributor is very likely the same person you've been talking to from a different email address.

"Mr. John" is pretty typical of African scammers that don't understand western names. You'll probably see 2 first names from him (i.e. Mr. John David or Mr. Mark John).

I'll reiterate here - PLEASE don't pay whatever fee he tells you about. The products aren't and never were real and the money is going right into his pocket! Weren't you going to try canceling your order?

Even I was unaware of the massive number of fake and scam websites on the web. It would be impossible to keep track of them all, and that's just the ones selling electronic goods. i've been researching ones from India offering FOREX services and ones directed at the UK offering payday loans and the number of sites is incredible, and they're invariably scams.

Unless you know the company and can be sure that the site is theirs then it's not worth the risk. If a site posing as a major retailer can't accept a card payment then there's something wrong, but equally it would be risky to hand over card details to a company you know nothing about. I'm not saying there aren't honest traders out there, it's just that they can't offer as good a deal as a scammer and they're hard to find in among all the scams.

He sent me an email

Further to my earlier mail, there is no need to claim from Alertpay,
as I will also lose money that I have paid to the distributor.

Please confirm the receipt of yesterdays part payment done to you , I
will arrange for the balance amount .

Raj

He also sent me refund of $214 to my Alertpay account, because he can only send me one phones. Also his distributor replied to me also, but still NO TRACKING NUMBER!!! HAS BEEN OVER 12 DAYS!!!

xtremetech, you still haven't answered the question i posed on page one, so I'll repeat in case you missed it.

You have mentioned a Hindi certificate/license for this (obviously fraudulent) trader. What is the license for exactly?

I have a question. Since I have a business and I send someone 100 phones, and they send me $30,000 to my bank account via T/T. WIll the Bank or IRS get suspicous and try chasing me down, or is it safe? Also what is the best way to recieve large payments that are over $10,000?

Third time:- Please answer my question.

Now, now. No need to be harsh here. We're a friendly bunch

@xt: We only deal with scams here, so your business question is somewhat off topic. I am fairly sure that transactions over a certain amount will raise red flags somewhere, but above that you're looking in the wrong place for business advice.

In a previous post you mentioned the scammer giving you a $214 refund. Do you physically HAVE this money, or do you just have an email saying as much?

As we've said several times before, a tracking number will not be coming, because the phones you have ordered do not exist unfortunately. I would continue to advise you to cease all contact with this scammer, as it will only lead to losing more and more money.

The certificate was for a legitimate business. A tax officer went and checked the shop and put a stamp saying it's legitimate. Also I have the money physically.

Again, I'm not trying to argue here, but please know that certificates (especially over the internet) can easily be faked by somebody with decent photoshop skills (a good commodity among scammers).

If this business has a physical shop as you say, then why aren't you buying the items there instead of through email? I only ask because everything you've said up to this point makes the person you're emailing sound exactly like a fake electronics scammer.