e bay seller using Neale as surname

Hi

I have noticed quite a few people getting caught out by a person/persons using the surname Neale.
I too answered an ad that seemed too good to be true and after responding via e mail the item which was a caravan was promptly removed, and all further contact was made using private e mail address.
Then the scam started to unfold, I.E I am using eBay protection plan, I work away from home, I will get the item delivered and I don't get paid until you receive goods Blah blah blah. Being quite savvy I let it pan out as to obtain as much info on this person as poss so as to report them to the bank and to e bay.
I feel greatly for the people getting caught out by this scam and I would suggest that it is organised crime more than just one person, as it would require quite a few people involved to open the bank accounts and such like. From what I can see on here thousands of pounds have been taken from people and that's just the tip of the ice berg, most people would be too embarrassed and angry to take it any further.
So just remember when things seem too good to be true such as a half price caravan they usually are, keep the little bargain demon locked away and bring him out at the car boot sale instead. Its much safer that way !
Mark.
Here is copy of fake e bay invoice sent to me

eBay sent this message to Mark
Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay.

Your invoice for eBay purchases - Eriba Triton 420GT Caravan with awning - 2005

Invoice for VPP Transaction Case ID #12CLS2MW5 between Albert Neale, as the Seller and Mark , as the Buyer. Please follow our instructions to complete the transaction safely.


Seller:

Name: Albert Neale
Address: 76B Strathern Road
Dundee, Angus
DD5 1PH
Scotland



Buyer:

Name: Mark




Transaction Details:

Case ID: #12CLS2MW5
Date: 10.03.2011
Status: Payment Pending

Item titled: Eriba Triton 420GT Caravan with awning - 2005

Price £4,500.00

Quantity Sold: 1
Insurance: YES
Delivery: Delivery details will be provided by seller after payment.

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Shipping to*: Mark



*Please check the details for an accurate delivery in order to avoid delays.


Payment must be submitted via Bank Transfer to the eBay Financing Center Agent Bank account in charge of this transaction. The payment will be secured until the Buyer receives, inspects and accepts the vehicle. Or, if it will be the case a full refund is given to the Buyer.

eBay Financing Center Agent*:

Beneficiary: C. Barbalata
Bank Name: Barclays
Account no: 93633438
Sort Code: 20-91-79
City: London

Country:
United Kingdom

*The Bank Wire transfer will be sent using this name and address.

Payment:

Invoice #12CLS2MW5

Subtotal: £4,500.00

Shipping(Free): £0.00

Deposit: £0.00

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Total: £4,500.00


How to make the payment

Send the payment using eBay Financing Center Agent's bank account (found below) as payment details.
E-mail us*

the following payment information:
- Case ID or Invoice #
- Copy of the bank receipt
Fax* the Bank transfer payment receipt to eBay Financing Center Department at:

+44 (0)207 504 8111
*We strongly recommend that you confirm the payment by both e-mail and fax.



Important Notice

For security reasons please DO NOT release the payment details to the Seller or any other unauthorized person.



All the transaction, payment and personal information is considered confidential and will not be released under any circumstances.
Vehicle Purchase Protection program security measures are constantly reviewed and modified given evolving circumstances globally.
Our main and constant priority is the safety of our customers.



Bank Wire transfers can be submitted with the help of your banking institution. To send a wire transfer, you need to have the following information:

- Beneficiary (person to whom the wire is being sent)
- The receiving bank's Sort Code and name of the bank
- Account number of beneficiary
- Location of the receiving bank.


When payment is received, it will be verified and secured into a non-interest bearing trust account. Payment verification process usually takes less than 24 hours. After payment is secured, the Seller is authorized to deliver the vehicle.The Seller has 3 business days to send the Buyer and eBay Motors Customer Support the tracking number of the shipment. If no tracking number is provided, a full refund is immediately sent to the Buyer.
The Buyer receives the vehicle and has 5 business days to inspect it. If it is complete and as described, the Buyer should accept the vehicle. If he refuses the vehicle, the Buyer must ship the vehicle back to the Seller within 3 business days.
After the inspection period is over, the Buyer must contact eBay Financing Center Customer Support with the result of the inspection. If the Buyer refuses the vehicle, the refund will be sent to the Buyer after the tracking number for the returned shipment is verified. If the vehicle is accepted, eBay Financing Center Department submits the payment directly to the Seller within 3 business days.


Help

For any questions please E-mail us.


Thank you,
eBay Financing Center Customer Support
Vehicle Purchase Protection Program

Copyright © 2011 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of the eBay User Agreement and Privacy Policy

Have just been done by this one too (£3000) for an eBay advert. The cars seem to re-occur (I recognised it from a previous auction and thought it was a re-list). Anyway, here are the grim details... they're still using the same fax number. Irony is that the seller's address is in Monifieth ("money thief").

Car registration used was 76 HKK , which is distinctive.

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Your invoice for eBay purchases - AUDI A3 SPORT 2.0 TDI AUTO DSG LEATHER BOSE PADDLE SHIFT

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6753/jtmq94.gif Invoice for VPP Transaction Case ID #17EVG3RN5 between Sofia Pallikonda, as the Seller and ********, as the Buyer. Please follow our instructions to complete the transaction safely.


http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/tbx/squares.gif Seller:
Name: Sofia Pallikonda
Address: 19 Grange Road
Dundee, Angus
DD5 4LU
Scotland


http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/tbx/squares.gif Buyer:
Name: *************
Address:

http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/tbx/squares.gif Transaction Details:
http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/pict/160725713711.jpg
Case ID: #17EVG3RN5
Date: 29.01.2012
Status: Payment Pending
Item titled: AUDI A3 SPORT 2.0 TDI AUTO DSG LEATHER BOSE PADDLE SHIFT

Buy It Now Price £3,000.00
Quantity Sold: 1
Insurance: YES
Delivery: Delivery details will be provided by seller after payment.
Shipping to*:

*Please check the details for an accurate delivery in order to avoid delays.
Payment must be submitted via Bank Transfer to the eBay Financing Center Agent Bank account in charge of this transaction. The payment will be secured until the Buyer receives, inspects and accepts the vehicle. Or, if it will be the case a full refund is given to the Buyer.
http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/tbx/squares.gif eBay Financing Center Agent*:

Beneficiary: P. Hilban
Bank Name: Barclays
Account no: 53051749
Sort Code: 20-58-51
City: London
Country:
United Kingdom

*The Bank Wire transfer will be sent using this name and address.

http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/tbx/squares.gif Payment:
Invoice #17EVG3RN5

Subtotal: £3,000.00
Shipping(Free): £0.00

Deposit: £0.00
Total: £3,000.00

http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/tbx/squares.gif How to make the payment http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/tbx/squares.gif
http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/asteriskG_10x10.gif Send the payment using eBay Financing Center Agent's bank account (found below) as payment details.
http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/asteriskG_10x10.gif E-mail us*

the following payment information:
- Case ID or Invoice #
- Copy of the bank receipt
http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/asteriskG_10x10.gif Fax* the Bank transfer payment receipt to eBay Financing Center Department at:

+44 (0)207 504 8111
*We strongly recommend that you confirm the payment by both e-mail and fax.

http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/tbx/squares.gif Important Notice http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/tbx/squares.gif
For security reasons please DO NOT release the payment details to the Seller or any other unauthorized person.


http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/tbx/bullet.gif All the transaction, payment and personal information is considered confidential and will not be released under any circumstances.
http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/tbx/bullet.gif Vehicle Purchase Protection program security measures are constantly reviewed and modified given evolving circumstances globally.
http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/tbx/bullet.gif Our main and constant priority is the safety of our customers.
Bank Wire transfers can be submitted with the help of your banking institution. To send a wire transfer, you need to have the following information:

- Beneficiary (person to whom the wire is being sent)
- The receiving bank's Sort Code and name of the bank
- Account number of beneficiary
- Location of the receiving bank.
http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/myebay/bullet.gif
When payment is received, it will be verified and secured into a non-interest bearing trust account. Payment verification process usually takes less than 24 hours. After payment is secured, the Seller is authorized to deliver the vehicle.The Seller has 3 business days to send the Buyer and eBay Motors Customer Support the tracking number of the shipment. If no tracking number is provided, a full refund is immediately sent to the Buyer.
http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/myebay/bullet.gif
The Buyer receives the vehicle and has 5 business days to inspect it. If it is complete and as described, the Buyer should accept the vehicle. If he refuses the vehicle, the Buyer must ship the vehicle back to the Seller within 3 business days.
http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/myebay/bullet.gif
After the inspection period is over, the Buyer must contact eBay Financing Center Customer Support with the result of the inspection. If the Buyer refuses the vehicle, the refund will be sent to the Buyer after the tracking number for the returned shipment is verified. If the vehicle is accepted, eBay Financing Center Department submits the payment directly to the Seller within 3 business days.
http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/tbx/squares.gif Help
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6753/jtmq94.gif
For any questions please E-mail us.
Thank you,
eBay Financing Center Customer Support
Buyer Purchase Protection Program

Copyright © 2011 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of the eBay User Agreement and Privacy Policy

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scammer now using kerr_lamont1

Hello,
We've just been done by the same old Neale. I think the same, but this time he was
John Neale,
19 Grange Road
Dundee, Angus
DD5 4LU
Scotland.

The van we were buying was not such a bargain really, but just what we were looking for.. .

I don't understand how can the buyer protection go wrong so many times though, and why can ebay not take care of that.
Has anyone been to the police about that?

The officer in our little town said that it would be all much easier if the bank account was not in London. Problem with that is that the Metropol;itan Police won't take up a case so small.

I wonder if we ALL go to the police, will the case be big enough for the Metropolitan Police to take it?
I am sure there are more people fooled by the same person. If you know of anyone else, and if you think its worth trying, let me know.

oh, He always uses Barclay's in London. but not the same branch:

Beneficiary: P. Rania
Bank Name: Barclays
Account no: 83933318
Sort Code: 20-44-86
City: London

Natasha

I don't understand how can the buyer protection go wrong so many times though, and why can ebay not take care of that. Has anyone been to the police about that?

eBAY has nothing to do with this. The scammer is simply using their name. All of the correspondence that is supposedly from eBAY was created and sent by the scammers.

ebay is not a bank or an escrow service, and they do not get in the middle of any financial transaction--in fact, they don't receive money at all--paypal does (and paypal does not hold money pending inspection either, nor do they have you send money to anyone else)

-If you receive any email from paypal telling you to send money by bank transfer, wire transfer, or telling you that money is on hold until an item has been inspected, it is FAKE.

-If you receive any email from eBAY for an item that you did not buy or bid on directly through ebay, or any email promising you an inspection period, or any email instructing you to send money by wire transfer, it is FAKE

So wish I knew this website existed a week ago i too have been done by John Neale for £5500 for a car on ebay. I can't quite believe he is getting away with this. I actually have been in touch with the police and they are going to investigate so don't now report your issues because you think they are too small - the more reports the police get on this the more likely they are to investigate. All the accounts he uses seem to be Barclays as is mine so I will be giving the police all the details you guys have put on here in the hope that they can delve into these accounts and get this scumbag. Don't think I have ever felt so angry and helpless in my life. This was a present for my husband who works bloody hard and couldn't be more deserving. If any of you have any more information for me to give the police please let me know.

Hi joey, can you put a bit more detail about the seller's name, address and the transaction details? Police cant do anything about 5500 but if the case gets blown up by everyone done by the man, well, we might not get the money, but at least the b****rd might be caught. I was also told that you can try the household insurance. They will be more influencial on the police.
I dont like the idea of giving up and letting go. was the money just blown away by the wind, I would not be as upset.

Take care and dont blame yourself

The name and address used by the seller will be fake or stolen. Unfortunately, odds are fairly high that the person behind this scam is not in UK, but in Africa or Malaysia. Bank accounts may be owned by an accomplice, but unfortunately, they are equally likely to be owned by other victims, usually of job scams or romance scams. You can see an example of how a job scam is used to gain access to a legitimate bank account here: http://scamwarners.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=30911&start=0 The victim of the job scam will have been given a totally different set of fake information by the scammer.

Often people become frustrated with the local police because they don't feel they are concerned about these crimes or willing to make the effort to investigate. In reality, both the anonymity of these crimes and the international aspects make these crimes difficult (and in some cases virtually impossible) for local authorities, who do not have the resources (or even the authority) to deal with the many aspects that extend beyond their jurisdiction.

With that said, we always encourage reporting of these scams, both to local police and to any agency in your country that specifically addresses these types of fraud. In the US, this would be IC3, and in UK I believe it is actionfraud. If you have insurance that covers losses due to fraud, by all means contact them.

But, we also want victims to understand that the scam is much more complicated than it may look, and chances of the money being recovered are still nearly zero. It is important that people who have lost money to these scams understand this, and not put themselves at risk of further harm by holding on to false hopes of money recovery. It is also important that victims understand that any name and/or address they were given is as likely to belong to another innocent person as it is to a criminal.

That sounds more complicated, but logical.
however I thought that it is a curious coincidence that Barclays in London is always the bank and that the address has something to do with Scotland.
Our local policeman is interested and is trying to collect more data then just our case because the account being in London it is the Metropolitan police that we should try to get interested. We could give up and get on with our lives and try to earn the money back... But then we wont be allowed to complain that the world's gone bad! )

I have also been caught on the same scam just a few weeks ago, I realised within a day of making the payment and therefor played along with the scammers for another 7-10 days, during which time I reported it to the police and Barclays. I have been un-officially informed that the Barclays account would have been frozen instantly and coincidentally received additional emails from the scammers stating that Barclays would not release the funds to them and that was the reason they were not delivering the goods that were paid for ....! After some investigation it seems the only way to recover this money is to serve a court injunction against the Person holding the fraudulent bank account, however to do so you must have their full contact details, Name, Address etc... which if you have been caught on this scam like me will know these details are false.
Barclays can not or will not do anything directly, so actually are the winners in all of this as they have 100's/1000's of bank accounts frozen with significant funds in that can not be released to anyone...How crazy is that.

Hi

I also got caught this time by Sarah Neale from Dundee

Same process as already described by others money to holding account at Barclays in London

Paid for VW T4 at cost of £ 3800 obviously never recieved

any ideas on way forward

Steve

The ebay user name as used by sarah neale was seanwalsh1982 if that helps

Hi, You need to report it to Action Fraud - that's what we did last week. They will give you a crime reference number. The number for them is 0300 123 2040.

ebAY as I've already said are not that interested, as there isn't anything they can do.

We are thinking that maybe if enough of us on here report this problem to Watchdog, we will at least start the ball rolling for these people to get caught?

What do you think?

I am not sure what "Watch Dog" is. I do believe that everything that can be done to expose scammers and their tactics to the public is great.

Please be sure you read Dotti's post here: viewtopic.php?p=93605#p93605

Scammers hide behind anonymous "throw away" email addresses and other people's names and photos. If scammers were easy to catch, there wouldn't be so many of them. Exposure and education is the best prevention toward victims.

Let us know how it works out with the Watch Dog group.

A friend of mine rang me yesterday for advice as he was going to buy a Case CX16b mini excavator and plant trailer for £4000 he had seen on ebay but again the listing was pulled off ebay as soon as he enquired. He was being asked by Sarah Neale [email protected] at the same Dundee address and same story as everyone else.

Thankfully I use ebay a lot and told him I had never heard of the buyer protection story and it sounded suspicious. I did a google search on Sarah Neale etc and found this website thankfully before he paid anything. Unfortunately it does appear many people have paid up before realising it is a scam.

The upsetting thing is that ebay, the police and the banks appear to care little and take no action. Barclays who appear to be the bank of choice are no doubt sitting of frozen funds yet won't return these to the victims. No wonder they can pay big bonuses to the fat cats at the top!

I have listed this info in case it assist anyone else searching to avoid being scammed. There seem to be several threads running on this site related to this very same scam, not all have been done in the name Neale but all work the same and are obviously being done by the same people.

I posted this reply above to another thread about the same scam on this site.

I then remembered emailing about a VW Caravelle advertised on ebay at a bargain price etc over 2 years ago. I remember there was a mobile number listed but it did not work (I thought the seller may have typed it incorrectly at the time) so the only means of contact was by email. I received a reply which sounds similar to others i have read on here that the seller had moved from the UK to Spain and taken the vehicle there but they were willing to return the vehicle after payment etc etc. I realised it was a scam and did not pursue and reported it to ebay. I am sure this scam must be still being run by the same people and still raking in money more than 2 years later (maybe many more years than that), surely this warrants better action by the Police and banks?

Welcome to ScamWarners PW64. Scammers are a problem on every kind of site on the internet, especially sites which have to do with selling.

I don't agree with your assessment of the bank you named. Many, many banks have been used by scammers to try to legitimize their activities. Early on, scammers used obscure bank names to pass off their scam. Now they seem to use known banks that people tend to trust.

Most often the money is passed through a money transfer service like Western Union or MoneyGram, because to use a bank some very specific and traceable information must be provided to the bank, wither it is a large bank, or a small bank.

Banks do not get to hold on to money willy nilly. They have to account for the funds in their control. Scammers typically get unwitting victims to open an account and pass money through that account. The victim is usually innocent as is the bank. They are just vehicles used by the scammer.

I know that banks would love to rid the world of scammers and frequently post information warning of scams and processing money for people you don't know, or sending money to people you don't know.

I hope you will join us in exposing scammers by posting up their scripts and the email addresses they are using.