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by stevil18 Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:12 am
Recently, I decided to order a small item from this company worth 200$. The name of the company is:

Dongguan Linbiao Anti-Fake Technology
http://hologram.en.alibaba.com/

I am paying them through escrow.com
Please share your experience using escrow with alibaba.com companies.

Thank you
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by Inspector Gadget Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:55 am
I didn't see any red flags when looking into this company, it is a worry, however, that they don't have their own web site, but appear on a number of trade web sites.
It is entirely possible that they do have a web site, but it's in Chinese.
I also tried searching for 'scam ' and 'fraud' attached to the Company name, with no hits other than the Company warning against such things (such as paying via Western Union to a third party)

Alibaba state that you can buy things through them with confidence. Using Escrow.com says that the suppliers is not paid until you say so, so it ought to be safe.

Please let us know how you got on.
by stevil18 Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:17 pm
Here is a recent update:

I set up the order & payment using Escrow but the seller said we do not deal with Escrow, only western union or TT. Then I told her this:
Dear,
I am sorry due to the increase number of scammers on alibaba website. I cannot take the risk of sending money through WU or T/T, I am sure you understand the security risk I feel.
Thank you

In reply to that the seller said:

Dear,

For your consideration of the scammers, I really understand.

But our company is the identified member with reality authentication. All the information is ture and you can check it with anyway.

We have meet some customers who buy things on the Alibaba for the first time. They also had this worry of scammers, but we finally made the deal and sent the goods within a week.

For your order is 300 pieces, we could send for you within 3 days.

The trust is very important between the two sides. I understand you but you could check and verify our company. Then make your decision.

If you still can't trust us, then it is very pity that hope we could cooperate in the near future.

By the way, we have manage this business on Alibaba for 3 years and all finished via western union and T/T.

Hope you considerate it again.

Best regards
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Kindly advise me further.
Thank you
by Inspector Gadget Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:12 pm
I note their alibaba site has a gold supplier (3rd year) logo at the top, to quote Alibaba's site :

Gold Supplier is a premium membership for suppliers on Alibaba.com. It provides an extensive number of promotional opportunities to maximize their exposure and return-on-investment. To qualify for a Gold Supplier membership, a supplier must complete an authentication and verification process by a reputable third-party security service provider appointed by Alibaba.com. Once approved, Gold Supplier members are authorized to display the icon to demonstrate their authenticity.


Found their website : http://www.hologram315.com/ it's in Chinese.
Ran the site through who is :
Domain Name : hologram315.com
PunnyCode : hologram315.com
Creation Date : 2008-06-26 00:00:00
Updated Date : 2010-06-26 16:22:45
Expiration Date : 2013-06-26 00:00:00
Registrant:
Organization : chenweixun
Name : chen weixun
Address : dg
City : dg
Province/State : Guangdong
Country : CN
Postal Code : 523000
Administrative Contact:
Name : chen weixun
Organization : chenweixun
Address : dg
City : dg
Province/State : Guangdong
Country : CN
Postal Code : 523000
Phone Number : 86-86-76922878334
Fax : 86-86-76922209249
Email : [email protected]
Technical Contact:
Name : chen weixun
Organization : chenweixun
Address :
City : dg
Province/State : Guangdong
Country : CN
Postal Code : 523000
Phone Number : 86-86-76922878334
Fax : 86-86-76922209249
Email : [email protected]
Billing Contact:
Name : chen weixun
Organization : chenweixun
Address : dg
City : dg
Province/State : Guangdong
Country : CN
Postal Code : 523000
Phone Number : 86-86-76922878334
Fax : 86-86-76922209249
Email : [email protected]

With such a long lease it does appear that the company is legit, I did also find a site verification thing on the Alibaba site, which gives this :
Onsite Check is a new verification process launched by Alibaba.com for Gold Supplier members in China (Mainland). The business license and contact person information for each member is verified by a third party verification agency. In addition, member premises have also been visited by Alibaba.com employees. Learn more about the third party verification agency ZD Info. Onsite Checked Liability Disclaimer.


they pass this step as well. So it's looking good for them to be legitimate.

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