Craigslist, Ebay and other online buying/selling scams.
by ScammerInDundee Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:38 pm
This one is an identical MO to VW Campervan on EBay, the Craiglist Ebay scammer "in Dundee" is now selling motorcycles using the same stories.

(Apologies to Eleanor Gibbs as I guess she is a genuine person who has had her account hacked).

Scam: Re: 2008 Triumph Rocket III Blackold english white - £3900

Scam email address: [email protected]

Advert: http://london.craigslist.co.uk/mcy/3317928318.html (now removed).

Note: There is no such thing as being "approved to use Buyer/Seller Protection Program". No such request could be made. There's no sign-up, opt-in, or registration for Ebay's Buyer Protection Program, nor do private listings work in this manner.

Question: Where are these sh*tbag timewasters from? It is Nigeria ... Romania ... the usual suspects?

They seem to choose to use Gmail as it is impossible to trace IP addresses from ... but Gmail must be able to see them. Does Gmail act on fraud reports?

How is it possible to trace Gmail emails?

Thank you
Eleanor Gibbs <[email protected]>

Hello, We were celebrating my son exams, sorry for the delay.
Its still for sale. Immaculate condition, no damages. All necessary
documents available. I just moved back to Dundee after the death of my
husband, I was left with the bike. Price £3900 delivered at my costs. Are
you familiar to eBay? I will list the bike on eBay Motors for the £3900 buy
it now price and I will send you a link to my auction, so you can buy it
immediate.
As soon as you will confirm the payment to eBay, I will proceed delivery
without any additional costs for you.
In case you are not familiar with them just tell me you are interested and
I`ll ask them to send you the same certificate they sent me and you will
see that they cover 100% the transaction done through them up to £50,000.
You will receive the bike with all the documents. As you know eBay is the
best company of online transactions. If indeed interested in buying it and
have the funds, I will list it on eBay, as I have a 100% positive feedback
with them.
Please let me know your decision.
Thank you
Since the last buyer came with 50 pound fake notes and he still calls me late at night asking rude questions. I have requested personal support and I was approved to use Buyer/Seller Protection Program. Here is how the process works through the Buyer Protection Program:

- I'll make the private listing on eBay for you,
- you go and buy it through their website,
- you have to pay for the item to eBay so they can secure the funds,
- they confirm me that they received the funds,
- I`ll start the delivery
- When you confirm to ebay that you received it, you have two options. Option 1: I received it and its in perfect order the transactions is a success and I get my money, or option two but I don`t think you will use this one, you will contact ebay and tell them you can`t keep it. They will refund you the money and thats it. end of the deal.

You will be able to order a vehicle status report on the ebay listing if you have any doubts.

Everything is covered by eBay. I will get paid only after you confirm that you received the delivery. I need your full name and a mobile number to forward them to ebay and so you will be registered in the buyer protection program. When you will be registered ebay will get back to you with the rest of the steps
Let me know if this is acceptable. Thank you

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by Bubbles Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:26 am
Welcome to ScamWarners ScammerInDundee, scammers can come from anyplace in the world. Yes, a lot of scammers are in West Africa. There are also many scammers in Malaysia, Russia and Canada. As you indicated, it is almost impossible to find where a gmail account is located.

There isn't much email providers can do to stop scammer. They do filter words coming in to email accounts. They probably will shut down a scammer's email address when reported, however, scammers often have dozens if not hundreds of email addresses. We discourage shutting down scammer email addresses because it gives us a "handle" so we can warn other potential victims. It takes mere moments to open a new email address.

Reporting them here is one of the best things you can do, so people can find information with a search.

Bubbles, former Scamwarners moderator.

Rest in Peace 24 June 2015.

Gone, but never forgotten.
by ScammerInDundee Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:38 am
Thank you.

Just for your information, I notice Gmail actually blocked this scammer's email on the basis of its content alone (as it is identical to numerous other scam emails sent out) and it initially went into the Spam folder.

That suggests to me it is worth reporting such emails to Gmail using their "More" option if you have a Gmail account.

I wish all mail providers would make it easier to do so ... but, frankly, most of the big companies like Ebay etc appear to invest money and effort to make it difficult to find out just where to report fraudulent activity because it costs them money to process. They'd rather renege on their duty and leave their punters to pay by being cheated.

I mean, Craigslist should be able to quickly track the IPs these guys are using and block them like spammers?

The decision by Gmail *not* to show IP information publicly gives the advantage to the scammers and disadvantages the consumers.

I've never been stung but I have distinct memories of when the Romanian fraudsters descended on Ebay IT market hacking accounts and setting up fake auctions just like these, and it appears their Nigerian cousins have learned from them fast and have even bigger ambitions. I mean, who is going to accept "shipping a motor vehicle" unseen?!

Sadly, it seems to catch a few people.

(I cannot remember the name but there was one town in Romania, specifically, which was almost living off fake Ebay/Western Union fraud. Similarly, there is one area of Lagos which economy thrives off 419 and "romantic" scams and in which teams of individuals are employed.

These particularly guys seem to study the values of motor vehicles and then pitch the prices about 1/2 or 2/3rd of the real value to make it additionally enticing).

What I saw back then was that the big corporations like Ebay or Western Union's first priority was to protect themselves, by way of "compliancy departments", ensuring that they conformed to a minimum standard of *compliancy* to the law (so as they could avoid being sued for enabling or being accomplices to the crime), but did little to stop it and actually blocked and suppressed pro-active community against fraudsters.

Fighting fraud should come out of their profits not our lives.

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