Craigslist, Ebay and other online buying/selling scams.
by gsoh2011 Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:55 am
Hi,

There have been appearing recently on Gumtree ads which have the same characteristics, that is :

1 ad only list equipment specs and has nothing in it that looks like it was written by a human
2 each ad seems to have some sort of reference code at the end of the title, eg, B87
3 each ad has only one photo, often stolen from ebay
4 each ad offers kit at a price less than half market value, for example, new camera is 2,500 GBP, ebay price 1,800 GBP, Gumtree price 700 GBP - classic sign of a scam.
5 ads often posted in UK section but posting times are often 4am, etc, so not posted by a UK person.
6 ad poster appears to have not posted before

Now this is the odd part - if you email the seller, you get no reply. No attempt to scam, no fake Paypal emails, nothing at all. So what are these ads for ? They are absolutely no way genuine, but don't appear to have a purpose.
A few examples below......

http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/canon ... 1004381040

http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/canon ... 1004375997

http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/new-c ... 1004375399

http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/canon ... 1004342489

http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/canon ... 1004304610
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by gsoh2011 Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:59 am
aha !

Now I've thought about it, it has become obvious as to why those ads have reference codes on the end !
by wicked5 Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:07 pm
Enlighten us, if the seller isn't contacting anyone back, the only use would be to harvest email addresses.
by gsoh2011 Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:19 pm
wicked5 wrote:Enlighten us, if the seller isn't contacting anyone back, the only use would be to harvest email addresses.


Certainly, and I should have done so before, but got distracted - my apologies.
I wasn't getting responses because it is a team putting up the ads, and I had already baited one of the team over a couple of days. Hence the team wouldn't respond to my addy. When I switched addresses, I got responses.

As for the code, it was something I saw being done years ago on a website, don't know if it's still done, but in that case the little code put in the title was to warn other scammers that the ad was owned by a scammer. That way the ad-owning scammers don't get pestered by other scammers posing as buyers and trying to buy the non-existing goods by sending fake paypal emails.

Anybody selling something has the problem of scammy emails coming in from fake buyers - scammers have the same problem.
by wicked5 Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:44 pm
Gotcha, well that's interesting and is definitely not widely known (IMO).
by gsoh2011 Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:14 pm
I remember at one time they would put certain words in ads, but haven't seen that done for a long time.
I'll have to take a look at some CL ads and see if that technique is still being used.

I also remember being told 40 years ago that gypsies would leave a mark near your house (bent twig or something) to let other gypsies know if you were generous at the door or not. No doubt there's now an internet equivalent.

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