craigslist-paypal scam

im just dealing with 1 of those piece of shi... scammers,
i have a piano for sale in craigslist, this scammer contacted me : here is the chat

-HE-scammer-
"Hi, am Joy fruth, An Army in Cheyenne Mountain Air Force Station
Colorado. I would have love to see this item but am presently busy
here at the base. I am Okay with your advert price and i will be
sending your money asap via PayPal. Do you have PayPal account cos i
have one that I can send money through. Kindly get back to me with
your PayPal info and also have the posting deleted from Craigslist
Asap...Do reply me with the below details.

(1). Are you the original owner ?
(2). how long has it been under your care ?
(3). get back to me with your direct phone #

Regards"
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-ME-
"hi, yes i have paypal, the issue here is i did not offer any shipping service, i was thinking deliver it by myself here, locally.
let me know if you are willing to pay for the shipping cost.

1- i bought it from a chinese guy around 6 months ago, the keyboard is in great condition,
2- 956 7.........."
paypal acc: 3dscartoonc.................
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-HE-
"Okay...I will get back to you as soon as i conclude with the pick up
agent and also have the advert deleted off craigslist since i have
agreed to proceed with this deal.

Regards"
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-HE-
"Alright, I wish to inform you that an additional $650 will be added to
your money for the pick-up fee to enable the mover register the
(YAMAHA MOX6) for pick up, So I implore you to head to any Money Gram
outlet and have the excess funds sent from your pocket to the shipper
information via Money Gram Money Transfer and get back to PayPal via
email with the transfer details so as to enable them process your
money into your account after the Money Gram Transfer details is
confirmed by PayPal.

Regards"
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-HE-
"I Will Effect The Payment To You Now and you Will Receive A
Confirmation Email From PayPal After I Must Have Made The Transfer
Into Your PayPal Account, In Which You Would Be Given Instructions And
Procedures To Follow In Getting Your Funds Credited To Your Account.

Regards"
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-HE-
"I have just completed the payment and i am sure PayPal would have sent
you a Confirmation email. Kindly check all your mail folders
(inbox,spam and junk mail). I sent a total Money of $1,750 and added
$750, but $650 will be sent to my Pick Up Agent via Money Gram
transfer and The extra $100 is to cover the Money Gram transfer
fee/PayPal charges. PayPal will not release the funds until you have
completed the Money Gram transfer and emailed to them the Money Gram
transfer details for their attention so as for the mover to pick up
and inspect the item. Here is the agent's details where the money is
to be sent to.

Name: William Davis
434 T kane blvd moving land
Spokane
Wa
99203
Usa

Please get the necessary details sent to PayPal (Ref #) , Sender's
Name and Address used to send the $650.00USD so as to enable them
release your pending funds into your account Asap.

Regards"

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(at this point this situation smell like shi..)
-ME-
"hi , i know is not my business but.. why are u paying a lot of money for shipping and pick up services my friend? really are u going to pay $600 for pick up and shipping? im a ebay powerseller, i usually ship items this big for $50 or $60. im mean if u are rich is ok. just asking"

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(he does not answer my question and reply)
-HE-
"Payment has been made.. didn;t you got the email from paypal "?
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-ME-
"no email received, still need the $650 to your pick up agent? im leaving to town , please confirm ,God bless"
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-HE-
"Check your email properly am sure you gotta find the email.."
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(AT THIS POINT HE SENT ME A LOT OF TEXTS TO MY CELL, he say i need to check and open the email from paypal in my spam folder.a fake email of course, i did not open it, but im telling him i did, and asking for the next step) he answer....to my cell, texting

-HE-
"all you need to do is proceed to any money gram location and have the $750 sent to the mover from your pocket and get back to paypal with the money gram"

-HE-
"details in order from themto verify it and release your total money wich is $1,750 in less than 45 minutes, Regards"
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-ME-texting
"ok, clear, im getting the $750 now, wait.."

(AT THIS POINT IM READY TO MAKE MY MOVE WITH THIS FUC....SCAMMER)
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-HE-
"Still haven't heard from you,wanna know if you have forwarded to
Paypal the Money Gram details in order for them to credit your pending
fund asap."

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-ME- THRU EMAIL
"yes, just getting the money, because tomorrow is my daugther's birthday, the true im a little short of cash,, wait friend, God Bless"

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-HE-
"your total money wich is $1750 will be released to you once you have completed the money gram transfer and email to paypal the transfer details..also the mover will be coming for pick up tomorrow evening around 4:00 pm."
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-ME-(note:im from mcallen tx, border with mexico,, the "mover" is from Washington.. he says ..lol" and the "mover" has to cross the whole country to pick up a piano the cost $999 brand new..but the scammer going to pay $1750 for a used one? hahah whata piece of crap are those guys.)

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NOW MY MOVE YEAH!

-ME-
"Dear joy , we have a problem here , me and my wife only could get $550 dlls, i had to ask my neighbor $100 to complete $550 to send right now, now listen there is s fast solution, could you please send direct to my paypal account the $200 we need to complete the $750 required for the money gram? you can take from the rest, or i could send the $200 back to you when i get the $1750 released. please confirm asap, to complete the payment $1750 to the pick up agent, because we are going to be very busy working at our church this weekend, we need to close the deal today.
send the $200 to my paypal 3dscartooncas.........
thanks for understand Joy, God bless you"


GUYS I WILL LET YOU KNOW THE END OF THIS STORY VERY SOON

What is the scammer's email address? Other victims may be searching for it.

Please stop communicating with the scammer immediately. Do not tell him why. Just stop. You are dealing with a hardened criminal. He is West African but he may know someone in the USA or even himself be in the USA. If you piss him off, he would not think twice about killing you.

and how do u know is a west african? and the email does not matter, everybody can create multiple emails

here is his email : [email protected]

and how do u know is a west african? and the email does not matter, everybody can create multiple emails

here is his email : [email protected]

Trust us, we can recognize Western Africa's writing. The email does matter to others that are wondering if this guy is a scammer. His address will now show up in search engines when people search for it.

Thanks for posting this scam.

This is fascinating! We were trying to sell a tenor sax locally, so were very surprised to be contacted by someone claiming to be in Colorado. The messages we received were word for word exactly like yours! Even down to the $1750 (extra 750 for shipping!) and the supposed shipping agent. All we have to do is send her 750 and she will release the money. Ha! Followed up with long text messages that got progressively aggressive (we were out of town and told her we would be so could not move quickly). Emailed back and told her we felt we were being scammed and asked not to be contacted again. She replied with "Lol" (really) and said she was reporting us to the authorities for scamming! BTW-sounded at first like someone trying to sound Asian, but English improved when caught! Did you report any of this, either to paypal or to local law enforcement internet fraud folks?

PS- this all occurred on 10/31 and 11/1.

Did you report any of this, either to paypal or to local law enforcement internet fraud folks?

PS- this all occurred on 10/31 and 11/1.

Hoosierbaby, thanks for the post and welcome to scamwarners. Glad you avoided the scam entirely.

If they did indeed impersonate paypal, you would do others good to forward their fraudulent letters (with the complete headers) to [email protected], and let them investigate.

Please post the complete headers of the email(s) you received, but remove your personal information before you post them. If the IP address(es) do originate in the USA, you can report it to the IC3 https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx . Please see the link at the bottom of my post if you don't know how to retrieve the complete headers from emails.

If I understand you correctly, no crime was actually committed because you avoided it, therefore there is no reason to report it to your local PD. They have enough work with crimes, they don't usually bother with "almost" crimes. But if you want to call and ask them if they will make a report anyhow, it can't hurt to do that.

GUYS ! the end of the story, after the scammer refuse to send me $200 dollars to complete the $750 to his pickup agent, he answer " Lol, no problem just send the $550 u can send the rest later.."
i know there is no way to make understand this guys,, now he sent me this letter "FBI " letter, hahah just read, they just dont give up easy,, you are right guys, the better option here is just ignore this mother..rs,, emails,

here is the "FBI " letter
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Hello 3dscart............................

"We received complaint over the money sent into your PayPal account by Joy Fruth. We have rigorously cross checked the money sent to you and was confirmed and intact but pending. We need to verify and be sure that you have sent the additional via Money Gram money Transfer before your money can be funded into your PayPal account. This measure is taken for online security check for both the buyer/seller and we will like you to abide by all PayPal rules as regards this payment. Send the excess fund to the shipping agent as soon as you see this email and get back to us with the receipt of the Money Gram money Transfer, so that we can verify it and credit your account with immediate effect.

We need to prove beyond all reasonable doubts that you are legitimate and that's why we need you to send us a proof of this transaction in order to secure the buyer from fraud. Here's the email address that the Money Gram Money Transfer details should be sent to: [email protected]

Note:
Failure to abide by this specified instruction may lead to your name and address being forwarded to the law enforcement agency in your state to have you arrested because you are practicing scam. Your account with PayPal will be blocked. In order to avoid this, send the excess funds within 24 hours and send details to PayPal customer service department for verification. Do not hesitate to contact us if you have any comment on this issue at: [email protected]"
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HAHAHa those scammers piece of shi... are really corrupt..and stupid at the same time...
have a nice day guys!

Thank you HillBilly! We received the same threatening "FBI" email. I have a total of 3 supposed PayPal emails that I have forwarded to [email protected]. They have confirmed this is a phishing scam. I checked for the email addresses but they were not found-no big surprise there. For future reference if anybody wants to know, the scammer identifies herself as Joy Fruth. She represents herself as being in the Army at Cheyenne Mountain (NORAD). What a piece of crap!! The email she used was [email protected], and the so called paypal letters came from paypal.paymentalert@ymail.
As a side note, when I googled Joy Fruth, I found a young woman who works for a healthcare organization in LA. I sure hope that her ID is safe, and that her character is unassailed by this scammer!

LOL! This guy is at it again.... Just received a text msg for a musical instrument I am selling on CL from this same email:
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Email Joy at [email protected] your firm price ......

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what a whoozie!

This is just FABULOUS! LOL. I've got the same guy right now(joy fruth [email protected]). He sure does get around! All the same rhetoric, he's just copy/pasting it! Lol

As soon as he sent me something about Western Union(clever, he switches up from MoneyGram. Lol), I knew he was full of it, but decided to be civil. I sent him this:

"I have received NO PAYMENT notification from my ACTUAL Paypal address. I am a preferred customer at Paypal, I am NOT NEW. Further, I have no intention of traveling to WU, in ANY event. You should cancel your payments, so your funds can be refunded. Thanx..."

But, this fuqhead had the nerve to express righteous indignation with me! He sent me this:

"just wanna let you know i have reported you to the authorities for scam attempt."

Accompanied by a fake FBI webpage. Complete with the exact same grammatically incorrect english used in his own emails. LOL! So, to completely scare the s*it out of him I responded:

"AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, WHEREVER AND WHOEVER YOU ARE, I CAN FIND YOU IN 48 HOURS OR LESS. YOU HAVE CHOSEN THE WRONG PERSON, AND THIS IS NOT A GAME YOU WANT TO PLAY. FRAUD IS VERY SERIOUS. CONSIDER YOUR NEXT MOVE VERY CAREFULLY..."

Needless to say, I've not heard back. It was then that I put "434 T kane blvd moving land" into the Google search engine, and found you guys! Lol. Also, his "Paypalpayment" address comes from his own ymail address(site). I think I am going to forward his details over there to have him shut down. This is really hilarious. I feel like I'm part of a special club now. Lol...

Please do not shut down Ymail or Gmail addresses or other free email addresses. The scammers will just create new addresses and make the warnings worthless. Also don't tell the scammer that you know he's a scammer.

I have a laptop listed on Craigslist. This is how this person attempted to scam me.

515-824-7214 Add - Renwick, IA
11/25/14 9:35 AM 4 hours ago

515 824 7214 : i want to buyNice Dell Laptop-WebCam-Win 7 Pro-Core2/Duo-2.53ghz-3gb-250gb HD-WiFi - $189 9:13 AM
Me: When would you like to look at it? 9:19 AM
+15158247214: ok,i want you to know that i want buy this item for my son and i will pay you via PayPal due to schedule of my work and will also add you $100.00 for shipping Via USPS post office and if you don't have PayPal, you can go to http://www.PayPal.com and do the registration and send me the email you used during the registration so that i can send you money. Hope to hear from you asap 9:26 AM

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This is how a Craigslist Paypal Scammer attempted to scam me.
Scammer (702) 200-8644 - mobile
1/8/15 11:39 AM 3 minutes ago

Scammer: you still have it for sale? 9:23 AM
Scammer: Nice Dell Laptop-Win 7-E6400-Core2/Duo-2.66ghz-2gb-160gb HD-WiFi - $179 Hello, am interested in buying this and do 9:23 AM
Me: Yes I do. I am here this morning if you would like to try it out 9:31 AM
Scammer: Hello, What is the condition, are you the first Owner, What is your reason for selling it and What is your lowest price? do you have the receipt. 11:21 AM
Me: Hello this is Leon. The condition is excellent, Gently used. It is a fresh install of Windows 7 Pro. I am not the first owner, I have a laptop repair service and I get these off lease laptops and completely go through them to make sure everything works and looks good. As to the lowest price, you may look and make offer 11:31 AM
Scammer: Your asking price is quite reasonable and am ready to make the purchase right now and am not local right now am still in service in Maxwell Air force.I can 11:39 AM
Scammer: only pay through PayPal at the moment as i do not have access to my bank account online, but i have it attached to my PayPal account and i will include $100 as 11:39 AM
Scammer: the shipping cost once you got the money in your account you can send out the item. 11:39 AM
Scammer: So kindly get back to me with your PayPal email address for the payment. 11:39 AM
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[email protected]

Has this craigslist ad posted in multiple US cities.

2003negotiable Honda Accord - $1500

63000 miles, clean title, mostly brand new under the hood, screen above the radio tells you miles to empty, oil life, and average mpg. No wear on the interior. Only selling because I want a 4 door. Price negotiable, possible trade. [email protected]
do NOT contact me with unsolicited services or offers

Another Craigslist Paypal Scam Attempt:

Craigslist Scamer (813) 430-7396 - mobile
3/16/15 4:01 PM 4 hours ago

Craigslist Scamer: Do you still have it for sale... Dell Laptop Webcam Win 7 E6400 Core2/Duo 2.66ghz 2gb 160gb HD WiFi - $199 2:04 PM
Me: Yes 2:05 PM
Craigslist Scamer: some detailed pictures of this item so that I can pay in asap. I'll add the shipping fee to the total payment I'll be sending Thanks. 2:14 PM
Craigslist Scamer: I'm okay with your asking price I'm buying it for my cousin living in Michigan United State,I want you to get back to me with your PayPal email address and 2:14 PM

Craigslist Scamer: Oh okay but i want this and i will be glad if you sell for me.. 2:19 PM

Craigslist Scamer: Okay then get back to me with your PayPal email so that i can transfer the fund to you right away.. 3:12 PM