central watches / fakereviews

June 2010 I saw a website by the name of http://www.fakereviews.com/ that reviews sites that sell watches. That site Rates http://centralwatches.com/index.php as #1 Swiss seller. I ordered two Swiss movement watches 675.00 ea and paid an additional 225.00 for all correct markings on movments. Another site that has been discontinued I believe http://www.blogcatalog.com/blogs/replica-watch-nut.html When I picked up the 2 COD packages at the post office, CA I paid with two cashiers checks in the amount of nine hundred dollars ( $900.00 ) each, total of one thousand eight hundred dollars ( $1800.00 ) which were made out to Simmons with an address of 5906 WinterHaven Drive, Newark, DE 19702. I opened the packages to find rocks that were sent to me from Central Watches
Central watches ........................................................................................ (347) 463-4583
(person I spoke with stated his name is tom) When I call now they just hang up on me.
Additional information:
How the scam works:
http://www.rolex-replica-scams.com/
Complaints: type in central watches
www.Pissedconsumer.com
www.whoscammedyou.com
is there anyone who can help me track him down? i need to discuss the matter with him.

Hi Mountain, welcome to Scamwarners.

From what you describe, this is not the type of scam we normally deal with here, we generally deal with online fraud and the occasional website that does not live up to their customers expectations.

What you have described is something I have never dealt with, actually receiving a delivery that turned out to be rocks, the scammers we deal with will get the fees first and send nothing in return.

Did you receive any emails from this company, perhaps they may contain clues as to their location

Stated they would but never did send an email. The certified mail with the checks were signed for by a Katelin Murphy at the same address. Im here in California and its to far to go there but would love to find out who it was that did this. i tried to put a stop payment on the checks but it cannot be done. so sad there are people out there like that. well thanks and sorry for the wrong post.

There is no need to be sorry, what you have described is not something that is common to us so the advise we give you may not be as good as what we would like it to be.

We can still try to help, but may not be much help if that makes sense

Had you received an email we may have been able to get an idea on location, if you dont have it then you dont have it.

Just thinking, did you happen to pay by credit card, if so it may be worth taking it up with them, many credit card transactions are covered by insurance

Welcome to ScamWarners, mountain. No need to apologize, Ralph was just letting you know that this type of scam is not within our area of expertise. If I'm reading your post correctly, you were scammed by someone within the United States? If that is the case, contact your local law enforcement and better business bureau, they should be able to give you better advice. We normally deal with scammers operating across international borders and hiding behind the anonymity of the internet.

Edited to add: (347) 463-4583 is a cell phone in New York City, according to WhitePages.com reverse phone number look up.

thanks so much for your reply's !! i have contacted law enforcement in Newark DE and was advised to make a report here in my local police and then the dept here can contact them. whats funny is by the time all this gets done they will be long gone. i wish i paid by credit card or paypal but i paid COD with a Cashiers Check and im plain out of luck. i cannot even put a stop on it for fraud. even if i said i lost the check it could still be cashed if Simmons takes it to the bank within a 90 day period. i should have known better and i did but that review site is what made me have a little trust. thanks again for everything. it was an expensive lesson for me. its so sad there is people out there like that and they get away with it.

Though my area of expertise is UK law, it is amazing how similar it is to US law in many respects, and I can state quite categorically that a UK bank CAN stop a cashier's cheque/bank draft. The legality may be shakey but the logic is perfect. Banks don't like to do it, and will resist it, but if you have 'pull' and indisputable evidence of fraud you can do it.

I worked in a bank all my working life and I saw it done several times. The bank just says to the payee "sue us if you're unhappy', and if they're thieves or scammers of course they never do. How else do you think banks deal with stolen blank cashiers cheques ? Banks always play 'heads you win tails you lose' but if you carry weight at the bank, you can twist their arm, nicely of course.

I imagine it's too late now, but it's one of those quirky things most people don't realise and, of course, a counterfeit cashier's cheque is as worthless as a dud personal cheque. Seeing the words Cashier's Cheque doesn't mean it should be treated with any less suspicion than any other cheque.

Okay - rather than telling you what you can't do. Let me tell you now what you can do.

Tell your bank that you've been scammed and ask them for a copy of the front and back of the paid cheque, which should, and will, show you where the cheque was paid in. I presume it was into a company account.

Everything you know about this company/scammer will be smoke. So when you get to see the cheque this will be the first real information you'll get on these people. Even where you only have numbers and codes, this will be capable of translating into bank and branch name, so that now at least you know where to point your anger.

I hope that's some help.