scammer asking for a Pay Simple Account

I need some help.. My Daughter has been chatting with this man named Joesph Reily on Yahoo , which I'm sure is not his right, he is suppose to be from Raleigh NC and is a painter and anteique dealer, well now he is asking her to get a Pay Simple account because his painting were stolen or something, which I know is a scam to get her to send money. He says he loves her and you know the scoop.
I want to know if you have anything on him or if there are any other accounts in that name , thats all I have to go on.
Thank you I would love to take as many of these creeps down as I can..
Champane

First of all welcome to Scamwarners Champane

Where do I begin ?

How long would your daughter be prepared to spend in prison for this man ? - considering she's never met him and he's a scammer and a liar, and he would sell your daughter to the Devil if he could get cash for her.

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I doubt your daughter could get one of these accounts under any circumstances but, if she did, the scammer will want to use it to pass stolen card details with your daughter taking the blame and jail time.

Trying to get one of these facilities without good reason will trash her credit record to high heavens and she'll more than likely need your guarantee or support, thereby making you a party to fraud.

It's an outrageous request and shows the respect he has for your daughter - none.

I spent my whole working life in finance. My comment is very serious.

Cut off contact with this person.

I'm good at research, but I won't bother checking what's bound to be a fake name. If he he's after what's known as a merchant trader facility, he's going to be very cautious about what real information he gives out. He must have access to card details and people who deal in them know better than to hand out real information. If your daughter has spoken to him by phone that may be the only real detail he's given her.

Even merchant traders like shopkeepers can have trouble getting these facilities, so your daughter would only get it by lying and pledging something big value to get it. In doing so she'd be lining herself up to trash her life, and possibly yours, for a man she's never met. I still doubt she'd get it, but she'd be setting off alarm bells in asking for something she has no need for. If she said it was for an internet boyfriend, the company would think she's insane or a crook.

Only a crook would ask her to do it.

Thank you I knew it was a scam also, but these guys really know how to make them beleive,
I have looked everywhere and I can not pull up his name anywhere.
I know he's a scammer, He said he's from Raleigh NC but my grand daughter seen something about him wanting money to get to Iowa,,Is there any way I can get more Info on him ?
Thank you So Much for replying to me.

He has you/your (daughter's) details.

Cut off contact and don't respond to any mails. You are not anonymous to him.

I doubt he'll pursue the matter with you but you can't play detective with someone who knows you, but you don't know them.

My Daughter is 40 years old and should know she was scammed by Melvin Jenkins a month ago, thank god she sent no money. but she beleives this guy and I can't make her see he is scamming her, she has even given him her address because he was going to send flowers that never arrived.
I don't know what to do,altho she has no money and she has told him this he keeps saying pay pay .
I wish I could find him by this name on the Interet somewhere, I just can't.....all I know is he is chatting with her on yahoo chat, and can't get his chat name.
Well thank you again for your help.
I will keep trying.
Champane

It sounds to me as if he's running down a scammer's checklist of ways to make money out of your daughter and he won't give up, and it's pretty obvious he'll attempt to persuade her to do anything to get money out of her, and there are ways to do it even if she has none.

The next step would be to get her to launder stolen money or goods. As the stolen property/money would go to her address or account, the police will go to her address and not the scammer's and again, it can lead to prison. He'll get her to pay money on by Western Union or a similar method of transfer or he'll get her to post goods to Africa - the most likely place he's located.

The man is a scammer. The romance is in your daughter's mind and not in the scammer's. What he's done shows that he will say sweet words to your daughter as long as she'll go to prison to get him money.

The situation is that serious.

I wish I could find him by this name on the Interet somewhere

What could you do if you found him ?

Please have no contact the man is a criminal !!

I would suggest that you try to get your daughter to visit this site, and read some of the stories here, I am sure that she will find the same scammer script

Welcome Champane,

It sounds as if you already recognize he is a scammer, but you are looking for a way to prove it to your daughter.

First of all, Terrance is correct in saying that the scammer's goal is to use your daughter to turn stolen credit cards and/or fraudulent checks into cash.

The advice you have been given is sound, but I believe I understand your fears too. You are concerned that if you can't find something specifically naming him as a scammer, your daughter is not going to believe you. In some cases, that is a legitimate concern, and your daughter's history suggests that merely trying to get her to see or use common sense may not work.

If you cannot get her to look at things realistically, perhaps a different approach would work? Sometimes, sitting down with the victim and telling her you would like to get to know her love better opens an opportunity to very subtly point out some of the problems. It is important not to be confrontational, though, or it will backfire.

If she is involved in church or any social organization and there is someone like a pastor who she respects and looks up to, sometimes asking that person to help can make a difference. In smaller communities, sometimes even your local police are willing to help.

Or, if you can get his yahoo ID, or ID on the site she met him (facebook, myspace, dating site, etc.,) we can do some further research to get more specific information.

We could ask a warner to talk to her in general terms, but I fear that we don't have enough information yet to have an impact.

Ty Dotti, I did sit down with her today and tried to tell her, and she said you think I'm stupid mom ,and I said no I don't but I'm concerned becuse you seem to beleive him. and even after I talk to her even did her daughter, well she went right back and told him everything we said and my grand daughter said she was on Yahoo talking to him now. We are trying to find his yahoo Id but have not come up with anything.
All I have so far is his name Joseph Riley and like I said he told her he lives in Raleigh NC and that he has no family here ,his sister lives in Iowa and he was from Eroupe and came here at aga 11 ,,,RIGHT.My grand daughter by accident today found all these e mails, last night my daughter was at her house and was using her computer , and when my grand daughter turned on her pc this morning it was still logged into My daughter's Yahoo thats how we found everything, but before we could get any futher , my daughter got home to her house and logged in to Yahoo and it shut off yahoo at my grand daughters.,so we could get no Yahoo Id, but the emails we coming from Joseph Riley and I tried to put him up on yahoo with no luck.
She uses Zoosk.com and then yahoo , my grand daughter said she was a member on Match.com but I did not find her in the members there .
I hate doing this to her but I'm very concerned something bad might happen since he has so much Info about her and her address and ohone number,plus I have a grand daughter still living home too and this is making her uneasy.
Thanks if I find out anymore I will post it.
Champane

I found his yahoo e mail address [email protected]
Please see if you can find anytihg on this, ty
champane

I hate doing this to her

What you're trying to do is to save her from catastrophe.

This line points to it likely being an African scammer.

he lives in Raleigh NC and that he has no family here ,his sister lives in Iowa and he was from Eroupe and came here at aga 11

It's frequently used to cover the lack of an American accent. He may have a contact in Raleigh and/or Iowa he can use or he may have another 'mule' in one of those locations. He will be trying to scam more than one person and may be running several victims at once.

Can you post his emails with headers? There may be a number in the headers that proves that he is in Africa.

http://www.whitepages.com/dir/North-Car ... ley/Joseph

can you explain what you mean about post his e mail with headers..
Not sure how to do that..
if I can get into the email account I can post one of his emails to my daughter would that help?
Thanks Champane

[email protected]

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thank you so much for your help..
champane