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by Essmi Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:54 am
At one point Charles asked my friend to contact the
'Global Remittance Authority', a 'bank' in the U.K. that would
assist in the transfer of money from Africa to Canada - it was
another way to extort fees to move the scam along. The phone
number on the website is a forwarded mobile number that rings
first in the U.K. then transfers to a mobile in Africa. These numbers
are free to anyone who wants to appear to have a U.K. presence and
there are many service providers.

Here is the phone number for the fake bank in England - 044-703-1892154 - a guy in Africa answers it.

And here's their fake website - already well known in anti-scammer circles but still in use -

http://www.g-gey.net/about/about.html
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by benjamin Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:04 am
Thanks for posting that, we'll certainly have to get that closed down - I'll post it on our sister site.

by Johann Meister Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:58 am
I´m sorry I have not thought of that myself :oops:
See, it was a good idea to post about this, Essmi. More people have more diversed and generally better advice :)
by Essmi Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:05 pm
If anyone would like to try to convince my friend that he is being scammed by 'Charles Koffi Jr.' I would welcome the help. He is currently involved in helping Charles to repair a 'money washing machine', after sending money for an endless variety of documents and chemicals. It would be helpful for people with experience to tell him that there is NO money washing machine in existence, and there are NO chemicals for cleaning money. He believes that his situation is unique because he's been to Africa and met with the scammers in person. Johann has mentioned that some people become 'victims for life' and it would be a very sad, devastating thing to have to accept that this could be the case here. So much has already been sacrificed. I won't make public my friend's e-mail address but people with experience who can help prove that Charles is lying, you are welcome to send private messages and I'll connect you with the person who needs help. Thanks so much to everyone who has responded thus far.

by benjamin Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:35 pm
PM sent
by Essmi Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:02 am
If this isn't another fake site, I'll consider my scam radar seriously flawed.

http://www.01ef1acnetsolhost.com/solution.html

And this one is sad. It's so pathetic. A place where people go to buy and sell 'chemicals' for cleaning money. They don't seem to trust each other, no surprise there since it's mostly scammers trying to scam each other. Maybe this one should be left in place to keep them busy. I'll leave that up to the experienced people here. Good resource for scammer e-mail addresses.

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/saudi- ... B0RRTHI6T6

by Ralph Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:14 am
Hi Essmi,

You have helped us with some valuable information on fake sites and you have provided other potential victims with lots of proof that they are being scammed, your postings here will no doubt play a big part in preventing somebody from being scammed in the future.

It is hard knowing somebody is being scammed but not know how to get through to the victim, we find ourselves in that same situation all too often.

I will let the others do their work here, we dont like to send too many warnings as it can become counter productive.

Let's hope we can get through to him
by Essmi Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:30 pm
Me too Ralph. It's like watching a car crash in slow motion and screaming, but not loud enough to warn the driver. Perhaps our voices in unison will be heard.

by Johann Meister Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:31 pm
Dear Essmi, just sent you a reply, just what we were planning to do. I hope it can be of use to you.

by Johann Meister Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:31 pm
This is her reply, she asked me to post this here for all to read who have been contributing to help.
Johann, I have not been in touch with the others at SW and don't have the energy at the moment to post
anything further or write e-mails, but please feel free to forward the mail I've sent you...I trust the others
will keep them confidential and use them only for their own educational purposes. An account of all this
will eventually be published anyway, with our names withheld. Everyone has been so kind and understanding
at SW. I want them all to know how much their efforts are appreciated.
Essmi
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by George Fox Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:32 pm
A small piece of good news

This in from Network Solutions
"RE: g-gey.net - abuse report
The hosting was suspended.

Thanks,
Jessica"

So the fake site g-gey.net is dead - for now at least.

by Johann Meister Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:42 pm
Thanks :) :) it feels good to hear some good news at last :) Good work!

by Ralph Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:08 am
Essmi, the more I read of this and the more I think about it, the more I feel the only person who can help him now is himself, you have shown us that you care deeply for your friend, he will be wishing we are all wrong if for no other reason to be able to tell you he told you so.

Now he will be letting his pride get in the way of reality, I feel that deep down he knows we are all right but cant stand the idea of admitting that to himself let alone to anybody else.

One day he may begin to take our advice, he may do some research on the details of the scammer, he may take one of those Black bank notes to the bank and ask the bank if the note appears to be a real note that is black, a long shot could be to compare a blackened note to a real note, he may even find it is a different size, he may be smart enough to attempt to scratch off this paint to reveal what is underneath, of course it is simply a black piece of paper.

The washing machine that will Alledgedly solve all of these problems may well be a miracle machine ( in reality a piece of junk made from an old washing machine an some computer parts designed to steal more of his money through lies) but if this extremely expensive solution is any good it will surely work at least a little if it is applied, he may also want to try using other substances on the notes such as thinners or turps or one of those products advertised on TV that will remove all stains, of course if the black dye does come off, all that will be left is paper, if it does not come off then one must wonder what this miracle thing he has ruined his life for is.

I presume he witnessed a demonstration on a note that was "fixed", so why is it that they didn't do more notes while it was there, why cant they send him that same machine that was working, surely he has paid enough now to pay for that machine several times.

He may wish to google the scammers (charles is no doubt NOT his real name so Scammer is the only name we will ever have for him) email address, phone number or even the information given to send the money.

Essmi, to you in particular, you are allowing your friend to ruin your life as well, this can no longer continue, victims of scams will believe so deeply that everything will be OK that they forget about the pain they are causing to their own family, he will hopefully take a hard look at the pain he is causing the peopl around him for this person who's email address and phone number appear on other scam related sites.

The wash wash scam or back money scam has been perpetrated on others but of course he will believe that this case is different, no it's not! and if he googles "wash wash scam" he will find storys just like his

He will be very likely be targeted by other scammers with a host of other scams now that he has been marked as a victim, the scammer will extract every last cent, then change the scam to get even more.

You have shown more patience than anybody could be expected to give, you have done all you can and now he needs to see it for himself, tell his family and friends, every last one that he is being scammed and is likely to ask them for help, they must not give it to him.

Many people will begin to smell the roses when they are sleeping in the gutter and not before, as sad as it seems, you need to let him slip into the gutter so he can see how shitty his life has become as a result of this thief.

This scammer is not his friend, what good things have happened as a result of meeting this person, what was his life like before this scammer came into it, is it better now, does he have more friends, has his bank account gone up, how much has this cost him so far and I dont just mean money, even if the black paper was money, is it worth what has happened to him and those around him, surely not.

If he were reading this I would tell him the same, it sounds tough, but so is life and he needs to face the facts for himself

One day with any luck, realisation will set in and he will realise that his life has crashed around him as a result of his "new African friend" and he will then need help, he can only hope that by that time there are still some people left that will help him after the hell he has put them through as a result of his being so stubborn.

Many people fall for this scam, he doesn't need to feel like an idiot as he is not, but he does need to realise how selfish he has been to everybody around him.

by George Fox Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:49 pm
In case anyone wonders about the evidence that was presented to prove that g-gey.net was a fake site, I managed to get a copy of the abuse report that was sent to Network Solutions[quote]Subject: Abuse Report

Dear Sirs,

URL http://www.g-gey.net

IP - 205.178.145.65

This is a fraudulent domain which is being used in a 419 scam and abusing your AUP. The domain contains a fake bank website which is being used in internet fraud.

g-gey.net is listed in the database of fake domains here http://db.aa419.org/fakebanksview.php?key=27860

The site claims to be a bank, but the bank is not registered with proper authorities. This is a sure sign of a fake bank, and is a guarantee of its illegal nature.

This bank claims to be located in the UK; financial institutions in this country are regulated by the FSA - this bank does not appear on their list of legitimate banks.

This fake website is being used as part of a “wash-washâ€

by Johann Meister Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:18 pm
One more piece of evidence they are proven scammers.

Very insightful, thanks for posting their abuse report here!

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