Has someone offered you a huge sum of money or a valuable consignment? It's a 419 or advance fee fraud - find out how they work, and what to do to be safe.
by Druid82 Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:14 am
Hello everybody!

I also was contacted by Andersenmergers regarding buying "my stocks":) which I bought from FoxGlobal this spring.

Quote
Dear ...,

We hope this email finds you in the best of health. The purpose of this
email is to furnish you with the Non Disclosure Agreement form, that has
been duly attached which must be signed by yourselves before we can
proceed to resolve this matter for you. Kindly sign the form immediately
and send it back to us by email. Please notice that our CFO has already
signed the documents on our behalf. Should you have any other queries
please contact me at my contact details listed below my name or inquire
through our website which is http://andersenmergers.com/.

Yours sincerely,

David Hill
Legal Representative
Address: China Life Tower 16 Chao Wai Street
Chaoyang District Beijing 100020 China
Tel: +86-10-84053522
Email: [email protected]

Unquote

I don't think that there is a way to catch them. I contacted security department of the bank to where I transferred money in same day when I realised scam. But bank will not give you any personal client's information. Maximum they can close an acount and start criminal proceeding, like in my case. Even police asked me about some details. But so far no results and I honestly don't wait for it.

Appreciate if somebody can send new web page http://andersenmergers.com to same place as previous scams. Cause I think it is the most important thing for their activities.

Sure those guys are also reading this post. But don't want to swear in good place:) Anyway they know what I wish them.

Thanks to scamwarners for doing this!
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by Dora Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:38 pm
http://dbtrustcorp.com/recovery/

They certainly don't have any web presence except for their own website. Google shows nothing for DB Trust Company Americas Information Technology Group, DB Trust, or anything similar.

The WHOIS:
Domain Name: DBTRUSTCORP.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
Name Server: NS2167.HOSTGATOR.COM
Name Server: NS2168.HOSTGATOR.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 05-jul-2010
Creation Date: 05-jul-2010
Expiration Date: 05-jul-2011

Registrant Contact:

David Curtis ()

Fax:
2021 W Curry Rd
New York,
US

Administrative Contact:
DB Trust Company Americas Information Technology Group
David Curtis ([email protected])
Domain Name: DBTRUSTCORP.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
Name Server: NS2167.HOSTGATOR.COM
Name Server: NS2168.HOSTGATOR.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 05-jul-2010
Creation Date: 05-jul-2010
Expiration Date: 05-jul-2011

>>> Last update of whois database: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 22:19:00 UTC <<<

Queried whois.enom.com with "dbtrustcorp.com"...

Registration Service Provided By: Hostgator.com
Contact: [email protected]
Visit: http://www.hostgator.com

Domain name: dbtrustcorp.com

Registrant Contact:

David Curtis ()

Fax:
2021 W Curry Rd
New York,
US

Administrative Contact:
DB Trust Company Americas Information Technology Group
David Curtis ([email protected])
+1.9142011012
Fax: 1.11
1025 Curry Rd
New York, NY 10025
US


I can't find any hits for the phone number (even tried to see if anything came up in a reverse directory), and google maps show there isn't even that address in NY. clicky

And last, but not least, I can't find them registered to do business in the State of NY. http://www.dos.state.ny.us/corps/

So definitely scammy and avoid.
by GomerPyle Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:24 am
Dora's absolutely spot on in nominating it as a follow up scam, and who are the only people who know you got scammed ? - the scammer who originally swindled you.

It's known as a 'recovery scam' and it's so obvious it's not even worth looking into it in any detail as no commercial enterprise would offer to work for no fees. Of course there will be a cost to you at some later date but they want you to bite on their bait first and only then will they expose the matter of costs and expenses.

The idea behind it is that they believe that someone who has been pressure sold an investment before will be more vulnerable than a new lead, and they have the benefit of knowing exactly how the first scam was pulled off, so they can eaily masquerade as being knowledgeable and helpful.

The follow up scam is fatally flawed because you can't get any form of compensation in respect of the original scam when you don't even know who scammed you. The original stockbroker didn't exist and nor does this new company. They just build new websites and try to pressure sell using the website and false identity to establish credibility. The greater shame is that those who've lost a large amount of money may be tempted, expecially if the seller can pitch the cost at a level that makes it appear worth taking a risk, but there is no chance whatsoever that these people can recover you money - they're the same scammer coming back for more money.

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by Dora Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:33 pm
^^^ Gomer, thank you for adding the in-depth explanation of the recovery scam and I apologize for not doing it myself. :oops:

Just an update: dbtrustcorp.com http://dbtrustcorp.com/recovery/ was reported to the hoster by one of the site killers and is now suspended by the host. :D
by hindsightneeded Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:19 pm
Hello All,
Sorry to say that I need to join this club too - after being taken in the Thomas Moore scam and now being pursued by Andersen Megers...who want to buy the TM "provided" stock. I can't believe I fell for the original scam but hindsight eh..

I'll post all relevent info within this forum starting with the first contact - watch this space...

As per our conversation today please find below relevant current press
releases which show why we are so excited about our present stock
recommendation Research In Motion Ltd. (RIMM). Please click on the
following links:

Research In Motion Ltd. (RIMM) Price Summary
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=rimm

Sep 1: Motorola, RIM upgraded by Credit Suisse
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/story/ ... 1DE2BB3243

Sep 1: RIM, Motorola and Palm favored in smart-phone war
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/story/ ... 4F9C56301B

Aug 18: Spare Change for Apple, RIM or Palm Shares?
http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/2009 ... hoo_ticker

Aug 18: Did Apple Do Dell Another Favor?
http://www.fool.com/investing/value/200 ... favor.aspx

Aug 17: RIM Outpaces Rivals to Lead Fortune Fastest-Growing List
http://www.cnbc.com/id/32447065/site/14 ... &par=yahoo

Aug 11: Research In Motion, Edison: Ratings Changes
http://www.thestreet.com/story/10570039 ... anges.html

Aug 10: UPDATE 4-Nortel CEO to step down, quarterly loss widens
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsN ... dChannel=0

Aug 3: yahoo finance- the stocks to lead the recovery
http://www.fool.com/investing/small-cap ... overy.aspx

Aug 3: yahoo finance- July’s almost-best performers
http://stocks.investopedia.com/stock-an ... er=YahooSA

July 27: yahoo finance- Alaskan police dept implements award-winning
mobile data project
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Alaska-Po ... l?x=0&.v=1

July 24: yahoo finance- lower, lower, buy!!
http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/24/ebay-q ... r=yahootix

July 23: yahoo finance- 5 tech stocks for the second half
http://www.cnbc.com/id/32090004/site/14 ... &par=yahoo

July22: yahoo finance- research in motion crashes apple’s party
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2 ... party.aspx

july21: yahoo finance- the stockpickers, portfolio powers up with rimm
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=RIMM&t=2 ... 7:45-04:00

July20: yahoo finance- apple, rimm outsmart phone market
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1248051 ... d=yahoo_hs

July13:yahoo finance- IT on the iphone: use it at your own cost and peril
http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/20 ... ahoo_quote

July9: yahoo finance- upgraded by Kaufman bros
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ud?s=RIMM

July6: yahoo finance
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/micros ... teid=yhoof

July1: yahoo finance- throw this stock away
http://www.fool.com/investing/value/200 ... -away.aspx

June30: yahoo finance- sector snap: shares of handset makers mixed
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Sector-Sn ... l?x=0&.v=1

June26: yahoo finance-password-free phones pose id theft threat
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/PasswordF ... l?x=0&.v=3

June26: yahoo finance- under the radar-
http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/story/1 ... &cm_ite=NA

june24: yahoo finance- four must see charts, smartphone stocks
http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/story/1 ... &cm_ite=NA

june24: yahoo finance- china telecom may bring blackberry to china
http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/story/1 ... &cm_ite=NA

june22: yahoo finance- rim’s riding the storm out
http://www.fool.com/investing/high-grow ... m-out.aspx

jun21: yahoo finance- consumers drive bulk of blackberry growth
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1245357 ... d=yahoo_hs

jun 19: yahoo finance- Rim: big plans for the second half
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/ ... gn_id=yhoo

jun 18: yahoo finance- Rim earnings jump in first quarter
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/rim-ea ... eid=yhoof2

jun18: yahoo finance- Research In Motion reports first quarter results
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Research- ... l?x=0&.v=3

jun 17: yahoo finance- Backberry maker Research in Motion dominates Apple,
and Palm
http://money.cnn.com/2009/06/17/technol ... ahoo_quote

jun 16: yahoo finance- Rim holding steady
http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/16/rim-bl ... r=yahootix

Jun15: yahoo finance- earnings lookahead-analysts to watch for profit
margin pressures at Rim
http://moconews.net/article/419-earning ... es-at-rim/

Jun10: yahoo finance: Cramer: smartphones set off sea change
http://www.cnbc.com/id/31214473/site/14 ... &par=yahoo

Jun1: yahoo finance- don’t underestimate the blackberry
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2 ... berry.aspx

jun1: yahoo finance- four horseman of the nasdaq
http://www.thestreet.com/p/_yahoo/rmone ... ite=003190


Information regarding our company may be found at our corporate website
www.thomasmoore.biz.

Kindly peruse through the above and I will contact you shortly to discuss
the matter further.



Yours Sincerely,


Gregory Harrison
Senior Portfolio Manager

Fukoku Seimei Bldg
2-2 Uchisaiwai-cho 2-chome
Chiyoda-ku
Tokyo Japan 100-0011
Tel: +813 4520 9682
Fax: +813 4496 6466

[email protected]

More to follow
by hindsightneeded Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:23 pm
Here the first bite of the cherry.....

As discussed with your Senior Portfolio Manager Mr. John Morgan your
order has been entered and accepted for the purchase of 150 Research in
Motion (RIMM) shares at a price of xxx per share for a total of
xxxxxx(inclusive of our 1% commission).

Please be advised that the trading confirmation allocating the share
purchase and all the relevant account opening documents have been duly
attached. Included are the following: (1) Trading Confirmation, (2)
Individual/Joint Account Opening Form & W8 Tax Exemption, (3) Terms &
Conditions.

I trust all the above will meet with your requirements and I will call you
shortly to help you with all the paperwork. In the meantime please sign
and date the trading confirmation and send it back to me by either fax or
email so we can start the process of establishing your account.

For the latest price update for Research in Motion please go to
http://finance.yahoo.com and enter the stock ticker symbol RIMM or click
below:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=rimm

Best Regards,

David Earle
Accounts & Compliance Officer

Thomas Moore
Fukoku Seimei Bldg, 2-2
Uchisaiwai-cho 2-chome
Chiyoda-ku
Tokyo Japan 100-0011
Tel: +813 4520 8919
Fax: +813 4496 6466
Email: [email protected]
by hindsightneeded Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:25 pm
Here's their bank details for that transaction ....

PAYMENT INSTRUCTIONS
ACCOUNT NAME: THOMAS MOORE GLOBAL LTD
IBAN ACCOUNT NO.: HU10 1070 0172 4901 5500 5000 0005
ACCOUNT NUMBER: 0017 490 155 500
SWIFT CODE: CIBHHUHB
BANK NAME: CIB BANK LTD
BANK ADDRESS: 7400 KAPOSVAR, FO STREET 13
HUNGARY
To ensure a quick transfer with no delays use the account number together with the
IBAN code. If no space for IBAN code include it in the field titled “additional
information / instructions” Putting all the details correctly namely “account name”
“bank name”, “account number”, “IBAN Code”, “bank address”, “swift code” will
ensure a prompt and efficient transfer.
Please request “same day transfer” when effectuating the payment. Any charges for
same day transfer will be paid by us, the beneficiary.
In the bank message field for reason of payment:
TMG Account Code 601310
Account Consultancy Fees
PLEASE FOLLOW PAYMENT INSTRUCTIONS AS STATED ABOVE
by hindsightneeded Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:31 pm
Here's the second mistake I made with TM....

ur recommendation is xxxx Zenith National Insurance Corp. shares at a
price of xxxx per share for a total of xxxhowever, since you
have an account balance of xxxxxx should you wish to proceed the total
amount due will be xxxxx
Please be advised that the trade confirmation allocating the share
purchase and the payment instructions have been duly attached. The
documents included are the: Trade Confirmation and Payment Instructions.

Please find the provided link below for your perusal:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ZNT

I trust all the above will meet with your requirements. Please sign and
date the trade confirmation and send it back to me by either fax or email
immediately.

With regards,

Michael Green
Senior Vice President of Institutional Trading
Email: [email protected]
by hindsightneeded Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:32 pm
the bank details for this transaction are:-

ACCOUNT NAME: THOMAS MOORE GLOBAL LTD
IBAN ACCOUNT NO.: HU10 1070 0172 4901 5500 5000 0005
ACCOUNT NUMBER: 0017 490 155 500
SWIFT CODE: CIBHHUHB
BANK NAME: CIB BANK LTD
BANK ADDRESS: 7400 KAPOSVAR, FO STREET 13
HUNGARY
To ensure a quick transfer with no delays use the account number together with the
IBAN code. If no space for IBAN code include it in the field titled “additional
information / instructions” Putting all the details correctly namely “account name”
“bank name”, “account number”, “IBAN Code”, “bank address”, “swift code” will
ensure a prompt and efficient transfer.
Please request “same day transfer” when effectuating the payment. Any charges for
same day transfer will be paid by us, the beneficiary.
In the bank message field for reason of payment:
TMG Account Code 601310
Account Consultancy Fees
PLEASE FOLLOW PAYMENT INSTRUCTIONS AS STATED ABOVE
by hindsightneeded Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:36 pm
The next posting is another "opportunity - fortunately I declined this one!

Our recommendation is 15,000 Gerdau Ameristeel Corp. shares at a price of
$7.69 per share for a total of $116,503.50 however, since you have an
account balance of xxxxx should you wish to proceed the total amount
due will be xxxxx

Please be advised that the trade confirmation allocating the share
purchase have been duly attached.

Please find the provided link below for your perusal:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=GNA

I trust all the above will meet with your requirements. Please sign and
date the trade confirmation and send it back to me immediately.

With regards,

Michael Green
Senior Vice President of Institutional Trading
by hindsightneeded Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:39 pm
Thereafter TM went quiet, but suddenly Anderen Mergers pop up ...

Thank you for the Non Disclosure Agreement. As per our conversation please
find attached the Private Stock Agreement. There you will find the terms
and conditions of the non-negotiable offer. If you are in the position to
accept the offer then kindly sign and date the acceptance section of the
schedule 1 document of the agreement and get it back to us immediately so
we can embark on the process to resolve this situation for you. If for
some reason you are not satisfied with the terms and conditions of the
agreement then please kindly sign and date the decline section of the
agreement.

Yours sincerely,

David Hill
Legal Representative
Address: China Life Tower 16 Chao Wai Street
Chaoyang District Beijing 100020 China
Tel: +86-10-84053522
Email: [email protected]


but you know all about these guys already so I won't replicate the public data. If anyone can help I'd be pleased to talk to you - thanks
by GomerPyle Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:22 am
Are you a UK citizen hindsightneeded ?

I only ask this because recently a special task force was set up in the UK to deal with online fraud but it's usual that they'll only deal with fraud effecting citizens of their own country. That's the usual situation with any country's police or anti=crime/fraud forces.

The chances of achiving the return of your money is remote, but you have some good information and this type of fraud is what they're set up to handle. If anyone can do anything, they're the body to do it.

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by hindsightneeded Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:04 am
Yes I'm a UK citizen but currently residing in Singapore - would the UK authorities still be interested?
by hindsightneeded Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:03 am
Pls advise What is the correct agency to contact within the UK

btw - here's the latest correspondence from AM....

NOTICE OF DEFAULT
Be hereby notified that xxxx isnow considered in default for his xxxx shareholdings in 2enith
National Insurance Corp (ZNT) due t0 current filings and of intent relative to the Zenith National
Insurance Corp (ZNT) due buyout, this present status thus geared towards the termination of being a
tradable entity within Thirty (30) days from date, 12-16-2010.
Before said buyout will be executed, all current shareholders shall be given an opportunity to'sell the
aforementioned shareholdings in the amount of xxxx per share, an offering price to all investors
based on an audited assessment value of the shareholdings provided by a certified assigned Federal
Auditor.
Should xxx refuse or decline said offer by the appointed transfer agent, Andersen Mergers
must be informed and a notice of intent to decline by the shareholder must be filled Thirty (30) days upon
receipt of the official notice of declination with full disclosure of the results arising from said declination of
the offer.
In respect to ownership of the above mentioned shareholdings xxxx shall not be entitled to
exercise a right of redemption as the shares will be considered null and void by the United States
Securities Regulatory Commission. Hence, all rights and value of said shareholdings will be
transferred to the United States Securities Regulatory Commission.
Please note that whether
xxxx expressed
his intention to sell the shareholdings or hereby
agree and accepted the terms and conditions of the declination of the offer, this notice must be signed
and attested on the respective conformity section provided below and returned within Thirty (30) days
upon receipt of this official notice.
SIGNED
DATE
12-16-2010 $,-g;i i.r,:d++lir
Mr. Matthew Goldstein
Chief Financial Officer
NOTICE OF DEFAULT
DATE

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