Has someone offered you a huge sum of money or a valuable consignment? It's a 419 or advance fee fraud - find out how they work, and what to do to be safe.
by Bubbles Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:42 am
I did a search of this domain thomasmoore.biz and found that at least one other forum is discussing this as a "boiler room" scam. It seems to be international in scope.


I have edited out the information I had previously posted about Anderson Mergers. The website was created in October of this year, which is often a sign of a fraudulently created web site. Thank you to the sharp eyes of a site killer for this information.

Bubbles, former Scamwarners moderator.

Rest in Peace 24 June 2015.

Gone, but never forgotten.
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by totalidiot Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:00 am
<Mod note: site is being investigated - Michael>

This is received from one of the victims, anyone have any comment how reliable is this and if such organisation exist? Federal Depository do they do this kind of selection?

Dear Mr XX

We are one of the venture capital firms that have been selected by the Federal Depository to acquire certain securities issued by another investment company that have been restricted to do business. I am sending you herewith the list of documents needed for me to verify and study the shares you own for selling.
I am requesting you to fax me a copy of the following:
1. Share Certificate
2. Payment receipt / invoice
3. Copies of Identification
4. Filed W-8 BEN Form for the tax exemption
Upon receiving, I shall inform you on the procedure of selling & redeeming your profits using our services. I shall be in touch with you again to further discuss this opportunity.
For more information please log on to our website http://www.firstprimecorp.com or e-mail us at [email protected] .

Sincerely,
XX
FIRST PRIME CORPORATIONS
Address: 201 Varick Street 10th Floor New York, NY 10014
Telephone: 1-914-214-5306
Fax: 1-646-390-7429
Email: [email protected]
http://www.firstprimecorp.com
by GomerPyle Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:39 am
The recovery scam is a standard follow up used by a scammer to extract more funds.

It sounds like utter bulls*** and undoubtedly it is, but I'll give the site a once over. It may provide useful information, but don't get excited. These people are smarter than even the 419 scammers we usually handle, and they rarely get caught, I'm sorry to say.

I've been doing some research on properly regulated and 'respectable' investment companies, and what I've seen them getting involved in is quite shocking, so it only makes it clear to avoid any company that isn't known to you, and even then, I'd be extremely cautious. If they were offering 'dead cert' money spinners, they wouldn't be offering them for sale.

The scammers you've dealt with are top level and sophisticated, but the message they use is the same as that used by internet scammers in West Africa - they want to give you money, but you need to pay them first.

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by GomerPyle Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:06 am
The identity of the site registrant is hidden behind a privacy protection service, which is a 'red flag'. It's a little silly for scammers to do that as hiding their identity gives the game away completely. The phone number 1-914-214-5306 is from a service known as 'Voxbone' who offer 'Local number portability'. In other words you ring the USA and get re-directed to another country. A company located in the USA doesn't need to use a service like that.

As a financial services site it's as credible as a fake nose on a donkey. I won't list all the flaws as they'd use it to improve a later version, but I've downgraded them as being much less than top level scammers for that effort.

It has no links and a Google search reveals no mention other than its existence as a website. There isn't one solid fact or checkable reference on the site. It's as much use as soggy toast, and is nothing more than a charade to back up 'boiler room' activity. These scammers use the phone as their 'weapon' and they'll do anything to get you back on the line.

There's also a very silly, but very fundamental, error they've made that not even the most basic company would make, which surprisingly points to this as originating from West African scammers. I won't point it out, but any corporation of any size would have their lawyers check the site for this type of mistake. It's one thing to copy another company's terms and conditions, and they're not correct either, but the site has no shred of credibility.

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by totalidiot Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:16 pm
Thanks Gomer for the insight. Can anyone advise if this federal depository exists and what do they do?

Michael any outcome on the investigation on the site?
by GomerPyle Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:19 am
The scammers are using word association on you and other victims.

What they want you to believe is that they are somehow associated with this organisation

http://www.fdic.gov/

which they aren't, of course, and they know that the website would be cinders within days if it openly pretended to have any association with them, but that's how scammers operate. They offer a name that gives you an impression of being official whereas the website is nothing. They know that if the website contains any promises or facts that can be tested and checked it'll be shut down, so it functions as glossy wrapping to back up their phone calls and e-mails that will promise you anything.

There are many properly authorised and regulated share dealing companies that you should steer well clear of, but dealing with one that isn't authorised at all guarantees you'll lose your money. If they had sure fire methods to make money they wouldn't be telling you about it, they'd be using it themselves.

They've got you on a hook over the money you've lost, but anything else they send your way will merely be them trying to get more money out of you. Finding new victims is tough, but to them you have demonstrated your vulnerability to their pitch, so they won't leave you alone.

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by Dora Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:31 pm
To those following this thread, http://www.firstprimecorp.com/ has been suspended by the registrar, Directi. They also have suspended another with a similar template, http://www.bestinvestorsgrp.com/.

In addition, they removed the privacy protection of the registrant details, so you can now see the fraudulent details used to register these fraudulent/fake/scam domains.

Domain Name: FIRSTPRIMECORP.COM
Registrar: DIRECTI INTERNET SOLUTIONS PVT. LTD. D/B/A PUBLICDOMAINREGISTRY.COM
Whois Server: whois.PublicDomainRegistry.com
Referral URL: http://www.PublicDomainRegistry.com
Name Server: NS1.SUSPENDED-DOMAIN.COM
Name Server: NS2.SUSPENDED-DOMAIN.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientHold
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 15-jan-2011
Creation Date: 09-dec-2009
Expiration Date: 09-dec-2011


Domain Name: FIRSTPRIMECORP.COM

Registrant:
Thompson Creatives, Inc.
Kim Allen Thompson ([email protected])
2917 W. 4th St., Corning, NY 14830
Corning
New York,14830
US
Tel. +1.18685341094


Quote:
Domain Name: BESTINVESTORSGRP.COM
Registrar: DIRECTI INTERNET SOLUTIONS PVT. LTD. D/B/A PUBLICDOMAINREGISTRY.COM
Whois Server: whois.PublicDomainRegistry.com
Referral URL: http://www.PublicDomainRegistry.com
Name Server: NS1.SUSPENDED-DOMAIN.COM
Name Server: NS2.SUSPENDED-DOMAIN.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientHold
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 15-jan-2011
Creation Date: 18-jan-2010
Expiration Date: 18-jan-2012


Domain Name: BESTINVESTORSGRP.COM

Registrant:
None
King James Davies ([email protected])
1202 East Carso. Carson, CA
California
CA,CA
AF
Tel. +93.12032216452


THANK YOU, Directi! You are a great registrar! :D


Also please note this site by the SEC: http://www.sec.gov/investor/oiepauselist.htm

For each of the entities named below, our staff has determined either (1) that there is no US registered securities firm with this name, or (2) that there is a US registered securities firm with the same (or a similar) name but that solicitations appear to have been made by persons who are not affiliated with the US registered securities firm.


A nice site to take note of, but remember, just because they aren't on the list, doesn't mean the are legit. Do your homework! :D
by GomerPyle Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:55 am
Nice work on that Dora :D but don't believe totalidiot, that the registrant information can be relied on. I suspect that that's faked too.

The number of fake companies and websites on the internet nowadays is frightening and if you consider that any company contacting you 'out of the blue' is a fake, you'll be right most of the time.

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by Dora Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:17 am
Thank you.

Certainly almost 100% of all registrant details for scam sites are fake/fraudulent or have been stolen from details of real people, places on the internet. I mean, what scammer is going to register a fake/fraudulent site in their real name? :lol:

However, getting the registrant details opened up and posted does help in several ways. One, it lets the scammers know that the privacy registration companies will take action if they abuse their policies. Two, it can help us track the names, addresses, phone numbers, and email addies that the scammers use. There are some gangs of scammers that tend to use the same details over and over and it can help with recognition and to prove fraudulent use. Also, if the details are of a real person, whose identity is being used fraudulently, they can be warned of this abuse.

And you are right, Gomer, there are so many fraudulent/scam websites and companies out on the internet that I rarely believe any of them until I have completely investigated them. :D

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