by ceceryder
Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:49 pm
fixed image tag -dotti
man4love13
looking for the one who is caring
IM me now!
• 56-year-old man
• Alexandria, Ohio, United States
• seeking women 51-69
• in United States
Relationships: Never Married
Have kids: Yes, and they live away from home (1)
Want kids: Not sure
Ethnicity: • Native American
Body type: About average
Height: 5'10" (178cms)
Religion: Christian / Catholic
Smoke: No Way
Drink: Social Drinker
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man4love13
looking for the one who is caring
IM me now!
• 56-year-old man
• Alexandria, Ohio, United States
• seeking women 51-69
• in United States
Relationships: Never Married
Have kids: Yes, and they live away from home (1)
Want kids: Not sure
Ethnicity: • Native American
Body type: About average
Height: 5'10" (178cms)
Religion: Christian / Catholic
Smoke: No Way
Drink: Social Drinker
for fun:
movies video games
About my life and what I'm looking for
'm a single (divorced) man who is ready to find the woman that I can spend the rest of my life with, sharing a love like no other. I used to think of myself as a "Hopeless Romantic", but I've learned that I should see myself as a "Hopeful Romantic" because I truly believe that there is someone for everyone and I'm ready for "My Someone". I can say that I've been blessed enough to have loved before, but I don't understand the need that some have to be unfaithful, and honestly I refuse to "share" my mate. Therefore, I've moved on thru the healing process, and am ready to find someone that has the same moral values I do.
I live life treating others the way that I want to be treated and almost always see the glass as 1/2 full. I love animals & have dogs that are very spoiled and I'm not sure that they know they're not human. I know that life is short and I'm ready to live it to the fullest. I do thank GOD for every day given to me. I've been blessed with a fantastic family and have some wonderful friends.
My friends would tell you that I'm tender hearted and there's nothing I wouldn't do for those that I care about. I don't like to see someone being mistreated and believe that we should always think about what we are gonna do or say, before we do or say it so that we don't cause pain to others. I know that there have been times when I've caused pain to someone else, but I didn't like the hurt they felt, and really try to think first so it doesn't happen again.
I would like to meet someone that isn't afraid of affection ... holding hands, the quick kiss, a hug... The surprise note left on the mirror or the text or voice mail that says "I'm thinking about you". I love to see a smile on the faces of those I care about and with just the thought of that smile, it brings a smile to my face thru the day even if we're not together. I love to laugh and enjoy making others laugh too.
I love the outdoors, and being around water. I enjoy fishing and hunting but haven't gotten to do either lately. I have my motorcycle license but recently got rid of my bike and miss it already. I do believe that there is something about feeling the wind in your face and the wonderful smells of the beautiful outdoors when on a bike, in a boat going across the water and even walking around a park...it's a feeling like none other.
About me
Hair: Grey
Eyes: Brown
Sports and exercise: • Baseball
• Basketball
• Dancing
• Football
• Hockey
• In-line skating
• Swimming
• VolleyBall
Exercise habits: Exercise 3-4 times per week
Interests: • Dining out
• Movies/Videos
• Shopping/Antiques
• Travel/Sightseeing
• Video games
Education: Graduate degree
Occupation: Labor / Construction
Income: $50,001 to $75,000
Languages: • English
Politics: Middle of the Road
Sign: Don't display my sign
Pets I have: • Birds
• Cats
• Fish
Pets I like: • Exotic pets
• Horses
Again from Match.com - asked to go to Yahoo to chat after IMing me.
In the first chat, he says he is from somewhere other than his profile says he is!
First chat:
bryan smith (9:07 PM): hello
Removed (9:07 PM): Hi
bryan smith (9:07 PM): so let continoing here okay
Removed(9:07 PM): Okay
bryan smith (9:08 PM): dear how many childrean do you have
Removed (9:09 PM): I have one grown son and he has a Removed year old daughter
Removed (9:09 PM): How about you
bryan smith (9:09 PM): ohh okay
bryan smith (9:09 PM): that really good
bryan smith (9:09 PM): i have agrown dauther too my dear
Removed(9:10 PM): What made you decide to try Match?
bryan smith (9:11 PM): because i read thruogth your profile and you the type am looking foword to share the reast of mylife with
Removed(9:12 PM): We live so far away from each other.
bryan smith (9:12 PM): yes i know that
bryan smith (9:12 PM): but we can do it okay
Removed(9:13 PM): Well tell me a little about yourself
bryan smith (9:13 PM): ohh okay
bryan smith (9:13 PM): i will
Removed(9:13 PM): I haven't gotten a chance to even look at your profile, so I really don't know anything about you.
bryan smith (9:13 PM): 'm a single (divorced) man who is ready to find the woman that I can spend the rest of my life with, sharing a love like no other. I used to think of myself as a "Hopeless Romantic", but I've learned that I should see myself as a "Hopeful Romantic" because I truly believe that there is someone for everyone and I'm ready for "My Someone". I can say that I've been blessed enough to have loved before, but I don't understand the need that some have to be unfaithful, and honestly I refuse to "share" my mate. Therefore, I've moved on thru the healing process, and am ready to find someone that has the same moral values I do.HERE HE HAS CUT AND PASTED FROM HIS MATCH PROFILE
bryan smith (9:14 PM): ohh okay
Removed(9:14 PM): How long have you been divorced?
bryan smith (9:14 PM): so do yo want me to eamil you a picture of mine
Removed (9:14 PM): Sure, that would be great
bryan smith (9:14 PM): about a 8 years now
Removed (9:15 PM): I've been divorced for over 30 years!!!
bryan smith (9:15 PM): and iwll be happy if you will also email one of yours too
bryan smith (9:15 PM): ohh okay
Removed (9:15 PM): Okay
bryan smith (9:15 PM): ohh ise
bryan smith (9:16 PM): sarah iwll want ot tel you that am interested in you okayHERE HE GETS MY NAME WRONG!
Removed (9:16 PM): That's (Removed)
bryan smith (9:17 PM): okay thatnk you Removed
Removed(9:18 PM): To be honest, I'll have to find out more about you - - is that okay?
bryan smith (9:18 PM): oh okay my dear
bryan smith (9:19 PM): and wil be that you will like to know Removed
Removed (9:19 PM): Tell me something about you - - what do you do?
bryan smith (9:20 PM): am constractor
bryan smith (9:20 PM): and you
Removed(9:20 PM): A building contractor?
Removed (9:20 PM): What kind of buildings?
bryan smith (9:20 PM): abuild and road constractor
bryan smith (9:21 PM): international constractor
Removed(9:21 PM): I'm in broadcasting....
bryan smith (9:21 PM): oh okay that is rigth my deat
Removed (9:22 PM): Where are you now?
bryan smith (9:22 PM): am even working outside the contry my dear
Removed(9:22 PM): Where?
bryan smith (9:23 PM): Ghana
Removed (9:23 PM): Oh!
bryan smith (9:23 PM): my dear
Removed (9:23 PM): Are you from the U.S.?
bryan smith (9:23 PM): yes my dear am from the usa okay
Removed (9:24 PM): What state?
bryan smith (9:24 PM): kansas my dear HE SAYS IN HIS PROFILE HE'S FROM OHIO!
bryan smith (9:24 PM): and you
Removed(9:24 PM): I'm from Florida (I LIED --DIFFERENT STATE THAN MY PROFILE SAYS
bryan smith (9:25 PM): ohh isee that is good state
Removed (9:25 PM): How did you wind up in Ghana?
Removed (9:27 PM): One can't be too careful with this online stuff you know.
bryan smith (9:27 PM): OHH REALL Y
Removed (9:28 PM): Yeah, lots of romance scammers out there
bryan smith (9:28 PM): REALLY
bryan smith (9:28 PM): ohh okay i will more carefull okay my dear
Removed(9:29 PM): I've only been on Match for a couple of weeks and already been hit on by three of them
bryan smith (9:29 PM): really
bryan smith (9:29 PM): and dear how do you mange to that
Removed(9:30 PM): I don't know - - I guess I must fit some kind of profile they look for.
bryan smith (9:30 PM): ok okay
bryan smith (9:31 PM): so do you mean am the third man talking to you
Removed (9:31 PM): No, you are the fourth man who has talked to me.
bryan smith (9:32 PM): really sure
bryan smith (9:32 PM): so do want ot tell me that you have men your life already stella
Removed (9:33 PM): No I certainly don't...they were out to try to make me fall for them and then asked me for money
bryan smith (9:33 PM): ohh i see that '
bryan smith (9:34 PM): so how much are they telling you to give them my dear
Removed(9:35 PM): I really don't think the amount matters...I think what matters is that they were sleazy slime balls who tried to play with my affection to get money from me.
bryan smith (9:35 PM): never give up to them okay OH SO NOW HE'S MY HERO AND WANTS TO SAVE ME!
bryan smith (9:36 PM): can you give me thier names so that i can report them to the fbi HOW DUMB DOES HE THINK I AM
Removed(9:37 PM): I'm an intelligent, independent woman who raised her son as a single Mom since he was 14 months old...I'm also an investigative journalist who didn't just fall off a turnip truck! I've already reported them to authorities.
bryan smith (9:38 PM): ohh okay
bryan smith (9:38 PM): so they told you the are from Ghana
Removed(9:40 PM): No, one was from Washington but was in Ghana. One was from Washington but was in Nigeria. One was from Florida, but was in Iraq
bryan smith (9:40 PM): ohh isee
Removed (9:40 PM): Two were supposedly working overseas...one was supposedly in the Army.
bryan smith (9:41 PM): ohh isee
Removed (9:42 PM): Are you there?
bryan smith (9:42 PM): yes am here my dear
Removed (9:43 PM): So I guess you can see why I'm a little wary...
bryan smith (9:44 PM): yes my dear now ican say dont worry okay
bryan smith (9:44 PM): i would not keep long here oka
bryan smith (9:44 PM): i wil be back to the state soon
Removed(9:45 PM): Your job there will be over soon?
bryan smith (9:45 PM): no but will be break soon my dear
Removed (9:46 PM): Like a vacation of sorts?
bryan smith (9:46 PM): okay
Removed(9:47 PM): Why did you pick me to IM out of all the profiles on Match
bryan smith (9:49 PM): nothing baby you can see the IM is fast to connect to each other
Removed(9:49 PM): I just wondered what it was about me that made you want to talk with me
bryan smith (9:50 PM): yes that was the main reason i took you to the IM my dear
Removed (9:50 PM): But what was it on my profile that you liked?
bryan smith (9:53 PM): pardon? ?
Removed(9:53 PM): What made you pick me out of all the profiles on Match?
Removed (9:54 PM): Was it the way I looked? Was it what I said about myself? Was I the first profile that popped up?
bryan smith (9:54 PM): all beacuse you have a nice profile and you the type am looking and have been looking for
bryan smith (9:55 PM): yes my dear what you said about you dear nd it very intearesting okay
Removed (9:56 PM): Okay...
Removed(9:56 PM): Tell me something about where you live in Kansas?
bryan smith (9:57 PM): really
Removed (9:58 PM): Yes, I've never been there.
bryan smith (9:58 PM): ohh okay
bryan smith (9:58 PM): and do really like that sate my dear DUH!!!!
Removed (9:59 PM): I don't know I've never been there! What do you really like about it?
bryan smith (10:01 PM): Kansas won the award for most beautiful license plate for the wheat plate design issued in 1981.
Removed (10:01 PM): How interesting...what city do you live in?
bryan smith (10:02 PM): I have live in Dodge city but currently at bornner springs
Removed(10:03 PM): I don't understand
bryan smith (10:03 PM): am now living bonner springs
bryan smith (10:04 PM): but have lived in Dodge city
Removed(10:04 PM): I see... is it pretty there in Bonner Springs?
bryan smith (10:04 PM): yes my dear
bryan smith (10:05 PM): and how is florida
Removed (10:05 PM): It's beautiful if you like sea breezes...white sands and the sound of the ocean.
bryan smith (10:05 PM): ohh okay isee
Removed(10:06 PM): Tell me about your daughter...how old is she? Do you get to see her often?
bryan smith (10:07 PM): she is my 32year
bryan smith (10:08 PM): sometimes
Removed(10:08 PM): My son is Removed...he lives here so I get to see him quite often
bryan smith (10:08 PM): ohh okay
bryan smith (10:09 PM): so what work is you attending to my dear
Removed(10:10 PM): I am a fundraiser
bryan smith (10:11 PM): ohh okay my dear my love o hh isee and is interesting my dear
Removed(10:11 PM): Yes, it's been very interesting trying to raise money with the recent economic downturn the past two years
bryan smith (10:12 PM): ohh isee my
bryan smith (10:12 PM): dear
bryan smith (10:12 PM): so what says the time there my dear
Removed (10:12 PM): It's 10:12 p.m.
Removed(10:12 PM): How about there?
bryan smith (10:13 PM): 2:51 am here
Removed (10:13 PM): Wow = = you should probably get some sleep
bryan smith (10:14 PM): yes i know that but am here to find my soul mate okay
bryan smith (10:14 PM): so that is no problem my dear
Removed(10:15 PM): What made you decide to find someone right away?
bryan smith (10:15 PM): what? ? ? ?
Removed(10:16 PM): I mean what made you decide to try to find a soul mate after being alone for what was it you said - - 8 years?
bryan smith (10:17 PM): because i can now see that i cannot live alone
bryan smith (10:17 PM): and need some one to be by my side
Removed(10:18 PM): What type of person do you envision to be your soul mate? What would she be like?
bryan smith (10:22 PM): White / Caucasian my dear WHAT???
bryan smith (10:22 PM): and you
Removed(10:24 PM): I just don't understand how you think I could be your soul mate when we just met online...I mean do you want someone with an outgoing personality? Someone who believes in being real and not playing games? Someone who likes the same things you do?
Removed (10:25 PM): What is it in a woman that you are searching for besides being a white caucasian?
bryan smith (10:27 PM): white /caucasianDOUBLE DUH
bryan smith (10:27 PM): that what am loking for to
Removed (10:28 PM): Well if that's all you want in a woman, I really don't think I'm the one for you.
bryan smith (10:28 PM): no that not all my dear
bryan smith (10:30 PM): also a woman who is inteasted in
bryan smith (10:31 PM):
Alumni connections AGAIN PASTED FROM PROFILE!
Book club/Discussion
Business networking
Coffee and conversation
Cooking
Dining out
Exploring new areas
Gardening/Landsc aping
Hobbies and crafts
Movies/Videos
* Museums and art
Music and concerts
bryan smith (10:31 PM): and al so performing art play care
bryan smith (10:32 PM): are you there with me
Removed (10:34 PM): Yes I'm here. I don't know Bryan, you seem like a nice man, but unfortunately, I don't seem to have much of a connection to you. It's been really hard trying to find out anything about you...and I just really think perhaps you would find a better match for yourself with someone else on Match.
Removed (10:35 PM): I don't mean to hurt your feelings, but I'm an honest woman who is straightforward and will tell you what she thinks
bryan smith (10:35 PM): and why do you think so my dear
bryan smith (10:35 PM): ohh okay
bryan smith (10:35 PM): dont saythat
Removed (10:36 PM): I just really think we don't have a lot in common. Also the distance is a real problem for me.
bryan smith (10:36 PM): you just forget about the distance okay
bryan smith (10:36 PM): we have something is common okay
bryan smith (10:38 PM): so what do you think now
Removed (10:40 PM): How can I forget about the distance? I don't know...it's just seemed like work to try to establish some kind of common ground with you. I really don't know what to say to you
bryan smith (10:41 PM): you sound like you want to hurt my feelins
Removed(10:43 PM): I certainly don't want to do that!!!! I always try to treat everyone the way I would like to be treated....but I don't know what's important to you in your life....I 've been really trying to get sort of dialogue started but all I get is okay my dear and not much else. We seem to have a communication problem and I believe communication is very important for people who are trying to start some type of relationship. We've been chatting for over an hour and a half and I don't really feel I know much about you - - the real you.
bryan smith (10:45 PM): so do you want to know more about me
Removed (10:46 PM): Yes...
bryan smith (10:46 PM): this about me
bryan smith (10:46 PM): am bryan smith by name
Removed(10:46 PM): Okay
bryan smith (10:47 PM): 'm a single (divorced) man who is ready to find the woman that I can spend the rest of my life with, sharing a love like no other. I used to think of myself as a "Hopeless Romantic", but I've learned that I should see myself as a "Hopeful Romantic" because I truly believe that there is someone for everyone and I'm ready for "My Someone". I can say that I've been blessed enough to have loved before, but I don't understand the need that some have to be unfaithful, and honestly I refuse to "share" my mate. Therefore, I've moved on thru the healing process, and am ready to find someone that has the same moral values I do. AGAIN FROM PROFILE
bryan smith (10:47 PM): I live life treating others the way that I want to be treated and almost always see the glass as 1/2 full. I love animals & have dogs that are very spoiled and I'm not sure that they know they're not human. I know that life is short and I'm ready to live it to the fullest. I do thank GOD for every day given to me. I've been blessed with a fantastic family and have some wonderful friends.
bryan smith (10:47 PM): My friends would tell you that I'm tender hearted and there's nothing I wouldn't do for those that I care about. I don't like to see someone being mistreated and believe that we should always think about what we are gonna do or say, before we do or say it so that we don't cause pain to others. I know that there have been times when I've caused pain to someone else, but I didn't like the hurt they felt, and really try to think first so it doesn't happen again.
bryan smith (10:48 PM): this is some about me and can i knwo some about you too
Removed (10:51 PM): Well I've been divorced for a long time...raised my son on my own. I've had several relationships during that time where I was asked to marry them, but I didn't feel they would be a good Step Dad to my son, so I remained single. I've been really busy with my career for many years now and decided I would like to have a special someone out there that I could share my "Twilight Years" with. I am very involved in my community in many arts and civic organizations. I'm very rich in friends, but I would like someone to be there to talk to at the end of my day ....who would want to know more about what makes me tick and be there as a support through good times and bad
Removed(10:53 PM): I have two dogs and two outside cats. When I was a child, I had horses and did horse shows with them.
bryan smith (10:54 PM): i will make you tick and be there to support you through good and bad
bryan smith (10:55 PM): i really also have doggs and cat i really like horse but i dont have one
Removed (10:56 PM): Who takes care of your animals while you are gone?
bryan smith (10:57 PM): one of my friend son
bryan smith (10:59 PM): NAME REMOVED
Removed (10:59 PM): Yes I'm here
bryan smith (10:59 PM): what are you up to know
Removed(10:59 PM): What is important to you in a relationship?
bryan smith (11:00 PM): a long term of relationship for marraige
bryan smith (11:00 PM): and you
Removed (11:03 PM): Well there are lots of things. Communication being a main thing. Also I want someone who can be kind and caring....someone who would accept my family as his own, someone who can agree to disagree. A best friend, someone who makes me laugh because they are witty, someone who I can tease and flirt with.....some one who can be strong when I need them to be and sensitive when I need them to be.
Removed(11:03 PM): Someone who is not deceitful and will be honest and open about their feelings.
bryan smith (11:04 PM): I want someone who can be kind and caring....someon e who would accept my family as his own, someone who can agree to disagree. A best friend, someone who makes me laugh because they are witty, someone who I can tease and flirt with.....some one who can be strong when I need them to be and sensitive when I need them to be.
I want someone who can be kind and caring....someon e who would accept my family as his own, someone who can agree to disagree. A best friend, someone who makes me laugh because they are witty, someone who I can tease and flirt with.....some one who can be strong when I need them to be and sensitive when I need them to be.HERE HE PASTES WHAT I JUST SAID!!! DUH AGAIN!
so let continoing here okay : hello. is typing...
Removed (11:04 PM): Someone who cares more about what
Removed (11:05 PM): what is on the inside of a person than what they look like outside.
bryan smith (11:06 PM): me too dear am also looking for the woman who is caring and care more about me
Removed (11:06 PM): But all you did was copy and paste what I said I was looking for!
bryan smith (11:07 PM): i did not copy any thing NAME REMOVED
Removed (11:07 PM): You just copied my EXACT words and send them back to me!!!!
bryan smith (11:08 PM): ohh know i did not
Removed (11:08 PM): Look at your 11:04 p.m. transmission back to me - - it is exactly the same wording as I sent to you at 11:03 p.m.!
Removed (11:09 PM): here it is - -
I want someone who can be kind and caring....someone
who would accept my family as his own, someone who can agree to
disagree. A best friend, someone who makes me laugh because they are
witty, someone who I can tease and flirt with.....some one who can be
strong when I need them to be and sensitive when I need them to be.
I want someone who can be kind and caring....someon e
who would accept my family as his own, someone who can agree to
disagree. A best friend, someone who makes me laugh because they are
witty, someone who I can tease and flirt with.....some one who can be
strong when I need them to be and sensitive when I need them to be.
bryan smith (11:10 PM): sure may be i did not know okay
bryan smith (11:10 PM): ok well then NAME REMOVED
bryan smith (11:11 PM): what are your likes and dislikes
Removed(11:11 PM): Look Bryan...there are too many things here that aren't adding up...I really think it's best that you find someone else for your soul mate - - okay
bryan smith (11:11 PM): no NAME REMOVED
bryan smith (11:11 PM): you the only one that i found here
bryan smith (11:12 PM): and i have almost take the lead to delete my profile there
Removed(11:12 PM): I really am being honest with you and don't want to hurt your feelings. You really don't want me...there is someone out there who will be much better for you than I will.
Removed(11:12 PM): Don't delete your profile.
bryan smith (11:12 PM): you are the one
Removed(11:13 PM): I'm sorry Bryan, but I don't feel like you are the one for me.
bryan smith (11:13 PM): you are better than one you are asking to go and look for out there
Removed (11:13 PM): How do you know that if you don't look?
Removed (11:15 PM): I'm sorry if I have wasted your time. Like I said, you seem like a nice man, but I really don't think you are the one for me. It just happens, it's on one's fault.
Removed(11:15 PM): That's no one's fault
Removed(11:15 PM): We tried and it just didn't work out.
bryan smith (11:16 PM): yes but am also saying you are the right woman for me okay
bryan smith (11:16 PM): what did not work out sharon
Removed (11:17 PM): Okay, but if you're not the man for me it won't work out especially since you've gotten my name wrong TWICE tonight while we have been chatting. I'm not Sharon, I'm NAME REMOVED!!!! See what I mean?
bryan smith (11:17 PM): is typing mistake okay
bryan smith (11:17 PM): i know you NAME REMOVED
Removed (11:18 PM): How does NAME REMOVED become Sharon through a typing mistake?
Removed(11:18 PM): Are you talking with a Sharon as well?
bryan smith (11:19 PM): yes it my dauther
bryan smith (11:19 PM): am talking too
Removed(11:20 PM): Look, I have a problem with all of this. I'm sorry to have wasted your valuable time. I don't feel for you what you seem to feel for me. I'm sorry, I'm trying not to play games but be an honest person and let you know that I don't think there is any chemistry between us.
Removed(11:21 PM): I'm sure you'll find someone who is better for you than me.
bryan smith (11:21 PM): there is a chemistry between us
bryan smith (11:21 PM): why are saying all this thing NAME REMOVED
Removed(11:24 PM): Then what is it? I'm not feeling the chemistry on my side. A relationship has to come from both people. I'm just trying to be honest with you. I'm not feeling for you what you seem to feel for me. I'm not saying that to hurt your feelings...I'm just telling you the truth and want you to understand there is someone out there better for you. I don't know why you are so sure...so focused on me...that I'm the only one who would make you happy
bryan smith (11:25 PM): yes you get it and you know it that you are the only woman who will make me happy
Removed (11:26 PM): Well dear, I'm sorry, but I don't know that you are the only man who will make me happy.
Removed (11:27 PM): You don't even really know me yet...just as I really don't know you yet
bryan smith (11:28 PM): yes butwe will know each orther soon
Removed(11:28 PM): If you don't really know me how can you believe I'm the only one who will make you Happy right now?
bryan smith (11:28 PM): i know you
bryan smith (11:29 PM): but you arethe one saying you dont know me
Removed(11:29 PM): Well I don't
bryan smith (11:30 PM): ohh okay what ever you will say
Removed (11:31 PM): I've been burned before and I am somewhat guarded now when things don't seem right ....please, just know that I don't want to hurt you. I just want to be honest with you.
Removed (11:32 PM): So - - good luck in your search for your soul mate. I hope you will find the right one for you that can be your forever woman. I'm sorry I'm not up for the challenge. I only wish the best things for you
bryan smith (11:33 PM): ohh okay
Removed (11:34 PM): Bye for now and good luck...I hope you will do well in your search
bryan smith (11:34 PM): hope to tallk to you soon
Removed (11:34 PM): Good night - - get some rest
Now he won't leave me alone and keeps trying to chat and send me emails. Should I block or "bait" him to see if and when he asks for money?
