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by Shelby Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:50 pm
Hi all -
I am not a victim of a scam but know someone who is and I am not sure what to do - if anything. This guy I know - he's not a friend, he's an extended family member and no one I have any feelings for - is working for a company with a fake resume which includes completely false experience, a completely false degree and who knows what else. Example - he says he was working for a local company in a very high level, very technical position, when he was actually serving time in the State Pen - for felony fraud. This was his second conviction - he served 2 years in the state pen some years before on the same count. I am absolutely sure of this. He's working remotely and away from the corporate office so that may be how he's getting away with fooling his highly educated, very techically specific colleagues. Certainly they will figure this out at some point, but not before he has stolen from them (by getting paid to do work that he could not possibly do) and not before he has impacted their clients by either not delivering or delivering technical data that he literally made up. Do you all think I should tell this company? And how would I do it and protect myself? Or should I just consider it not my problem - I mean clearly this company did not do a background check before they hired him. Or maybe he's using a fake social security number - who knows. Bank fraud is his speciality. I am not interested in getting this guy in trouble - but I am interested in doing the right thing. Your advice and counsel is greatly appreciated!
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by GomerPyle Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:25 pm
Though you appear to be posng a moral dilemma, the truth is that you don't know enough specific details to make an accurate and specific accusation, and any accusation you make may appear spiteful and vexacious.

I believe that providing deceitful CV's is an offence, which is a foolhardy thing for an ex-felon to do, and even more foolish that an employer doesn't at least check his references. You're making too many assumptions to be able to make an accusation, indeed you could find yourself in trouble for doing so if it is not soundly based.

From what you say he'll be found out soon enough, but the consequences of making an accusation that is not deserved would be worse, especially for your relative.

Personally, I'd stay clear of the matter and remain silent, but others may have a different view, I appreciate.

Help others, but not if you may hurt yourself more in the process and crucially you have no certainty.

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by Shelby Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:10 pm
Thank you so much for your response and thoughts. I do actually know much more about this situation than I could post - there are not too many assumptions being made here. This individual has either scammed this employer OR he has hacked into their website and inserted himself as part of their management team. That would be the only thing in question here - which is it? You are right though, it is a moral dilemma, and probably one I should leave to the employer to discover. I do appreciate your comments and would still love to hear from others. Thank you all for your input.
by Gateway Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:21 pm
I am not interested in getting this guy in trouble - but I am interested in doing the right thing.


I am afraid you cannot do one without the other, if you do the right thing he will get in trouble, in this case as Gomer has suggested I would leave well enough alone.

When he is found out (and he will be) at least your conscience will be clear.

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by ChrisSmith Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:49 pm
Hi Shelby.
I should point out that this is not 419 fraud or the sort of fraud that we deal with here and therefore is not in our remit to give proper advice on. All we can give are personal opinions.

Me? I'd shop him. But like I said - that's a personal, not a professional opinion and is purely based on the fact that I have no time for fraudsters.

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