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by aleex88 Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:28 pm
I need your support friend. I hope you can help me deciding if this is a trust website or not:

www.btboffer.com


The contact person is called Harry Huang and he gives to me tracking numbers to spain, to show me that he sent a lot of parcels recently to spain to other people. He offer me a nice support, and he after I told him that I need trust and it's difficult to pay as a blind man he agree to fact that he'll send 1/4 package of the purchase when I pay him 1/4 total amount (this quarter is usd315), as a sample but a wholesale price. He agree to do this by this way but he asked me to promise that I'd pay the rest later to complete the order because if not they will lose money.


What do you think about?

Thanks so much for your help, and sorry my written english if it's so terrible ;)


Regards.
Alex.
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by Helen Halper Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:20 pm
Hi Alex!
I just took a quick look at the website and you are right to be suspicious of it. There are many misspelled words, Western Union is at the top of their list for payment options, the "contact us" email addresses are all from free email providers, and the website was only registered on 2010-08-31 and will expire 2011-08-31.
Please hold off on ordering anything until someone that has more knowledge of websites posts their opinion.

by Michael Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:59 pm
Hi Alex,

Helen is correct - this is certainly not a site you'd want to trust. There are several things with it that just don't check out, and I would never send money to them. If you do decide to purchase anything from them, there are two options:

1. You receive nothing, and lose the money.

2. You receive counterfeit material, and if the customs intercept the order you could get in serious trouble. They confiscate the ordered items, and you lose the money plus additional fines because you're 'importing counterfeit material'.

Always be very careful when purchasing electronics/clothes from a site in Asia: there are many, many fake sites and only very few real ones. It is always safer to buy the items in person, or on a site from a well-known store.

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by aleex88 Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:24 pm
Thanks for your post friends. This is what I thought about.
I'll wait for listen all you think about before make a decision ;)
by GomerPyle Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:20 pm
Try one of his many other websites

http://www.4523shop.com/index.html

http://walmoon.com/index.html

http://malsun.com/index.html

http://www.cheapaaa.com/index.html

You just follow the connecting phone numbers, and what's the chance that all these companies use the same phone ? - and why isn't the website in Chinese ?

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by aleex88 Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:38 pm
Wow. How can you find all of this website GomerPyle? You are so efficient! I think it's clear now! Thanks so much.

Time record, sure!



Note: where's the phone on btboffer.com? I saw that the other phones match but in that site I can't find it, GomerPyle.

I'll wait more answers =)
by GomerPyle Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:56 pm
No phone number (or street address) on the website ? Don't you think that's strange ?

I looked on the website registration :D

whois -h grs-whois.hichina.com btboffer.com ...
Domain Name ..................... btboffer.com
Name Server ..................... dns23.hichina.com
dns24.hichina.com
Registrant ID ................... hc313536859-cn
Registrant Name ................. chen tianfeng
Registrant Organization ......... chen tianfeng
Registrant Address .............. fu jian sheng pu tian shi hua lin gong ye qu
Registrant City ................. putian
Registrant Province/State ....... FJ
Registrant Postal Code .......... 351100
Registrant Country Code ......... CN
Registrant Phone Number ......... +86.05942636358 -


Note that the registrant is a private individual and not a company.

Google that phone number and the other sites appear.

Another search tool tells me

Reverse Whois:
"chen tianfeng" owns about73 other domains


and for good measure

Email Search: his e-mail is associated with about 98 domains


Need I say more ?

This is his too

http://www.hotsneakershop.com/

The actual number of sites he's built is probably in the hundreds, if not more.

Non-EU citizens should go here to find out about obtaining a visa to work as an au pair in the UK
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/doineedvisa/
Whenever payment is requested by Western Union you're dealing with a scammer
by aleex88 Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:58 am
WoOw..! you are like a hunting lion hehe
Thanks so much for your help friend. I'm gonna kick his ass :mrgreen:

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