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by kexkex Mon May 09, 2011 3:42 pm
My relatives have been exposed to something that I am 99 % sure is a scam, but there are some weird elements. Today my uncle called my parents to tell them that a woman was constantly calling him and informing him that my grandmother, who died 2009, had money in a bank in Hungary, and that they now had to reclaim it so that the bank did not freeze the account (we live in Sweden). My dad called the woman, and she claimed that she knew no details. She said that a wife of a friend of her, who is an insurance agent, had asked her to call since the wife only spoke Hungarian. Apparently the wife is an insurance agent and had received a bank book from the Swedish Embassy with my grandmother’s name, and now it was vital that the money was retrieved so they did not disappear. My father got no company name for the supposed insurance company and very little other information. So far it is a classic scam, but there are some things that unsettle me.

Firstly, my grandmother have lived in Hungary and had to leave property there. My grandmother claimed however, that the money was seized by the Hungarian government when she was unable to retrieve it. Secondly, as I said my father called the woman who contacted my uncle and she had names and information about my grandmother, my parents and my uncles. Nothing you couldn't get a hold of from public sources fairly easy, but it unsettles me that they have actually gone to so much trouble. Moreover, the woman who called us actually lives in Sweden and is registered in the phonebook.

I do not like that the scammers have so much information about us or that the seemed to go to so much trouble for this scam. Has anyone heard of something like this before?
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by Sagely Mon May 09, 2011 4:13 pm
Hello

Thankyou for flagging up something that probably looks like a scam..I am though still fairly new to the "baiting/identification" part to this. So I will defer on commenting on the story.

Having said that it is good that you are being pro-cative and suspect there is something wrong. I`m not sure how old you are,but is there a way you can get every body to stop and do nothing, untill this gets looked at further?

Whilst everyone is susceptible to scams, the older members of scociety are particularly vulnerable.

Well spotted and another lesson for us all. A more experienced member will comment soon.

Sagely

And remeber to talk about it, when you have finished talking, talk about it a bit more.
by Justin Mon May 09, 2011 4:36 pm
Hello kexkex!

This sounds fishy to me as well. I would start off with demanding a company name and contact information you could research. Any legitimate company would be happy to provide this. If they are unwilling I would be very suspicious. I would sugest demanding this information and refuse to give any additional personnel information until it is provided. I would think if something like this was legit you would receive a letter not a phone call and the person would introduce themselves properly including which company they were representing.
Justin

by kexkex Mon May 09, 2011 5:20 pm
Hey!
Thanks for your replies!

I absolutely agree. The thought that no one in the entire insurance company is able to write a letter about this money seems extremely implausible. And that the insurance agent did not go through official channels, but contacted a friend in Sweden seems bizarre. I am actually considering if this maybe a variation of a translations scam. The woman who contacted my uncle told him that she was an interpreter and could help with the translation of the documents (they wanted an estate inventory and a death certificate translated to Hungarian). She did not say that to my father though, I think she got nervous when he started to ask questions. There have been no pitch for money, but I suppose it will come soon.

I am not really worried that my parents will give away money; they are also suspicious and we agreed not to give these people anything at all. No money, no bank account information, nada! What I am worried about is that my father promised to call the woman back on Thursday (she said that she would supply us with the relevant information then) and I really don’t want him to have any contact with scammers. I understand that he is curious, but I also know that scammers can be dangerous and they have our names and addresses already apparently. That is the part that really creeps me out. That and that this woman actually lives in the same country as us.

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